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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:57 PM
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CHICKEN GEORGE won't Debate Kerry! CHICKEN GEORGE - you can bring Cheney!
The Chimp is too scared to debate.

-Will he have SEVEN MINUTES to think about his answers to tough questions?

-Will he need Dick Cheney there to hold his hand like before the 9/11 commission?




Chicken George won't debate!

Chicken George won't debate!


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/afp/20040905/pl_afp/us_vote_debates
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:58 PM
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1. "The president can have cheney with him for the third
debate if he wants" I love it.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:03 PM
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2. I my memory serves me, Poppy initally said he wouldn't debate Clinton
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 10:04 PM by xray s
In '92, Poppy was afraid to debate the Big Dog and initially refused to schedule debates...at which point Carville got a guy in a chicken suit to follow him at every campaign appearence. Bush even when psycho at one event, ranting about "chicken man".

Time to take a page from the '92 campaign
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:05 PM
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3. Begaaak gaaak, begaaaaak

You bet your ass they're afraid to debate. And they should get this through in EVERY forum they can.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:21 PM
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6. Let's do it, then
if they can revive push polls, why can't we revive Chicken George?

:headbang:
rocknation

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:10 PM
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4. He knows he can't debate Kerry without a teleprompter and earplug
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 10:13 PM by rocknation
He knows he couldn't debate PORKY PIG without a teleprompter and earplug!

:headbang:
rocknation
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:11 PM
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5. I have long thought that "Chicken George" is a meme

that at least some of us should be using.

Chicken George doesn't want to debate.

Chicken George avoided going to Viet Nam.

Chicken George didn't even complete his tour with the champagne unit of the Texas Air National Guard.

Chicken George wouldn't be a combat soldier himself but he loves sending other men into combat.

Chicken George won't attend the funerals of any American soldier who has died in one of his wars.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:21 PM
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7. Is that fucking chicken-shit going to get away with this?
"We look forward to the debates. We look forward to having a debate about debates. We will, in an appropriate time, which is shortly, talk about our intended participation," he told ABC television's "This Week" program.

A FUCKING DEBATE ABOUT THE DEBATES?

Seriously, is he going to get away with this bullshit? I am so mad I could scream.


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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:23 PM
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8. This will KILL him in the polls. It looks totally chickenshit.
Because it IS.

Dumbass. He'll have to cave once he sees the bottomless fall this would put his numbers in.

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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:24 PM
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9. If I'd committed that many crimes in office
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 10:25 PM by Nimrod
I wouldn't want to appear in public without a hired audience either.

There's no way * is going to the debates, it would spell death for him as each and every lie and criminal offense is thrown directly into his face. He's going to dodge this like the crotch-rot and put up a lameass show of being "too busy" and "above it all". Just watch.

<<Editted fore speeling>>
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:25 PM
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10. Is this official or just musings from Liberals

I'd like to know.

I am baffled that someone "so tough" with such "macho" would be too damn scared to debate.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:30 PM
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11. The link in the first post explains Bush being noncommital about
what debates "he decides" he will take part in.

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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:04 PM
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24. This is insane

A "debate on the debates".....

they are able to say anything, no matter how inane it is...I weep for this nation
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:07 AM
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31. Arizona debate on the chopping block...newspaper link
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0903gop-notebook03.html

Bush's camp may cut 1 debate

Billy House
Republic Washington Bureau
Sept. 3, 2004 12:00 AM

NEW YORK - Could Tempe find itself the odd location out for the upcoming presidential debates?

(cut)

GOP strategist Scott Reed was quoted by the Reuter news agency this week as saying the Bush camp's position is that "two debates are sufficient and will not dominate the entire fall schedule."
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:41 PM
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12. He knows he has nothing to gain in a debate, and everything to lose.
He'd be smart to avoid them because we know they can't trust him to participate....

I only hope the pressure from Team Kerry and the media force him into "a live exchange to inform the voters on the issues".

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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:47 PM
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14. He can't avoid them
There's no way W doesn't lose 15 percentage poiunts in the polls is he avoids debates; there's no possible explanation that would satisfy anyone short of hospitalization.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:03 PM
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23. Kerry is excellent in a debate...
where are you getting this silliness? "Kerry does not debate that well..."
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:46 PM
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13. I like
georgie the Girly Man.....
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:00 PM
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21. Or Gigi

better known as Georgie Girl.

His machoness is such a shame.
If Arnold and Tweety can't stand the heat they need to stay out of the kitchen.

They started all this macho stuff and neither of them have a spine.

What is a leader that happens to be identified on the last census as a male?

It is someone that doesn't look like a deer in headlights while reading a Pet Goat Book on 911!

Gigi is a spineless wonder that needs to be exposed.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:48 PM
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15. Why would a former cheerleader be chicken to debate
a true war hero.

We'll even throw in some pom poms if that helps.



and Victor Ashe can come hold his hand.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:49 PM
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16. "Chicken George"
The guy in the chicken suit ought to be playing the violin
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:50 PM
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17. kerry should show up - even if * isnt going to be there.
60 minutes of TV with no George - AWOL again.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:52 PM
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28. Yes!
Kerry could just give one of his stump speeches to the entire fucking country...brilliant!
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:58 PM
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19. Maybe they are afraid of how short W looks compared to Kerry
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:59 PM
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20. They just want to f*** with Kerry and then accuse him of going "wild-eyed"
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:01 PM
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22. W thinks he will win debates with sound-bytes, one-liners & Fox News spin
No one except wonks follow the technical merits of the arguments made
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:29 PM
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27. I don't think so
That's why he doesn't want to do them
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loathesomeshrub Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:12 PM
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25. Here's an idea. If the moron won't show up Kerry can do something like
Edited on Sun Sep-05-04 11:12 PM by loathesomeshrub
Jon Stewart did. Show Bush making promises and not keeping them, or saying one thing and doing another on video or film
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:02 AM
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30. Can Kerry have Jon Stewart moderate his solo debate?

Come to think of it, what do you call a debate with only one person?

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:18 PM
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26. Bush doesn't think he needs to have actual debates
He has a debating program.

He's thinking about one day developing the intention to establish a program to contemplate whether to debate whether he should have a debate.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:01 AM
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29. Kerry needs to be careful.
In a REAL DEBATE, Kerry would beat the snot out of chicken george*, but these won't be real debates.

Kerry doesn't do well in short sentence answers. Most problems are complex, and Kerry can get too wordy for the majority of TV watchers with short attention spans and limited cognitive skills. In 2000, most of chicken george's* answers were idiotic, but the TV people loved it,
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:53 AM
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32. Exactly right - see this - Kerry may benefit from no debates
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 12:56 AM by Darby
Bush hasn't done a bad job of masking his boredom with the
details of governance; he's done an excellent job of flaunting it. When
asked by Tucker Carlson of Talk magazine to enumerate his weaknesses,
Bush baldly replied, "Sitting down and reading a 500-page book on public
policy or philosophy or something." In another moment with Carlson, Bush
reported having read a profile of Al Gore by Louis Menand in which the
vice president discusses Maurice Merleau-Ponty's Phenomenology of
Perception. This prompts Menand's observation that "it is a little hard
to imagine having this conversation with George W. Bush." Bush does not
take umbrage at this slight to his mental capacities. Instead, he sees
in it proof of his political virtuosity. "Bush finished the piece,"
writes Carlson, "convinced that Gore lacks the warmth and personal
appeal necessary to win a presidential race." More recently, Bush
advisers have confided their pleasure at the pop quiz " fiasco," saying
it makes their man seem like a normal guy.

In fact, Bush's lightweight persona has the feel of a deliberate
strategy. What Bush understands, and the pundits do not, is that he is a
brilliant candidate not despite his antiintellectualism but because of
it. He has stumbled upon a fortuitous moment in which the political
culture, tired of wonks and pointy-heads and ideologues, yearns instead
for a candidate unburdened by, or even hostile to, ideas. It is a moment
made for the chipper governor from Texas, and he is soaring upward,
propelled by his own weightlessness.


http://www.tjm.org/articles/msg00243.html
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Darby Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:04 AM
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33. If Kerry said "Fine, no debates" - W would demand debates
Kerry wins either way.

If no debates, he doesn't set himself up for George's "aw shucks I forgot to do my homework, snicker, snicker" teachers-pet debate style.

And he wins if he forces W to concede to debates. If Rove has to prepare W for one or more debates...major drain on Rove's time and energy.

Also, I heard they already hired Jim Baker to lead the debate prep team. This is good, especially since Baker currently represents the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in the lawsuit brought against the Kingdom by the 9/11 families. A quasi-US official representing the Saudis against Americans. Disgusting.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:57 AM
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34. kick-cluck
:kick: for Chickens everywhere...
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:01 AM
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35. One debate -- In late October
Would be fine. Think about it.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:12 AM
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36. I respectfully disagree
Bush has MOUNDS of prep for each debate. Preparing answers, reactions and canned positions for THREE debates is a lot bigger deal for his campaign then programming him for one measly debate...IMO.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:27 AM
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37. AWOL then,
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 11:27 AM by bmbmd
AWOL now. You can't spell "AWOL" without "W".
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