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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:25 PM
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The force of the Hillary Effect
The force of the Hillary Effect
By Derrick Z. Jackson
Globe Columnist / October 18, 2008

LONDONDERRY, N.H.


THE BRADLEY EFFECT is fading into the Hillary Effect.

The former is the phenomenon that the polls overestimate how much white voters will support a black candidate. The latter was in full force Thursday at Barack Obama's first rally of the homestretch of the presidential campaign. Huge numbers of women from New Hampshire and Massachusetts who breathed fire into Hillary Clinton's campaign after Clinton was stunned in Iowa by Obama cheered jubilantly with the original Obama believers.

Until recently, polls indicated that a quarter of Clinton voters were so steamed over her elimination that they threatened to vote for Republican John McCain. A month ago, McCain had a slight lead in two polls in New Hampshire. Obama now leads by 10 percentage points in Real Clear Politics averaging of the last state polls. From listening to former Clinton voters, you know why.

"It took two to three weeks for it to all settle down," said Sue Martin, 68, social studies textbook editor from Atkinson, N.H. She was a Clinton volunteer in the Salem office. "Back then, I thought he was way too young. But he's grown a lot."

"Up until the last month, I was going to write in Hillary," said Janice Keene, a 58-year-old retired elementary school teacher from Londonderry. "I was quite disappointed. But our country needs change, especially the middle class."

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:30 PM
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1. That Palin stunt has backfired. Big. Time.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:34 PM
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Yep...
:evilgrin:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:34 PM
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2. Oh, yes, especially with women, the very people the rethugs
were hoping to attract. Bad judgment all around.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:41 PM
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3. It just shows the lack of respect they have for women.
This is why I don't understand Republican women. They aren't respected, and they know it. But, they must not mind. How sad.

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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:46 PM
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4. the "HEALTH" of the mother...
just pushed any Hillary supporter who was still thinking about voting McCain or even writing in Hillary at this point. I think that line alone may have made many of them realize exactly what's at stake here.. the health & well being of not only themselves, but their daughters, granddaughters, neices & friends.

John McCain couldn't have done better if he'd shot himself in the face with that utterly stupid comment. And the irony is that he didn't even need to say it at all.. he could have just kept quiet and let people wonder about how much apathy he has for women.. instead of baring it to the country. Thanks John! :hi:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 02:51 PM
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5. As A Hillary Supporter Who Supports Obama, When She Said "It's Not About Me,"
and when I considered that the US Supreme Court will likely have 2-3 judges appointed (replacing the liberal leaning judges), that was it.
I believe it is known here that I supported Hillary in the primaries, but when she said what she that, and I looked at the Supreme Court & what a mccane administration would do, it scared the living shit out of me. But the moment when I really calmed down was when Hillary (my hero) said "It's not about me." That was when Obama clinched my vote. A game-changer if you will.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 03:17 PM
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6. It's insulting to Hillary supporters to say that Sarah Palin is an acceptable substitute for Clinton
especially since the only thing they have in common is their gender --and that's why it's insulting.
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