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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:30 PM
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***Photo Of Mugged McCain Supporter***
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:31 PM
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1. I think we all know who the culprit is here.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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143. Curse you, Internet Hate Machine! n/t
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:53 PM
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193. Her twitter stream says it all
This bigot was attempting to find a sympathy way to get off a driving offence, which was her Republican God Given Right to commit.

I am so glad somebody captured this.

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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:31 PM
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2. Clearly self-inflicted
Or not.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:30 AM
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197. college pug who thinks she's smarter than everyone else. I;ve
seen some of her pictures. she's vile.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:32 PM
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3. is that a backward B?
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:32 PM
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4. The B is backwards? Did she do it while looking in a mirror?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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8. And upside down. So yeah, definitely a mentally-disturbed fame-whore, oh, pardon my French.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:45 PM
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62. Go easy on her
It must hurt the brain to have taht red a neck.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:34 PM
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15. not the first time


In 1984 Robert Downey staged an attack on himself ---- but he drew the swastika on backwards because he was using a mirror

The 'victim' made the same mistake

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2008/10/mccain-staffer-claims-b-was-carved-into.html




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton_Downey_Jr.

In 1989, as fascination with Downey's TV show began to wane, he was involved in an incident in a San Francisco International Airport restroom in which he claimed to have been attacked by neo-Nazis who painted a swastika on his face and attempted to shave his head. Some inconsistencies in Downey's account (e.g., the swastika was painted in reverse, suggesting that Downey had drawn it himself in a mirror), and the failure of the police to find supportive evidence, led many to suspect that the incident was a hoax and a plea for attention.

later, during an appearance on The Howard Stern Show, Downey admitted that he had orchestrated the entire "attack" -- even shaving the front of his own head in the desperate effort to save his show from cancellation
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:37 PM
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25. Morton Downey, Jr.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:59 PM
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209. oh yeah.. forgot about that asshole. MORTON, not Robert...
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:32 PM
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5. Why is the B backwards?
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Birthday Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:47 PM
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68. I think the photo is reversed
if you take the picture by means of the computer. That's really terrible.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:47 PM
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71. No, taking a pic via computer doesn't reverse it. n/t
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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104. It's not reversed:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:02 PM
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140. I just did a test with an eyeliner and my Macbook. No way it'd be reversed in a pic
or even in the mirror it wouldn't be reversed like that. When I went to do the B on my face, my first instinct was to do it backwards.. I had to force myself to do it correctly.

I just find it so odd that a man would be able to make a most perfect B like that.. backwards.. on the face of someone in public AFTER robbing her.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM
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111. The B is upside-down, not backwards
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM by slackmaster
:D

Use your imagination.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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144. My guess is that she used hers. n/t
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:01 PM
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137. Good question!
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 05:02 PM by mhatrw
Does that "B" look like something an angry, vicious 6'4" mugger carved on someone's face last night with a knife?

How did the mugger happen to notice the McCain sticker on her car? How did the mugger get her to remain still long enough to pencil carve a nice curved "B" into her face? Why did the woman refuse treatment? Where are the other witnesses? Where is the police artist sketch of the at large suspect? Shouldn't the focus be on bringing this dangerous man to justice rather than spreading the news around nationally about the bizarre McCain/Obama angle of this alleged assault?

It turns out the woman is a McCain volunteer, and this sounds exactly like the product of the imagination of a McCain volunteer.

She probably got mugged and roughed up. I feel very sad for her. But she added the "B" and made up the part about the McCain bumpersticker enraging her assailant, perhaps because she associated the mugger with the man she is trying to keep out of the White House.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:32 PM
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6. I'm sorry she was attacked but why is the "B" backwards?
Does that have some significance? Or did she do it herself?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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she could've been on the ground looking up, and the mugger could've
scratched that B from where he was, if he was above her.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:36 PM
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23. But wouldn't it have to be on the other side for that?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:38 PM
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32. think about it. She'd be lying down, looking up at him
and he'd be standing with his feet pointed towards her head, and most people are right-handed, so he could've bent down and scratched that onto her cheek.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:40 PM
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40. You're Being Very Generous
She would have had to have been remaining quite still while that was happening.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:45 PM
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63. And she just stood still for him to make a perfect B on her face?
I mean being scared alone, would have you moving
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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96. That's how I would say it was done, assuming it's genuine
She was on the ground, the assailant was above her, if he's right handed he held her down by putting his left hand on her left cheek and drew the B with his right hand on her right cheek.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:57 PM
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127. Very gently, so as not to break the skin, because he was ANGRY about her bumpersticker.
Uh-huh.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:07 PM
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157. Yep. I'm convinced.
:P
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:07 PM
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181. But the little part of the B is on top, right?
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 06:38 PM by BullGooseLoony
Isn't that how people make capital B's (look at the subject line font)? Little loop on top, bigger one on bottom.


No, this is a backwards B, not an upside down B.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:40 PM
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42. And if this was the case, would the "victim" not have been flailing her body around trying to free
herself from the grip and the knife against her face? If she had been flailing, how then, did the "mugger" create such a perfectly symetrical "B" without the knife leaving extending cuts beyond normal strokes needed to create a perfect "B?" This story is such BS. My guess is that this woman may have been attacked, but that after, she went to her car, looked in the rearview mirror, stenciled a "B" onto her cheek and waited for the cops to arrive. The other scenario is that she gave herself black eyes, "carved" the "B" into her skin in a mirror, and then went to the ATM.

A good investigator would have the truth from this story after about five mins. This woman is full of hot, steaming BS.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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82. Why don't all rape victims fight?
Why do some just lie there?

This woman might be a kook who did this to herself.

She might be hiding the person who really abused her.

Or maybe she really was mugged, but I'm not going to question why she didn't fight. Fear does crazy things to people...Or haven't we noticed that the last eight years? :(
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:50 PM
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Not a good analogy. People tend to protect their faces reflexively.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:51 PM by Shakespeare
And protecting your face isn't the same as fighting back--that's why stabbing victims often have defensive wounds.

There's something not quite right about this story.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:55 PM
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118. sadly, I had thought of someone trying to hide who really punched her...
as in a domestic abuse incident. Sad to have to think that way.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:44 PM
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59. Um, no. The mugger who have had to have been dyslexic in any case.
Or maybe he was looking into the ATM mirror when he did it.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM
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110. then it would still be backwards... if you're looking down at someone it won't be reversed.
It's too perfect to be hastily scratched into someone's face with a knife...
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:30 AM
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202. Ambidextrous mugger - very unusual
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 04:31 AM by mtnester
hit her with his right hand

carved her backward with his left

:sarcasm:


on edit - false start on the other cheek too, almost directly below the "black" eye with no swelling at all
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:34 PM
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13. "He" could have been standing over her above her head
if it's not self-inflicted.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:37 PM
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27. and she must have stayed perfectly still while that was done to her, it's a pretty clean
lined backward b.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:14 PM
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169. Just as devil's advocate
He was a rather large guy (allegedly). IF he could have pinned her hands to her chest with his left hand with much of his weight behind that, put one knee on either side of her head, he could have pulled it off.

Yeah, way out there, but again...devil's advocate.

I don't think it happened, that's why I said "if".
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:38 PM
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30. And she lay there patiently while he did it.
She didn't try to cover her face defensively? Not buying it.

(and yes, I realize you're just playing devil's advocate here. :hi: )
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM
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37. yeah, but I'm saying if it was me, I'd lie still
and I'd worry about moving, and that I might be attacked even further if I lashed out or covered my face. I don't know---this story is just way too fishy.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:13 PM
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167. but you would instinctively flinch.. and there would EXTRA cuts.. imho. n/t
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:42 PM
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49. It's backwards because she did it to herself looking in the mirror.
I just did a little experiment with a mirror, piece of paper and sharpie. I held up the paper to my face and drew a B while looking in the mirror. When I turned and looked at the paper, the B was backwards.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:11 AM
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200. LOL i had the same idea. I was pretty sure it would be backwards, but I had to
make certain. It was backwards.
If she drew it on herself in the mirror, and didn't show it to anyone else, she would never realize it was backwards to the rest of the world :D How embarrassing. I'd feel bad if this wasn't an malicious attempt to hurt our candidate.
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:45 PM
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177. wasn't that one of the things Tawana Brawley did
that made her story suspicious? Oh wait, this one is a white girl...
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:32 PM
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7. Would there happen to be a link to that?
This thing stinks to high heaven.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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109. This is what I'm asking! Where is the smoking gun during all this? n/t
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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9. Dyslexic Mugger, Obviously
This might be the swiftest STUNT COLLAPSE in history.
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sarahdemva Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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10. ummm, its carved backwards
as if she did it herself
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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11. Wow, that mugger must have been VERY illiterate
Because that B looks backwards to me.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:33 PM
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12. Take your finger and write a B on your cheek .. you naturally place the stem
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:35 PM by Ichingcarpenter
of the B on the area closest to the nose and the circles towards the outside of the cheek

SELF INFLICTED WITH HER OWN FINGER NAIL
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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:51 PM
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92. I just tried that and I get the vertical part close to my ear and the circles toward my nose
same for either right or left hand...unless I use left hand to write on right cheek and vice-versa.
Close your eyes and trace a B on your desk...or on the wall. You will always draw it the right way!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:55 PM
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116. Bullshit.... you have to consciously write it backwards

But thanks for playing!





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plaintiff Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:41 PM
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191. The way I described, it gets written "frontwards"
But thank you for the kind and courteous comment!
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:22 PM
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211. trolling
is better in dumber waters....
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:34 PM
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14. That is just pathetic.
I think Barack should call her and tell her he uses a forwards B.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:34 PM
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16. How do you get a black eye that isn't swollen.
Shouldn't it be swollen shut?
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SeeHopeWin Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:34 PM
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17. Can she speak? she can tell the world what was aid and done, no?
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:35 PM
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18. When did this happen?
It doesn't look like much of a "carve." Is it healed over from several weeks ago?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM
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36. Nope. I've gotten worse scratches than that from baby's fingernails. n/t
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:47 PM
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69. McCain, when did YOU join DU?
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:50 PM
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89. Well, since we don't know if it's false, how about not using that language
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:35 PM
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20. WHY THE "B" WRITTEN BACKWARDS?!?
Gee, it's almost as though someone was doing this while looking in a mirror...


And I'd bet anything that those are pin scratches, rather than knifemarks.


Also, that mugger must have TINY hands. A big fist leaves a much bigger bruise, not a neat little circle just below the eye.


Something about this story smells really fishy.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:36 PM
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21. I was expecting to see gouged flesh and blood. They call that "carved"??
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:36 PM by sparosnare
It's scratched (superficial) and is that's supposed to be a black eye? It's just black make-up. There is no swelling or rednesss indicative of trauma.

What a joke.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:37 PM
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26. you can see the top spot of her left eye has a yellow bruise
where her upper eyelid is. The punches are real, but the B is in question.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM
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38. Wonder if the bruise happened earlier than the alleged robbery.
A smart cop would interview her (perhaps abusive) boyfriend or spouse. Just to be thorough.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:41 PM
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46. That yellow could be make-up too.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:43 PM by sparosnare
How long ago did this happen??

On edit....it happened last night. There is no way in hell if someone punched her last night her eye would look like that. It would be swollen, red and the bruise would be purple.

LOL.
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GirlieQ Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:25 PM
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187. The 'yellow' on her left and right eyes match...
Some women, like my best friend, have eyelids that are a bit yellowish. This girl actually looks like a dumb, plump version of my friend so I didn't think anything of the yellow and only noticed the black.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:37 PM
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28. Seriously, "carved" is flesh piercing.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:47 PM
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72. there is NO laceration... never was - NT
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:36 PM
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22. The B is also too round to have been done quickly
as it most likely would have been done in an attack.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM
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35. Agreed. It seems very difficult to do in a fast attack on a wriggling captor on
a street that must still have some traffic and pedestrians on it.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:36 PM
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24. Is the B backwards or does that flip in a photograph
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:38 PM
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29. Photo is flipped or she took a pic of her reflection in the mirror
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:28 PM
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174. This is what she'll say. n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:38 PM
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31. Hold a mirror up to it. :)
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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145. No.. I just tested that and the B did not reverse in the photo. n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:38 PM
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33. Knife Cut, Definitely and no Doubt, This is a Knive Cut, not a Fingernail!!!!
:rofl:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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80. oh god.. I thought you were serious.. til I saw your emoticon. n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:07 PM
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180. Nothing say's "sarcasm" like Rolling On the Floor Laughing!
:hi:
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:39 PM
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34. This is a serious crock of shit
We need to look in to who put her up to this.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:40 PM
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39. Did he use a butter knife?
And how was he able to do a perfectly backwards b? Did she just sit there and let him?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:40 PM
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:41 PM
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43. I'm sorry. Let me guess. Are you this young lady???
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:41 PM
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45. and if she's lying that's ok?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:46 PM
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:56 PM
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Why don't you go ahead and post the proof.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:59 PM by votesomemore
It has to be PROVED, not disproved.

OH WAIT! She reported it to a RW hate site, not law officials. So, we should take her word.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:41 PM
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47. You can shove your opinion. I'll speculate as much as I damn well please.
Nice first post, btw.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:42 PM
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50. Up yours. nt
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:43 PM
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52. You people? Drop what? Drop trying to figure out what happened when there are claims that this
is somehow politically motivated? Huh?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:44 PM
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57. Oh, WAAAAHHH.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:45 PM
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60. thank you except these tricks have been done before
all of these reports of black guys attacking in an incindiary situation.



She is a 'Texas' volunteer in PA who gets attacked off camera. Then the attacker notices her bumper sticker and kicks, hits and carves a letter on her face but she refuses medical treatment. again all off camera.

Muggers don't hang around making political commentary on the basis of a bumper sticker they get their money and run.






In 1984 Robert Downey staged an attack on himself ---- but he drew the swastika on backwards because he was using a mirror

The 'victim' made the same mistake

http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2008/10/mccain-staffer-claims-b-was-carved-into.html




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton_Downey_Jr.

In 1989, as fascination with Downey's TV show began to wane, he was involved in an incident in a San Francisco International Airport restroom in which he claimed to have been attacked by neo-Nazis who painted a swastika on his face and attempted to shave his head. Some inconsistencies in Downey's account (e.g., the swastika was painted in reverse, suggesting that Downey had drawn it himself in a mirror), and the failure of the police to find supportive evidence, led many to suspect that the incident was a hoax and a plea for attention.

later, during an appearance on The Howard Stern Show, Downey admitted that he had orchestrated the entire "attack" -- even shaving the front of his own head in the desperate effort to save his show from cancellation
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:48 PM
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:29 PM
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175. that photo is scant evidence at best and would be considered fake evidence by anyone
The black eye is makeup. First of all, the B on her face is fresh and the 'black eye' isn't. There is no way she would not have some sort of swelling, or some busted blood vessels in her eye. If some man hit her on the inside of the eye her nose would be swollen too, if not broken.

I've had black eyes from an abusive husband (ex husband), I've never seen a real bruise or black eye that looked like smudged eyeshadow and that didn't have some swelling.

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:46 PM
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67. The story doesn't add up
It's that simple.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:47 PM
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While I'm sure you're a troll, I agree with you for the most part
And, uh, welcome to DU! :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:50 PM
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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100. Ok, I believe you. Welcome to DU.
Try not to use the word "thug" though. Has kind of a bad tinge to it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:48 PM
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73. I know STUNT when I see one. Plus, what is that smell?
Why it is pizza!
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:48 PM
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77. The facts, huh?
Ok, here's some facts for you:
The only places reporting this are a) local news media, b) Drudge, c) MSNBC and probably d) FOX (I wouldn't know, I don't watch it).

CNN hasn't even touched this story.
Nor has other national print media.

That couldn't be because they're skeptical of it and won't run with it until it can be verified by multiple sources, would it?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:11 PM
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163. You give yourself away with this post. eom
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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78. thanks for your concern and helping so very much
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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83. LOL....
enjoy your brief stay....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:55 PM
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:00 PM
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135. No, you're about as clear as a piece of glass though...
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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84. Ummm...how many 'independents' do you think hang out here?
Some of these questions are legitimate and will be thought of by more mature people than us. Don't you think the POLICE will be asking the same things we are?? Of course they will. The whole story stinks to high heaven.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:51 PM
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91. No ONE thinks the Campaign did it.. but we've seen our share of self-inflicted political injuries.
Good the name Phil Parlock if you'd like...

I'm sorry.. but that B is not done with a KNIFE and is TOO PERFECT for someone lying on the ground struggling with someone. Sorry if we call BULLSHIT on this...

I'm sorry that she got punched... but her story is so far fetched.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:58 PM
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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103. Your concern is duly noted. Domino's anyone? n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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105. Two words.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM by votesomemore
Plastic turkey.

These people's hero, Bush, sets the standard. Fake is an outrage, but not beneath freepers.

You're not going to like it here very much if you are intent on defending repukes.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:59 PM
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131. Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:01 PM
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136. Oh please do get off your high horse before you fall off
and get hurt.



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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:41 PM
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44. If this is true, I'm sorry for the random violence perpetrated against her that has nothing to do...
with this election. It's screaming "fake" to me, but it doesn't really matter anyway. One violent, unhinged, freak, whether he scratched a backwards B into her face or not, does not bear any relation to anything.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:42 PM
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48. teh mark of eth stupid


The backwards "B"

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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:42 PM
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51. So the first thing she thinks of after being mugged
and beaten is go home and get her picture on a Conservative web site. Where are the police photos?
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:06 PM
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OMG, this story is so preposterous. MSNBC should be canned for covering this bs.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:43 PM
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53. Why a "B" and not an "O" for Obama?
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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147. that is what I was thinking - if it was politically motivated,
wouldn't an "O" be easier?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:12 PM
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165. an "O" would have been a whole lot easier.
Welcome to DU :hi:

Discussing the possibilities does not mean that, should this prove true, we agree with the assault.

It's just that "B" seems wrong for a political message (and not a personal branding like "bitch") and the skin isn't cut like an angry knife weilding assailtant would cut the face and the "B" is backwards and she didn't want medical care.

It's just so odd.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:06 PM
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153. Yeah, I just asked that too....
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:54 PM
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194. Maybe it's a "B" for Biden
:eyes:

This story stinks....
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:43 PM
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54. I don't think that's a real black eye.
I've had a dozen or so and that one is way too monochrome.....

No purple....no swelling....
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:45 PM
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61. I've never seen one quite like that, but they do vary.
I have my doubts about the black eye. I don't have any doubts about the B.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM
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Yeah, me neither...looks like eyeshadow....
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM by 1corona4u
I've never seen a black eye that didn't have swelling, purple/yellow bruises, and even red in the eye itself...

Here are some real black eyes;








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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:05 PM
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152. You sure know a lot of people with black eyes.....
:rofl:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:07 PM
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159. LOL....got them off the net...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:44 PM
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56. A backward B. What would it look like in a mirror?
A forward B maybe?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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81. Her B is on her right cheek... take your finger and write a B on your right cheek
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM by Ichingcarpenter
Without looking at a mirror. You write the stem of the B closest to your nose and the half circles towards
your ear, but that would be backwards just like the photograph showed.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:44 PM
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58. If she refused medical treatment

Then this is not a story. A medical analysis could ascertain the severity of these injuries. She refused. A medical analysis could possibly find DNA material off the perp, whether it be hair or skin cells. A medical analysis would give this women credibility in being mugged.

So let me get this straight...get mugged, have a B scratched into your face, refuse to have medical personnel determine the extent of so-called injuries...make it political.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:45 PM
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64. Something smells fishy about her story ....
Not sure what it is yet .... but something isn't right about what she's saying happened.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:46 PM
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66. And the B is backwards....
looks like a freeper did it....:rofl:
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traveller Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:47 PM
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70. I am sorry for this young woman.
The story is sketchy right now but something happened.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:55 PM
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115. Me too - She is obviously in pain and has suffered some kind of trauma
:argh:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:48 PM
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74. Hardly looks that serious anyway.
If it were real, and the attacker wanted to actually leave a mark, wouldn't he have actually broken the skin? Looks to me like somebody was very careful not to scratch too deeply.

Bake
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traveller Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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79. well, let it happen to you and then post again about your thoughts on it.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:50 PM
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88. Since she did it to herself, why any sympathy?
Other than she needs psychiatric care.
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traveller Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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102. you do NOT know that.
at this point.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM
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112. Yes, I do.
I know fraud when i see it and this is a fraud.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:54 PM
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114. Seriously, I've been scratched in the face by a large dog
And I have the scar to show for it. This doesn't look anywhere near as bad as that. And that is suspicious. A mugger wouldn't be as careful not to break the skin, just like my dog wasn't careful when she scratched me (and THAT was an accident!).

I just think this looks awfully suspicious. As in "set up."

Bake
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:48 PM
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75. Also, it's on the right side of her face -- which is a bit odd if someone else did it...
90% of the population is righthanded, and a righthanded person would naturally tend to mark the LEFT side of another person's face. But a righthanded person would naturally tend to mark the RIGHT side of their own face.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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97. Unless he did it upside-down relative to her face
For example, she was lying on her back and he did the carving while looking down at her face, upside-down relative to it.

That would explain the reversed "B" as well as which hand did the carving - Upside-down looks the same as mirror image.

:-)
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:04 PM
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179. then why the vertical hesitation marks next to the downstroke of the B...
Besides: if someone had pressed the left side of her face to the sidewalk while scratching a letter onto the right side of her face, then the B should be closer to her right ear, and the downstroke should slant in the opposite direction to what the photo shows -- since we're imagining how a righthanded assailant could have done this.

However, if someone had pressed the back of her head to the ground, then you'd expect horizontal marks from her flinching toward the left, away from the knife. It's very hard to hold a person's head completely still in that position -- especially with just one hand.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:14 PM
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184. NICE- boom, you got it.
That is a DOWNSTROKE, toward her chin. Not an upstroke toward her forehead.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:49 PM
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85. Where's the swelling around her eye? Hmmm...
And the cut is not red or bright enough... guess it depends on when it supposedly happened!
Somethings fishy about this photo! The B is definately all wrong too!
CR
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:50 PM
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86. Nice black eye, too
She's going to have a raccoon face in 24 hours.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:31 PM
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190. As opposed to
lipstick on a pig? (The story, not the person.) (Although, maybe the person.) (Sigh. Don't know.)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:51 PM
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90. Where did you get the pic? n/t
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:51 PM
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93. She has a page on "Twitter"
whatever that is:

http://twitter.com/atodd

Got this from Free Republic,I think some of them are starting to feel a little uneasy about this story.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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It seems she had a blackberry on her
and immediately twitstreamed her mugging, but the mugger wated $60 not the blackberry?

Smelly.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:08 PM
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161. she TWITTERED her mugging?? Okay.. that's just fucked up.
You would think you'd have other things on your mind.. .not OMG! I got mugged! on your twitter... Yeah, guess the guy already had a blackberry.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:24 PM
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173. Damn she has just protected her twitter stream
It was recorded on twitter she was looking for ways of getting off a driving offence.

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Thorandmjolnir Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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94. this is supposedly a link to her blog
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM by Bjarne Riis
When did this happen? Because she has entries on her blog for today. No mention of a mugging.

*

atodd: Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers- I'm phonebanking so let's all work together and get John McCain elected #litf08
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:55:41 +0000
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atodd: Oh the blog I will be making soon... Its been a rough night #litf08
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:52:58 +0000
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atodd: Pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of pittsburgh
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:45:59 +0000
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atodd: Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees.
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atodd: This traffic in pittsburgh needs to go away!!!! #litf08
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:59 PM
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130. Blog entries are WEIRD - why is she calling attention to the fact that she is searching for an ATM?
This looks TOTALLY set up to me -- BLOGGING that she is looking for an ATM (I mean, who does that, you just look for an ATM, you don't post blog entries about it like you are trying to establish a timeline), then mentioning that she is looking for an ATM on the wrong side of Pittsburgh, which is an obvious and total give-away that the rest of her story is FAKE. She was using the blog to set up a timeline and to attempt to make herself credible ("see? I said on my blog that I was out looking for a specific sort of ATM on the wrong side of town!")
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:02 PM
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139. Staging it.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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141. That's the most suspicious part, imo.
Being from out of state, she probably did have to look for an ATM machine, but who blogs about that?

If this is true, this poor girl leads a VERY boring life if that's all she has to blog about!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:04 PM
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150. There are ATMs everyone, and this neat feature online where you can find one.. n/t
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:07 PM
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182. Who walks around an unfamiliar city just *hoping* to run into a particular bank?
This is a truly bizarre story.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #94
176. I hope the police investigate this. Wow. She goes to the ATM gets mugged and whines about traffic
no mention about being brutally attacked by Zoro?
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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95. This story is 100% Hoax! Dems should just ignore this.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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101. How do you know?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:07 PM
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160. Because it is absolutely as phony as it gets.
Anyone buying it is gullible. I'm sorry.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #160
168. Is, is, is, is is, and is
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 05:16 PM by slackmaster
Sounds like a world of isness.

I recommend extreme caution in making conclusions about this story.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:23 PM
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172. Nope. It's a fake. It's obviously a fake.
No different than calling the sky blue on a sunny day. Recommending extreme caution in making such a conclusion is like recommending caution in making a conclusion that McCain would be wrong for this country. I'm not a bit nervous in making either conclusion. It is an obvious, bad makeup job. The B is backwards, for goodness sake. It was done in the mirror. No need to be cautious here.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:52 PM
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98. One news report said she was from Texas. Who does she work for? DeLay? Baker? n/t
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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106. Am I the only person who sees a "B" AND and "S" ?
Or am i the only person who sees this BS?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #106
120. B is for BINGO!!
NGU.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:53 PM
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107. ok i flipped the pic, it's a b.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:56 PM
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124. Maybe the B stands for bitch.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:57 PM
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125. it might.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #107
126. look at her photo here
http://lifeinthefield.com/users/ashley-todd

And then look at the part in her hair. The photo you just flipped isn't how she takes photos of herself and parts her hair.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #126
142. BINGO!!!!

The pattern of her own behavior presses the evidence to the obvious
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #107
132. What does that mean neccessarily? If she did it herself in the mirror, this is what it would look li
like. On the contrary if a third party did it, then the B would be upside down. Why would she submit a reverse image to a blog?
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:55 PM
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117. what's "carved" next to the "B"?
upside down it looks like "BS."
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:56 PM
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121. Police confirm the picture is not flipped (The B really is backwards)
http://kdka.com/politics/McCain.Campaign.Worker.2.847449.html

"According to the police report, the officer confirmed that he 'observed the wound on the right side of face.'"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #121
151. Oopsie.
I guess it's pretty obvious then.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #121
155. So the "attacker" did the B backwards... and so perfectly. I got an "f" in penmanship. n/t
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #121
178. ATM survellance video!
They can check the film. Unless the FBI swoops in to confiscate.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:09 PM
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183. It happened conveniently out of range of the camera.
Imagine that. :sarcasm:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:56 PM
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122. Charles Manson did some dyslexic carving, too
:rofl:
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #122
138. I wish you people would not condemn dyslexics,
we surely are not all like Charles Manson. I'm a graduate of Penn State, or was that State Pen?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:06 PM
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156. yrros
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:56 PM
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123. I'm calling this one BULLSHIT!!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 04:57 PM
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128. B is for Bush? B is for Bastard Boyfriend?
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:00 PM
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133. They shouldn't be hard to track down. How many left-handed, dyslexic muggers do YOU know? n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:03 PM
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146. .
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 05:10 PM by Bluebear
.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:04 PM
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148. website has pulled the picture can you save it from the photobucket before its gone?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:04 PM
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149. here's the stupid thing...why a B...not an 'O'.....
if it was about Obama, then a B would be stoopid.....since he is known as Obama....who say's Barack...not very many people....
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:06 PM
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154. She's kind of dumb on a couple of levels with this hoax
imho.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:07 PM
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158. No swelling, no redness in the eyes, the bullshit "B"
Sorry, the whole thing looks like a hoax to me, and I'm not usually inclined to say that.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #158
166. I wonder if the bank actually has a transaction for her at that time...
if she's a repub, maybe she didn't think that far in advance...
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:10 PM
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162. Marking.
She etched that letter on her face herself. I'll bet her arms are covered with similar "marking." The eye is mascara.

This girl needs a swift kick in the rear followed by counseling. She's obviously crying out for it.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:12 PM
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164. Sounds like she traveled to PA to work for McCain, mentions "phone banking"
and her blog entries talk about "being on the WRONG side of town" , and "stubbornly looking for a BofA ATM to avoid the fees", setting up her mugging.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:15 PM
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170. She can be a victim for Halloween
I think she's full of shit also.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:17 PM
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171. She has a smirky psycho look that shows through on that pic.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:21 PM
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186. I'm thinking EVANGELICAL ~ BIBLE THUMPER ~ Who went to JESUS CAMP as a child.
These people are the most dangerous because they're brainwashed and only see things as good or evil based on thier own value system.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 06:25 AM
Response to Reply #171
204. Yes, she does! I thought I was alone in seeing that hint of glee.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:21 PM
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185. From The Smoking Gun:
Joe The Mugger?
Pre-attack, McCain volunteer blogged from "wrong side of Pittsburgh"

OCTOBER 23--Shortly before a John McCain campaign volunteer was reportedly robbed at knifepoint and had a "B" carved in her face after her assailant noticed that her car carried a McCain bumper sticker, the woman blogged last night that she was "Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees" and had somehow ended up "on the wrong side of Pittsburgh." Ashley Todd, a 20-year-old Texas college student, told cops that she was robbed of $60 by a 6' 4" black man who weighed about 200 pounds. Todd claimed that when her assailant noticed the McCain sticker on her vehicle, he punched her in the head and carved the letter on her right cheek (a battered Todd can be seen at right). Shortly before the reported 9pm attack, Todd updated her Twitter page with a post noting that she was, "Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees." Soon after she reported, "Pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of Pittsburgh." Three hours after that update, Todd wrote, "Oh the blog I will be making soon...Its been a rough night." A screen grab of Todd's Twitter page--which was linked from her page on a College Republican National Committee web site--can be found below. At about 6 pm tonight, Todd's Twitter page became protected and was no longer publicly available. (1 page)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1023083twitter1.html




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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #185
189. Her blog website.
http://lifeinthefield.com/blogs/ashley-todd

All the blogs read like something out of The Onion.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:46 PM
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192. You know what pisses me off?
The assailants ALWAYS seem to be BLACK. Or HISPANIC.

Exhibit A: Susan Smith

Exhibit B: Jennifer Wilbanks (The "Runaway Bride")


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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #192
199. There is an episode of South Park in which a bunch of crimes get blamed on
"some Puerto Rican guy."

Funny, but sadly too close to the truth.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #185
196. God gave Americans the right to make U-turns?
Wasn't that THOUGHTFUL of her? Whatever would I do without God's permission to U-turn? Since I've moved to this town, I've become an EXPERT at U-turns. Now, thanks to Todd, I know I have the blessings of the lord.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:36 AM
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198. "Oh, the blog I will be making soon"
Gee. Doesn't sound like someone who was just victimized and violated. It sounds more like someone has an exciting secret that they just can't wait to spill!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:26 PM
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188. Doesn't look like a fresh knife wound to me.
It looks more like lipstick or something. How did it heel so quickly?

:eyes:
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:55 PM
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195. Any bruises on her arms? No redness in her eye? Hmmm.
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ellisD Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:24 AM
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201. Barack Strikes Again!!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:23 PM
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206. LOFL!!! This deserves a top post so it can be rec'd
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ellisD Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:57 PM
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208. reposting McCain pic
I don't have enough posts yet to start a new thread, but anyone else is welcome to take this pic and start one... or do with it whatever they want... I made myself so as far as I'm concerned anyone who wants to use it anywhere they want :)
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 06:23 AM
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203. NBC "Today"- this photo was taken "by a friend"
Note that Ms. Todd is not wearing mascara. Therefore, the black substance under her eyes was PUT THERE. It is NOT bruising.
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ellisD Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:18 PM
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205. now she changed her story
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OldBlueDem Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:48 PM
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207. That is not a knife wound
If it is a wound at all, it was made by a razor or something very sharp, not a dull knife as the alleged victim claims. A dull knife would have left much thicker scarring.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:06 PM
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210. She copped to the truth . HOAX
The MacMaverick campaign "hopes she gets the help she needs". ROFL
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