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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:04 PM
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Right wing attacks McCain: "tonight was a disaster for our side"
Tuesday, October 07, 2008

You Guys Are Nuts

(Andy McCarthy)

We have a disaster here — which is what you should expect when you delegate a non-conservative to make the conservative (nay, the American) case. We can parse it eight ways to Sunday, but I think the commentary is missing the big picture.

Here's what Obama needed to do tonight: Convince the country that he was an utterly safe, conventional, centrist politician who may have leftward leanings but will do the right thing when the crunch comes.

<...>

Great. Memo to McCain Campaign: Someone is either a terrorist sympathizer or he isn't; someone is either disqualified as a terrorist sympathizer or he's qualified for public office. You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists.

If that's what the public thinks, good luck trying to win this thing.

With due respect, I think tonight was a disaster for our side. I'm dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so. Obama did everything he needed to do, McCain did nothing he needed to do. What am I missing?




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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:07 PM
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1. Great way to shore up the base there, Gramps
:evilgrin:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:09 PM
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2. Rut roh!! Now Palin has to take her top off!!
:rofl:
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:31 PM
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11. snort!
:rofl:
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 05:20 AM
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21. Oh my!
:rofl:
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:05 AM
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23. As Molly Ivins might say, Palin is all bra and no boobs.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:11 PM
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3. Keith read this to Buchanan tonight
and Buchanan had to sh*t his pants. :rofl:
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:11 PM
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4. "I'm dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so"
Seriously? No one else? :rofl:
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:15 PM
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5. Huh. I thought that Obama is a clearly qualified candidate who would fight terrorists.
It's a little bit harder to engage in a Two Minutes Hate when your colleague is sitting right next to you with undecided voters in the audience. As bad as McCain was, at least he understood that, unlike this NRO nitwit.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:19 PM
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6. Freeperville is aflame with rebellion over McDouchebagg's mortgage plan...
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:20 PM
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7. They need to wake up - it has been a disaster for them for the last
8 years.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:25 PM
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8. This nutjob from National Review thinks McCain should be NASTIER !
They have no morals or ethics. What is it about these nutcase neocons ?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:25 PM
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9. And how did mccain let this happen, pray tell.
"You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists."
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:28 PM
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10. Responses from Wingnut Central
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/7/233523/775/946/623486

(snip)
Bill Whittle:

Nothing tonight on abortion, on corruption, on "associates." <...>

This was not a great night for our team. It's up to the 527's now I think. I don't know how else to get the negatives about Obama out there.

K-Lo:

The Good News

I doubt too many people sat through this whole debate.

Lisa Schiffren:

I am listening to Karl Rove blather on right now as if Obama was knocked off his lead. When did that happen?

Consensus? Why didn't McCain talk about Ayers, Ayers, and nothing but Ayers? Oh, and abortion!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:33 PM
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12. "Why didn't McCain talk about Ayers, Ayers, and nothing but Ayers? Oh, and abortion"
They must REALLY want to lose it.

Talking about abortion? The country is overwhelmingly pro-choice.

Ayers? Go ahead and call your opponent a "terrorist" at a debate. THAT will really get independents and undecideds on your side! :eyes:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 12:16 AM
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16. Not only that, but they (as usual) miss the big picture
Why didn't McCain talk about Ayers, Ayers, and nothing but Ayers?

PEOPLE DO NOT F*CKING CARE ABOUT WILLIAM AYERS.

I have no idea why with the GLOBAL, not just American, economy up in flames, conservatives think that ANY American besides their crazy @sses would give a hot flying fishstick about Bill Ayers.

Is Bill Ayers going to find Americans a job? Will Bill Ayers replenish their 401k's? Will Bill Ayers help them keep their home, help put their kids through college, keep the bank that holds their life savings from going under?

The fact that they are just blown away that McCain didn't make this idiotic, nonsensical, NON-troversy the center of his debate tactic shows why the Repub party is experiencing a fast and painful death in so many parts of our country. Couldn't happen to a sh*ttier group of people.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:42 PM
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13. Another one:
Signing Off

This reader out-Andies Andy:


Well I have gone outside and pulled up my Mcain/Palin sign. This election is over. I will vote for Mcain but I know that come Nov. 5 Obama will be our president-elect.

I feel sorry for Sarah Palin. A once promising career will be permanently connected to the landside loss of John McCain.

I weep for my children and their families.


Steady on. This next month is going to be a long month. Lots of things will happen. But McCain has to make some of them happen. His charge that Obama doesn't know the difference between "strategy" and "tactics" could equally well be leveled at his own campaign.

link
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:45 PM
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14. Hmmm? What are they missing? A REAL CANDIDATE? Grampy McWus ain't cutting it.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-08 11:47 PM
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15. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee ! ! ! ! !
:woohoo:
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:25 AM
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17. Stephanie Miller will be a MUST in the morning.
:rofl:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:32 AM
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22. Stephanie is a MUST every morning
Must have coffee. Must have Steph and Mooks.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:35 AM
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18. READ THEN BURN...this is turning into a dark comedy of sorts...a sick joke for the GOP
but then...they are so deserving of this Failure at Campaigning....without Truth in their quivers....they sorely miss that one I have ta tell ya....
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falcon97 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:38 AM
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19. WHY are the wingnuts panning McCain
after spewing garbage about how great Palin did? IMHO, McCain was much better than Palin. They confuse me.
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Thegonagle Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:51 AM
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20. "Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes..."
"Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars?"

No, but I did sense that he helped fund science education for a large number of children and citizens in the Chicago area at a planetarium that needed a new projector. And growing up in Minneapolis, where we had a planetarium, too, (and an OmniMax theater across town), I understood that this is a GOOD investment for our future, not some overly-expensive "overhead projector."

What a moran. Get a brain!
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ZoltarSpeaks Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:13 AM
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24. Hey, maybe it's your message, not just your messenger
What is really disheartening (and genuinely scary) about the 28% club is their seeming inability or unwillingness to get the least bit introspective about the utter failure of their own policies. When things don't go their way it is attributed to a failure to deliver the message effectively, or media bias, or in this case, failure of their candidate.

The tepid support that McCain received before becoming the nominee tells me that there will be no lessons learned by the Right if we are able to carry through and win this election. It will be the failure of the candidate, or the unfortunate timing of the economic downturn, or the librul media, or any of the other excuses that they cling to. It can't possibly be their policies.

In a perfect world I would love to see the same polling trends that we are seeing now but with their absolute ideal candidate, say a Reagan II. Their heads would explode, or at least they might be cornered into doing a little soul searching (assuming they have one to search).





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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 12:16 PM
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25. SCRAPPING THE AYERS ATTACK ALREADY?....
October 8, 2008

SCRAPPING THE AYERS ATTACK ALREADY?.... The political world was told to expect some ugly, guilt-by-association attacks last night. We'd hear about Bill Ayers. And Tony Rezko. And maybe even Jeremiah Wright. The phrase "unrepentant terrorist" would be bandied about.

And then, nothing. The telegraphed punch was never thrown. Did McCain just forget? Or did he perhaps think that a town-hall forum was the wrong setting for the attacks?

Apparently, this was deliberate. This morning on "Fox & Friends," McCain aide Nicole Wallace backed off Ayers-related talk, saying the association "is between Barack Obama and the voters."

The Politico reported that the smear campaign that's been in the works for days may be scrapped altogether.

<...>

Greg Sargent added that the shift "suggests that the McCain campaign's internal polling on how the Ayers stuff is playing is just brutal, likely among independents. It also suggests that Obama's counter-attack -- lambasting McCain's campaign for wanting to change the subject from the economy to personal attacks -- has been effective."


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