Crap! It was a good speech

[amjsjc]

I've got to give the Devil (or at least the Devil's speechwriter) his due... A good speech, well delivered by Bush. Kerry's going to need to go into high gear to overcome this...

[lanparty]

1. Good delivery ...

... But fool of fluff and empty promises.

Kerry is calling him on it RIGHT NOW!!!!!

[YellowDawgDemocrat]

13. I'll Be Kind...He didn't suck nearly as bad as I hoped he would

If anyone stayed awake for the last 20 minutes, the speech probably made a favorable impression. However, the first 5 hours of it was nothing to brag about.

[LiviaOlivia]

38. Same Bush shit. Same lame shit.

Same lies like 4 years ago. It was all lies out of the mouth of a 3rd generation thief. Still stealing, still belling up to the PUBLIC trough. Remember that your are dealing with the BFEE. They want your
money then your servitude.

[Langis]

2. I don't think we were watching the same speech

[lanparty]

40. Try to look at it from an independent perspective ...

I KNOW it was swill. I KNOW it was garbage. But it was well presented garbage.

Considering the president has NOTHING to run on, he did a good job presenting himself.

[tridim]

3. It was about 1/1000th of Kerry's speech right now

You should watch it.

[JPJones]

It was a boring speech. Same old shit, different city. n/t

[kanrok]

4. Oh. puhleeezeee

Get a grip, man. It sucked out loud. Watch Kerry. See a real speech.

[democratreformed]

5. Kerry's kicking serious ass in overdrive at this very moment.

I mean kicking ass major.

[Zinfandel]

31. As Malloy said...Kerry's doing it "without a teleprompter".

[democratreformed]

33. Isn't it great to support such a wonderful man who has an actual brain

in his head? John Kerry is awesome!

[Tatiana]

6. Turn to c-span and watch Kerry's. It's even better. n/t

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. Huh?

Tune into CSPAN2. Kerry's on there now. Compare the two.

[lapfog_1]

8. Pedestrian speech

full of empty promises and lies.

A lot of imperialism... freedom at the point of a gun.

[TheDonkey]

9. Kerry just nuetralized bush's spew

he's on fire. Edwards was even better. They are ready for this next 2 months.

[Walt Starr]

10. It was NOTHING compared to the speech our next president is giving

right now!

[texas1928]

16. Hell I want to see it but the damn repukes in this city have

C-Span 2 tied up with the latest city council meeting.

[Catt03]

11. ****&%$#@(s*&(I(

Go write "good Speech" somewhere else.

[punpirate]

12. Yeah, right....

Tired out, recycled rhetoric from 2000, cynically expecting the masses to believe him, once again, delivered to a raving bunch of drones.

Yeah, I'm impressed. :eyes:

[NYC Liberal]

14. It's the same stump speech

he's been giving for months now. They just changed a few words and moved a few sentences, that's all.

May have been well-delivered, but there was no substance. And Kerry is ripping him a new one right now.

[ButterflyBlood]

15. it was just empty substance and empty promises

and boring as shit.

[Snellius]

17. God, even DUers are falling for this crazy crap.

Did you listen to what he's really saying. It almost doesn't matter if the speech was well delivered or not. The guy's calling for us to either join his religious crusade to "liberate" the world or go to hell. I've never been more certain that this guy is our Hitler.

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[amjsjc]

30. You misinterpret me

I'm not suggesting for a moment that Bush is anything other than a jackass-- and of course everything he talked about is pure hokum-- however the speech, as an act of sophistry was well delivered, and I'm afraid that Bush may have just won over a few undecided voters. We're playing a ballgame, and I think the other team just hit a double.

[lapfog_1]

47. It was a clarion call

to American Imperialism. Plain and simple. But crafted so
the masses can swallow it and think we are on a mission from God
to spread freedom and protect ourselves from "human WMDs"
(and that's a new wingnut talking point introduced at the RNC)

You're absolutely right.

[onehandle]

18. He's didn't tumble off the "Temple Mount".

That is as much as you could expect from dry drunk smirk.

[dolo amber]

19. I have European friends who saw it

They say the world is doomed...a Bush victory is certain. These are people who observe America from afar, and definitely have better perception of how this ignorant fucking country behaves than we do...

Sad, but true...I'm just sayin'.

Kerry...*cough cough Clark cough*...maybe not so much the best choice, no? :eyes:

[soothsayer]

25. WTF??? No wonder shrub hates europe! bushco is TOAST

and good riddance!

[dolo amber]

29. Honey...you keep right on thinkin' that...

;)

How many times have I seen posted here how the European education system is so far superior to ours due to their teaching critical thinking rather than reguritation...you really think they can't see through all the BULLSHIT this county is putting out there? I've been saying it for months already...if Kerry wins, I will probably need resuscitation...:eyes:

[soothsayer]

42. Then why on earth would they think bush would win? Cuz he somehow

took office in the first place? I don't get what their thinking is. Just afraid he'll win, I guess.

Me....I'm looking forward to the smackdown!

[acmavm]

20. Good? He's just recycling the crap from 2000, WHEN HE LOST THE

FIRST TIME.

[soothsayer]

21. Good! That was a crap speech

Same old crapola he's been peddling to dimwitted supporters for months.

[movonne]

22. Your first word is right !!!!

[Javaman]

24. Worst speech ever...

Crap, he was playing to the converted. Hear that same speech in a quiet room and it resembles a smoking turd.

[opihimoimoi]

27. He has been smoking dog shit.... nothing new of substance

no beef, no nothing....the pub pundits are all spinning him as the next KING...

[blondeatlast]

26. What, exactly, was good about it?

You should know us better than that by now...

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

28. How was it a good speech?

I actually listened to the WORDS he was saying and I think it sucked rocks.

So tell us why it was so good...

[truebrit71]

32. You're joking right?

It was the same hokey-ass stump speech he's been giving for months...hell half of it was lifted from his SOTU...

His delivery was mechanical and ham-fisted, his syntax was as clumsy as ever and his phony display of emotion was so obvious as to be laughable...

Want a real speech? John Kerry's from Ohio right after Dimson's...now THAT's how you work a crowd...

[yellowcanine]

34. Well he didn't fall off the stage or fart but I thought it was:

1. Too long for the actual content - lot of repetition
2. Several predictable cheap shots on Kerry
3. The domestic proposals don't add up and raise the obvious question of why are they only being proposed NOW?
4. The crowd was not with him at all - didn't even pick up on his obvious chant along line. The delivery didn't have enough energy to get the crowd into it.
5. The last bit almost sounded like the forlorn goodbye of someone who thinks he just might lose.
6. He did make a better speech than that sorry ass Pataki.
7. It was one of his better speeches but it didn't soar like Kerry's.
8. I really think the reason folks think this was a good speech is because the bar has been set so low for Bush. It was an acceptable speech for an incumbent snd he probably recovered some of the ground lost by Zell. That's all it was.

[Sophree]

48. That's what I felt too.

Didn't watch the whole thing. But what I saw was the same old same old. Nothing inspiritional.

Kerry's speech was inspirational and the crowd was way into it.

I heard some talking heads on MSNBC saying that it was a great speech- had to come to DU to see what you all were saying. Glad I'm not the only one who felt it fell flat.

Plush, he kept shlurring his wordsh. Ash ushual. :dunce: :beer:

[LibertyorDeath]

35. "Crap! It was a good speech" Well if you were Republican

& just this side of Retarded it was a Great Speech!

Other than that it was dog shit like all his incoherent babbling.

This one was more practiced Karl made him stay up past bedtime & do his home work.

[sonicx]

36. It was garbage. Listen to any chimp speech from the last 4 years

same crap. new package.

the fake emotion stuff was laughable. people will probably fall for it, but kerry's in the mood for fighting for the next 2 months. All the arrogant overconvidence BS from the WH won't last 2 weeks. Kerry's pumped.

[mellowinman]

37. What in FUCK are you talking about?

It was his 2000 speech warmed over again! Compassionate Conservatism? Simplify the Tax Code? It was like that episode of "Cheers" when Frasier keeps pointing out the guy didn't say anything!

That speech was shit.

[GaryL]

39. Bullshit!!!

His solomn duty is NOT to protect the American people but the Constitution!!! Not the unelected one would understand it. JFK does and is ready to fight for you. Get ready folks!

[George_Bonanza]

41. Painfully boring for the first 3/4

Bush tried to sound like a policy wonk but all he gave out were a bunch of easy answers and impossible solutions. When he started dishing out anecdotes, then it became a little more tolerable. But unlike Kerry who need only about 10 minutes to get rolling, Bush needed about 45.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Gotta be tough to be a pro-choice republican tonight.

He didn't seem terribly "big tent" on that issue.

[kentuck]

44. He sucked...

Big time...

[Arkana]

45. Well

Yeah, do give the speechwriters credit, but if you put it in front of me I could have delivered it just as well.

They planned and rehearsed this probably for at least a month if not two, so it has little reason to be a bad speech. Plus, they probably gave Dumbya tiny Botox injections in his bottom lip to keep it from sagging and causing him to drool.

[demwing]

46. It was Shit! NO - It was 4 Year Old SHIT!

Funny thing, I switched the channel for a moment, and when I went back to CSPAN, I accidentally went to CSPAN2, where they were playing Bush's convention speech from 2000.

Problem was, I couldn't tell. I watched it for 10 minutes before I said "Wasn't he wearing a blue tie a minute ago?" That's when we noticed that we were listening to the SAME DAMN SHIT THAT BUSH SAID 4 YEARS AGO.

How anyone could enjoy that speech is beyond me. Just watching him smirk made me want to reach through the screen and pimp slap his smarmy ass.

[sandnsea]

49. I'm objective, it was CRAP

The delegates weren't even very enthusiastic about it and those are his solid supporters. I didn't watch the whole thing, but it was just recycled Bushit. The whole convention was a flop. All Kerry has to do is come out sounding Presidential.

[henslee]

50. You are so right. Gotta give him credit. I really was not expecting such

a wonderful inspiring, speech. He really pulled it off. He was warm yet tough. Firm but gentle. And always in control. I can only pray to God, that Kerry can get it together. He seems a little off these days.

[aquart]

53. Aw, was it painful getting that 1000 posts?

Disinformation after midnight always gives me that warm, fuzzy feeling.

[henslee]

56. ????

[Bridget Burke]

54. Great satire!

One could almost think you really were a brain-dead Bush fan. Your comments are the verbal equivalent of a Thomas Kinkaid painting.

[henslee]

57. The little cottage painter guy, right? Cool. But I must give credit

where it is due, I saw others pulling off braindead bushfan posts in response to totally disrupting thread starters and thought hey... I bet I can act like a total moran, too Besides being a satisfying way to deal with them, it's fun and challenging. Being brain cell is harder than it looks!

[shawmut]

51. My republican father fell asleep less than half way through

For what it's worth.


I wasn't watching the speech, but I went it to ask him how it was going and he woke up all startled and said "great" ... so great it put you to sleep, eh, dad? :D

[oasis]

52. Good. No lowered expectations for the debates!

:thumbsup:

[floridaguy]

55. Apparently the pundits don't agree

The best review note is "fairly effective"

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/president/convention/rnc/press.pundits/