*****OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL HOFSTRA PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THREAD (5) *****

[THUNDER HANDS]

debate thread 4 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7467086&mesg_id=7467086


oooh, Sarah Palin coming up....

[Muttocracy]

1. Palin a role model? thanks, but no thanks! ethics violator!!

[fishwax]

6. no kidding!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

2. Obama owned on the Ayers/ACORN question.

He was totally prepared and his answer was good.

McCain looked like a weasel trying to push that line, blinking a mile a minute with his warbly voice.

Game set match.

[goodgd_yall]

Yes, he did! Superb answer.

I liked how he named people he DOES associate with.

[lib2DaBone]

3. Palin is s reformer... oh ya.....

[Liberalboy]

12. Special Needs card

[valerief]

Palin is NO role model for women! We're not idiots!

[bdamomma]

104. well, with that comment we know what he thinks about women.

you stupid man. comparing us to Palin I think of myself more highly than that POS.

[Dangerman]

4. Reformer my ASS!

[occe]

BRESH of fresh air

[DesertRat]

9. Bresh of freth air.

[ravencalling]

5. Role Model? For Women?

Bwa ha ha ha ha !!!!

Reformer through and through..

[Dukkha]

if by reformer you mean AIP secessionist!

[Occam Bandage]

7. Yeah, Ms. Abuse-of-Power will reform Washington.

[demo dutch]

8. dupe

[WinkyDink]

10. BWAH! Freudian slip: "Breas-h...breath of fresh air."

[demo dutch]

11. the uncommitted male voters on CNN are stupid

[rainy]

13. Why does McCain ALWAYS get the last word in every question even if he

does not get the question last? He speaks last on every question.

[Irishonly]

I noticed it also

[all.of.me]

oh, hurl..........

[Bryan]

14. It's time we had that bresh of freth air...

She's rubbing off on him!

[uponit7771]

15. Old boy network = A McKlan staff meeting.....Mercury in imunization shots is what's upping autism

[pink-o]

Mention Troopergate!

Mention that Palin voted against funds for special needs kids!!!!

[rainy]

16. Why does McCain ALWAYS get the last word in every question even if he

does not get the question last? He speaks last on every question.

[kath]

31. That's driving me nuts - he's getting WAY more time. SHit.

[never cry wolf]

78. Because he is in trouble, and his base wants him to attack

So he is playing a RW talk show host tonight, speaking loud, rude and out of order... I also think they coked or roided him up or something, lok at his eyes...

[DeschutesRiver]

17. McCain is insane.

[NoodleyAppendage]

Did Grampy say, "BREAST of fresh air." ???? n/t

J

[WinkyDink]

34. Virtually, yes. (I called it a Freudian slip. ;) )

[sandyd921]

18. The CNN uncommitted voters don't seem to know about Palingate

or any of the other travesties of her record!!!!!!

[LiberalFighter]

19. Palin understands everything just like McCain knows how to do it better.

[flvegan]

20. The question was about her becoming president, moron.

[jazzjunkysue]

21. Palin women flatline response. High for Biden. Men like discussion of Palin.

Wow. Fascinating to see that in real time.

[BattyDem]

22. Role model???

:scared:

To all the young ladies out there: You would be better off if you model yourselves after Tina Fey, not Sarah Palin!

[beac]

23. It was't money BACK to the taxpayers, it was a SOCIALISTIC redistribution of oil wealth!!!

[paparush]

24. Damnit Obama..HELL NO SHE ISN'T QUALIFIED...JUST SAY IT!!!

[Blasphemer]

46. He should have gone after her record... he had the opening... nt

[apocalypsehow]

25. A "BREAST of freth air"????

[Sydnie]

53. That's what I heard too

:rofl:

[TxBlue]

WTF is goin on CNN? All Repugs with dials?

No women like SP tho

[Tatiana]

26. LMAO. Obama stumbles a bit when asked whether Palin is qualified to be President. n/t

[uponit7771]

36. nah, he gave the perfect answer...didn't slam her

[woo me with science]

44. Obviously she is a capable.......

...um....politician.

He was struggling for the right word, and that was the closest he could come.

[fishwax]

no reason for him to point out the obvious

[apocalypsehow]

27. A "BREAST of freth air"????

[flamingdem]

28. PIPELINE ... GUNNA RELIEVE ... FRESH AIR ........... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

nice try trying to sell a Pig in a PIGSTY (with lipstick)

united AGAINST HER

[Scooter24]

29. CNN must have gotten a group of Republican men on their uncommitted panel...

because all McCain has to do is say "I'm proud of her!" to watch their favorable line go through the roof.

[XOKCowboy]

41. You saw that also? But she's cute!!

[Jackpine Radical]

55. No shit--that was maddening to watch.

I wonder if they got 'em hooked up to penile plethysmographs.

[Nevernose]

30. Palin likes mentally challenged kids! Definitely a reason to vote for McCain!

Definitely a reason to vote for McCain!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

32. K&R!!!!!!

[chatnoir]

33. Ya, Ms Corrupt AIP Moosehunter is a role model, you betcha

Fucking please!

[lib2DaBone]

-McLame plays special needs crad... cuts funding.. what a puke

[bullwinkle428]

35. Obama has incredible discipline to stay on the high road all of the time!

[beac]

37. Isn't it creeepy how he says he's "proud of her" like she is his daughter???

:puke:

[Muttocracy]

60. right, and he's known her all of a few months?

:eyes:

[beac]

38. Isn't it creeepy how he says he's "proud of her" like she is his daughter???

:puke:

[spanone]

39. great to bring it back to the economy barack

[fishwax]

40. Obama nailed McCain on the "special needs" priorities vs. his spending freeze

[WritingIsMyReligion]

48. Agree. That was a win for Obama, that comment.

Excellently countered.

[BattyDem]

42. " A capable politician"

Not a capable leader, a capable politician! NICE! :D

[qanda]

43. Barack is brilliant!

bringing the spending cut issue back around.

[AwakeAtLast]

45. Of course McLame is the one who goes negative on VPs

WHAT AN ASS! :grr:

[fishwax]

oh the irony!

:rofl:

[Muttocracy]

47. I would pay to have Joe Biden punch John McCain. Grrr.

[BigBearJohn]

49. McCain's sibilant s is driving me crazy

[uponit7771]

50. Obama takes the hi road on Palin, McKlan tries to slame them

[Dukkha]

51. citing the colossal failure 1st Gulf War?

jeeeeez!

[occe]

52. McCain is getting angry

[uponit7771]

66. It's obvious he doesn't see himself gaining any ground, Obama outclasses the guy by miles

[dana_b]

70. Good!!!

maybe he'll pop a blood vessel

[bdamomma]

54. OMG he's going after Biden

oh snap, Joe will get him. Oh crap John McCain is such a jerk.

[LiberalFighter]

56. McCain needs to be tested.

[paparush]

72. For Rabies? Syphillis? Orientation to Time, Place, and Situation?

[quiet.american]

57. Why do we have to spend more, John? LOOK AROUND AT THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY!!

Feckin' idiot.

[quiet.american]

Dupe. nt

[Dangerman]

58. Obama is wrong in Iraq?

Splitting the country into three nations? Isn't it your or Bush's idea, McBarf?

[dana_b]

he's nutso

[valerief]

59. "Why can't I keep my billionaire fat ass money? Wah!"

[Tatiana]

61. I'M SICK OF MCCAIN GETTING THE LAST WORD IN!!!! ARGGH! n/t

[aaronbees]

79. It's fucking infuriating! What is Bob's problem? eom

[smoochpooch]

62. McCain wants transparency but his running mate was just abusing her power! n/t

[WeDidIt]

63. If You pay attention to the Maddow/Buchanan Liveblog, Buchanan is watching the debate

in Bizarro land.

[WeDidIt]

The McCain SNORT is annoying as hell.

[Sydnie]

82. Of course he is .... that's where he lives! n/t

[rainy]

64. Again, he gets the last word.

[beac]

73. Bob S loves McCain... WHY I cannot imagine...

[Gold Metal Flake]

65. Scheffer you McDick loving son of a bitch.

[kath]

94. SCHIEFFER SUCKS MOOSECOCK.

MCCain ALWAYS, always, always getting the last word and taking up extra time.

[Blaze Diem]

67. Shut the fuck up MLame..Liar.......

No One has spent more than McLame's GOP pals of the Bushbots in DC

[Bryan]

68. Schieffer cut off McCain's shit about not raising taxes

He's not been as bad as I thought he would be.

[jazzjunkysue]

69. He just supressed a yawn!! Past his bedtime!

[dana_b]

time for his Ovaltine!

[BattyDem]

Last word again!

SHIT! :grr:

[kath]

71. DAMN - McC. gets the last word AGAIN. WTF, Schieffer?

[WinkyDink]

89. I don't know! Schieffer seems to love McCain's creepy voice!

[AlinPA]

74. Obama smiles a lot, almost chuckling while McCain talks. I hope he

doesn't overdo it. McCain smirks. He already overdid it.

[uponit7771]

75. WTF is up with the lizard tounge!!!!!!!

[dana_b]

he does that all the time

can you imagine four years of that??!!

[Glimmer of Hope]

93. He is licking his lipstick.

[City Lights]

100. *That* is the grossest thing I've seen a presidential candidate do.

And George did some pretty gross things.

McCootie makes my skin crawl.

[spanone]

76. mcsmartass pisses me off

[bdamomma]

77. what the hell is wrong with McCain, is he hanging himself tonite.

climate change? how about calling it for what it is global warming. McCain is rude and why hasn't Obama jumped in.

[Blasphemer]

96. He's desperate. he's been told he has to be aggressive but comes across crazy.... nt

[Blaze Diem]

106. This debate is pissing me off...Shut the fucking crackhead up

McLame is on some shitface kind of meds tonite..
He won't shut up.
Obama needs to ask this b.s. be stopped..take back your debate time Barack

[quiet.american]

80. X So, how do y'all think that pink lipstick is working for McCain. nt

[paparush]

90. He was drinking red Kool Aid before the debate.

[quiet.american]

105. Perfect. nt

[Dangerman]

81. McCain said we can't depend on foreign oil?

Then why the hell you supported Bush ousting Saddam in the first place?

[Hansel]

83. So there you young whippersnapper! What a jerk.

I think he's annoying Bob.

[XOKCowboy]

84. We can build 45 new nukular plants right away. Problem solved.

Where dumbass?

[bagimin]

85. ohhh nuclear pants.......I want some

[flvegan]

86. No, John..."in your first term"

[lib2DaBone]

87. Republicans had 8 years to fix energy... what's stopping them?

[mrcheerful]

88. Build build build nuclear wind solar wheres the money coming from Jonny? wife is giving you it?

[truth2power]

91. McCain said he and Biden agreed on some major foreign policy

issues, and then said Biden was wrong on many of them.

Wouldn't that make McCain wrong also?

Cripes!!Can't even follow him.

[Muttocracy]

112. good point.

[beac]

92. McCain's stump speech pops up again.

[spanone]

95. look how barack is looking right into the camera....great

[AwakeAtLast]

97. John McCain has officially resorted to talking out of his ass.

OMG. What a tool.

[uponit7771]

109. That and the McCain lizard tounge are obvious!

[MorningGlow]

98. NICE MOVE when Obama looks right into the camera

McNasty never does. It engages the audience.

[fishwax]

110. Obama has made that turn to the camera very effectively a couple of times

[Compline]

99. learn how to shut someone up shaeffer

turn off his goddamn microphone if you have to. jesus.

[travelingtypist]

101. Come on, make McCain lose it.

Obama has had some really, really good lines, and all McSame has is snark. What a nasty, nasty little man.

[occe]

114. Nasty man indeed.

:grr:

[bullwinkle428]

102. YEAH!!!!!! DRILL ON THE 68 MILLION ACRES!!

:applause:

[Phoonzang]

103. This is a comfort zone for Obama.

[LiberalFighter]

107. McCain wouldn't be willing to buy oil from a non-friendly country...

if their price was lower than another source?

If there is competition as a result of less dependency wouldn't that be a good thing for the USA?

[Faygo Kid]

108. This is no knockout punch. Better performance by McCain than I expected.

But Obama increases his comfort level, and the Ayers attack failed.

That's all it takes.

[Occam Bandage]

113. Anything but a McCain knockout is an Obama knockout. This is do or die for McNasty.

[uponit7771]

116. The more people hear Obama the better he likes them

[RichardRay]

120. No need to knock him out. A win on points will do it just fine.

Barack doesn't need to risk giving him an opening in an effort to knock him down.

[occe]

Obama doing what he needs to do

[RichardRay]

127. No need to knock him out. A win on points will do it just fine.

Barack doesn't need to risk giving him an opening in an effort to knock him down.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

129. McCain comes over as an unintelligent person

[mokawanis]

111. why in the fuck does Scheiffer let McCain have the last word every time????

[fishwax]

115. Once again, McCain's tone and body language betrays his condescension

[flvegan]

117. "I admire his eloquence"??? Fuck you, McCain you idiot fuck.

[occe]

118. McCain sounds like a little sarcastic asshole

[lib2DaBone]

BO won on the Jobs and NAFTA.. South Korean cars.. good point

[truth2power]

119. McCain said he and Biden agreed on some major foreign policy

issues. Then said Biden was wrong on many of them. Huh?

That would make McCain wrong also. Cripes! Can't follow him.

[uponit7771]

121. There's that fuckin tounge again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spanone]

122. gramps is a smart ass.....america doesn't like smart asses imho

[Reeta77]

123. OBama is so Eloquent - McCain is such a condescending ass

[bdamomma]

124. drill baby drill, why didn't he just say it.

[beac]

He's sitting down, so he can't properly shake his ass for full effect.

It's nothing w/o the ass-shake.

[Phred42]

125. Obama needs to hit harder

[paparush]

132. Yes. The high road is great..but he needs to put McCain out of his debate misery.

[BattyDem]

137. No more Mr. Nice Guy

It's time to slam him!

[valerief]

126. Drill, McGrumpy, drill. Drill another hole in your head.

[Kookaburra]

134. I believe it's called trepanation (sp?)

Could help him, you never know.

[libnnc]

139. Hear that America? You enjoy the view from Myrtle Beach?

Ain't gonna be the same if McDepends gets elected. Kiss your east coast beach vacation buh-bye!

[mrcheerful]

128. Drill drill drill now, forget that the drilling ships are tied up drilling and 5 years for 1 to free

[WinkyDink]

130. Free trade with COLOMBIA?!

[dana_b]

131. read the paper today., John??

the COlombian FTA is KILLING the indigenous people

[dana_b]

133. dupe

[spanone]

135. maybe you should travel down there......what a dickhead

[uponit7771]

136. IS McCAIN A LIZZARD!?!?!?! No seriously!

[LiberalFighter]

138. McCain supports the Columbia country just because they have just done a FEW good things?

[Tatiana]

Obama: Labor leaders have been targeting for assassination.

We have to stand for human rights. That's why he doesn't support the Colombian free trade agreement.

[MorningGlow]

140. AGAIN "Obama doesn't understand"

"I understand it pretty well"
:rofl: :rofl:

[LiberalCompassionate]

141. Maybe You should travel down there ...

then you'll understand the FTA?

what a moran

[Phoonzang]

142. How many voters actually get what they're talking about here?

[NoodleyAppendage]

143. FUCK YOU YOU MOTHER FUCKING LOOSE CANNON ASSHOLE

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

J

[NOW tense]

144. John McCain the victim?

John McCain's strongest archetype is the victim. He has been the victim his entire life. He tried to be the victim tonight when people in his audience call to kill Barack Obama.

What is the Archetypal traits of the victim?

In its shadow manifestation, the Victim tells you that you are always taken advantage of and it's never your fault. We may like to play the Victim at times because of the positive feedback we get in the form of sympathy or pity. Our goal is always to learn how to recognize these inappropriate attitudes in ourselves or others, and to act accordingly. We are not meant to be victimized in life, but to learn how to handle challenges and outrun our fears.

-Caroline Myss