I overheard a conversation at the pump.

[Obamarulz11]

Two men were talking about Obama and his past.

guy 1: U heard about Obama's ties when he was 8 years old?
guy 2: What the hell that has to do with Gas prices..I mean look at this shit(while pumping gas) and my business. Shit, My son may have to drop out of college this year due to this crisis.

guy 1: That is exactly my point, the republicans are focusing on things that has nothing to do with our problems. my 401K has dropped almost 10 percent. He may be black, but i dont give a damn. Obama can fix this s**t
guy 2: Hell yeah! Fuck McCain.

Its hitting home hard!!

[unpossibles]

1. "He may be black"

:sigh:

I'm glad more people are coming around, but... sheesh.

[knixphan]

10. my thoughts exactly

(looking at my own skin)

'You may be black....but...

Let's win anyway! We can worry about evolving the masses in January.

[NatBurner]

16. lol me too

my first reaction was all "wtf?"

then i was like "fuckit. a vote's a vote"

[calimary]

19. Exactly. Now is not the time to look a gift horse in the mouth.

A vote is a vote. And it's a signal that when people have a good reason to look beyond race, they will. That's the first step in the ultimate evolution that will eventually make race irrelevant.

[teknomanzer]

36. Prejudice and bigotry take a back seat

to an empty pocket book. In a strange way that is progress. Racial bigotry has been used to divide people of the lower classes who have had more in common culturally and economically with each other regardless of skin color than they share with the upper class. I guess that is not working now. People are looking to the black guy to get the country back on track.

I have to say that I do not envy Obama in the task that lies before him. There is a huge mess to clean up now - if he becomes president (and I believe he will - but let us stay vigilant just the same) there is the potential for a let down because we may not even know yet how screwed up everything really is. It is so much easier to destroy than it is to build.

[knixphan]

51. true words, my friend!

[yodermon]

12. well point being, if mcCain can't even count on the *racist* vote, then all bets are off

[treestar]

18. Even the racists are voting for Obama!

McCant was probably counting on them! :rofl:

[1corona4u]

25. Yeah, but guess what....if Obama does what we all think he will...

they will probably be racist no more. :-)

[graywarrior]

32. This is how people change.

At least they are open to something and someone different. Electing Obama could really help change people's fear of skin color.

[1corona4u]

34. I truly think it will.

Some people just have to have things 'proven' to them. I think this will change a lot of minds, and maybe some hearts too.

[tigereye]

45. I was trying to think of a diplomatic way to say what you just said!

excellent analysis!

:thumbsup:

[Liberalboy]

21. Apprently

when it comes to colour, seems like people only care about green

[chicagoexpat]

23. Isn't it true "he may be Martian?" I mean, really... them UFOs come from someplace....

:rofl:

Personally, I'm an unhealthy shade of beige... definitely beige...

[nyc 4 Biden]

27. That is not necessarilly a racist comment...

...he may just be recognizing that that is an argument many people are using against Obama and that it doesn't matter to him. Just a thought.

[Teaser]

41. baseline racism

.

[Kber]

48. I worked for a guy who spent 20 years in the marines

He headed up a manufacturing orginization and had the most diverse management group I've seen in corporate leadership. I asked him about it once and he said that, if all that was at stake was a few percent profit or a few dollars on the stock price, our instinct to hire and promote people like ourselves might blind us to the better candidate.

However, in his case in the military, not having the very best women and men on his team might cost him his life. He said it really focused your attention on who would really be the best man or woman for the job.

So he just took what he learned in the marines and applied it to the rest of his life.

Anyway, he's a white Irish Catholic ex-marine who is voting for Obama.

[cags]

2. Love it!!! Truth flipping hurts doesn't McStupidPants

[msallied]

3. An Obama presidency, if a successful one, will cure a lot of bigotry, I think.

[elkston]

7. Not cure. Ease a bit, perhaps. But we still have a long way to go. (eom)

[unblock]

15. unfortunately, the nature of bigotry is such that obama will be seen as an exception.

if he succeeds, he'll be an exception. bigots will still hate blacks, but see obama as someone unique.

on the other hand, if he fails, he takes the entire race down with him. imagine if he's a disaster; bigots would say of the next black candidate, "what, are you kidding? look how badly obama screwed up!"


bigotry can survive all evidence, good or bad. real progress can be had only be a generation of bigots dying off, to be replaced with a new generation that grows up in a less charged environment.

[ieoeja]

33. Most soft-core racists only hate every Black man they never met.

All those they have met, they like. So you are 100% correct. They will view Obama as the exception rather than the rule.

[OnionPatch]

37. I don't know.

I was raised in an all-white town, went to an all-white school and had a bunch of racists in my family, especially my own father. When I was finally exposed to people different from me, every black person I met turned out to be an "exception." It only took a few for me to figure out it was all baseless racism. I think people can change their preconceived ideas with a little evidence. Sure, there will be those who never change, but change is possible for many.

[unblock]

39. to paraphrase a quote i can't quite place: a person can change but people do not.

[sweetpotato]

26. I'm from South Carolina

If Obama succeeds - has a wonderful tenure as President - the racists will say that it is because his mother is white and he was "raised white."

There is no easy, quick way to change a racist into someone colorblind.

[FirstLight]

4. I am sorry that so mnay are suffering...BUT

The anger just may be the catalyst we need. Vivi la Revoltion! Yes, Obma is a liberal, and you know what...it is the LIBERALS who give a sht about the people and the masses and the quality of our lives!!!!


more and more people are waking up to say, let's get this DONE! Yes we can!

[elkston]

5. Is this true, really? Anecdote, but sounds encouraging. (eom)

[HughMoran]

6. Fuck McCain is right

No more Republicans.




Ever.

[MadMaddie]

8. Amen! Amen! Amen!

It was always in the pocketbooks of Americans. It's just too bad it had to get to this point!

[Obamarulz11]

11. When he said, "that his son may have to drop out of college" its real bad

[parabolabear]

22. the school's i've dreamt of going to for 5 years are out of the question now

and i'm looking at state or city universities instead. my heart is broken beyond belief :\ grahhhh. even typing that makes me tear up.

[MadMaddie]

43. Yea there are probably a lot of Americans in the same boat.

When the kids drop out of college there are no jobs for them because they are competing against the out of work adults. It's a terrible cycle.

[stuntcat]

9. wow!

Well I'm not sure if anyone could jump right in and fix this shit so I hope everyone won't hold it against him if everything doesn't turn right around.. I mean it's taken years to get us into the shit we're in.

BUT YEAH I'd be excited to hear that! :headbang:

[intheflow]

17. I'm guessing Obama will say that very thing, repeatedly.

I imagine fireside chats going something like this: "It took a long time for us to get in this mess, and it will take time to get out of it. But if we work together, it won't take as long to dig out as if we were each working alone."

[voteearlyvoteoften]

13. Campaign calls today

Today I had 3 older men say they would not vote, or vote Libertarian because of the bail out.(they were ind. or rep.) Fine with me, just don't vote for you know who.

[budkin]

14. Great story thanks for sharing!

[gauguin57]

20. Fortunately, I think that having an African-American president will undo some people's "programming.

... the "he may be black ..." stuff.

Once people (who have been "carefully taught" to "hate all the people their relatives hate") see a real leader actually working to fix what's wrong with this country and give lower and middle class people a fair shake, they'll stop seeing the color of his skin -- and, perhaps, the color of everyone's skin.

[eshfemme]

24. LOL, I love that guy 1 knows enough about the Ayers BS that Obama was 8 at the time

The repartee between these two guys is priceless! Thank you for posting that. It really made me LOL (seriously!).

:rofl:

[npincus]

28. true story?

[jazzjunkysue]

35. My Archie Bunker Dad tore his GOP member card in half and mailed it back to them.

They now know they've been had.

First the war, then, the jobs, now the market.

And they've figured out that Gramps isn't done, yet. He still hasn't trashed everyone's health care and social security, but he's workin' on it!

[fasttense]

29. I've noticed that many right wing idiots (unfortunately not all of them)

are just keeping their mouths shut when I tell them Obama is winning. They use to argue with me or tell me how this will ruin Merika. Now they just look at their feet and shrug.

Sometimes reality slaps idiots up side the head and makes them see through all the spin. Reality is a hard thing to fight (especially when it comes with unemployment, higher gas and food prices, and fewer beers.).

[RichardRay]

30. The ones for whom 'black' is a good thing, or for whom it

just doesn't matter have largely been voting for him already. When we start getting voters for whom it is an issue voting for him anyway, then it's worth talking about!

[Phx_Dem]

31. What state are you in?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

49. He's in Georgia...nt

[Life Long Dem]

38. That is a real conversation. I thought you were going to tell a joke.

But it's real. You know how they start... "Three men go into a bar. One man says to the other"...and so on.

McSame is connected with the same set of circumstances that is involved in this economic crisis, and the more people know how his crooked behavior is similar to this crooked behavior, the better off our whole country of this United States of America needs with every inch of the country's passionate strength!

"I Have A Dream!" :bounce:

[b2b55]

40. take the votes, where ever they may come from

[TooRaLoo]

42. LOVE IT!! Rec'd nt

[Cha]

44. I would have loved to hear something

like that!

I've been talking to a couple of ignorants who one is for nader(Pu-sleaze) and the other was nitpicking about you couldn't trust anyone.

Proud of myself, though, I didn't lose it.

[A Simple Game]

46. What I usually tell people that are bigots is that

to people like Bush, McCain/Palin, and most Republicans, we of the so called lower class are all "black".

You can see the wheels start to turn and so far everyone of them has agreed with me.

[codjh9]

47. Good! Except maybe they can eventually learn to drop the racist shit too! n/t

[ecstatic]

50. Doesn't ring true, but LOL nonetheless! nt