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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 12:40 PM
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BIDEN WINS DEBATE CONVINCINGLY / PALIN IS DICK CHENEY IN DRAG

Last nights so-called debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin was revealing in that it showed that Joe Biden is more than ready to assume the presidency and Sarah Biden is Dick Cheney in drag: Allen L Roland

Last night, Sarah Palin delivered her rehearsed talking points well, but that didn't sway the voters: A CBS poll of uncommitted voters shows Biden won 46% to 21%, a landslide. A similar CNN poll shows a 51% to 36% victory for Biden.

Probably the most telling finding was a control group of 40 uncommitted women in Colorado of whom 8 thought Palin was unqualified to be Vice President before the debate. The post debate poll revealed that 22 now thought she was unqualified ~ and that finding is representative of most of the women I know or have contact with.

Palin is an albatross around McCains neck for three reasons; It blows his argument for the need of experience, it equally destroys his reputation for sound judgment while reinforcing his reputation as a loose cannon and irresponsible maverick.

There were two points during the debate when Palin strayed from her well rehearsed talking points and hurt herself badly ~ the first was when she said she wanted more Vice Presidential power which Biden leaped on particularly in regard to Dick Cheney's abuses of power as well as reminding her what a Vice President was actually responsible for.

The second was the very human point where Joe Biden mentioned the tragic death of his wife and child in an accident which brought tears to Biden's eyes ~ it was a moving moment and instead of exhibiting empathy, Palin went right to her talking points revealing a cold and calculating indifference to the feelings of others.

Biden was courteous and presidential ~ Palin was in her own heavily scripted world, winking at her own private audience and eagerly grasping her 90 minutes of unvetted fame. She was, quite simply, Dick Cheney in drag.

Eugene Robinson, Washington Post, called it the strangest debate he's ever seen.



The VP Debate: The Strangest I've Ever Seen
Eugene Robinson / Washington Post
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/10/the_vp_debate_the_strangest_iv.html

Exactly an hour into the debate, Joe Biden began an answer by saying, "Facts matter, Gwen."

To him, maybe. To Sarah Palin, maybe not. The pattern, so far, has been one of Biden presenting facts and Palin countering with… saying stuff. Sometimes she throws in a fact, but mostly she seems to be offering a string of approximate policy positions, encomiums to the American spirit, disputed interpretations of Barack Obama's record and anecdotes from Alaska.

She has a certain charm, but I wonder how viewers are reacting to the way she just declines to answer the question at hand and pivots to more solid ground. I had forgotten how effective Biden can be in these debates. So far, he hasn't been patronizing or insulting. In terms of working-class street cred, Palin is in a league – or a universe – of her own. (Don't ya think?) But Biden more than holds his own.

I confess, though, I don't know what anybody is making of this. I don't even know what I'm making of it. This is the strangest debate I've ever seen. It seems like an interplanetary exchange, with poor Gwen Ifill trying to keep the Enterprise from falling into the wormhole. "

Robinson makes a good point for, in reality, it was a seasoned and widely respected Senator debating an unvetted neocon stooge who is obviously completely unprepared for the responsibilities of Vice President ~ or, perish the thought, to assume the office of President.

The McCain/ Palin Express has derailed as polls across the country confirm an expanding Obama lead. That lead will be further extended after last nights debate wherein Biden was the clear winner. Sarah Palin will eventually become a footnote in history ( like Bush's nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court ) and a classic example of the dumbing down of the Republican party at the hands of George W Bush and now John McCain.

Allen L Roland http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2008/10/03.html

http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2008/10/03.html#a2161
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 12:46 PM
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1. No, Cheney can debate
and he's knowledgeable. Palin is * is drag.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 12:47 PM
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2. PALIN IS DICK CHENEY IN DRAG?
That phrase alone probably ruined it for those who fantasize about Sarah Palin.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 12:48 PM
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3. The McNuts Crew is in the dust trying to catch up but their Filters are clogged up
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:01 PM
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4. Cheney was a far better debater than Palin ever will be
He completely held his own against John Edwards in 2004. Acknowledged his gay daughter, etc. Cheney articluated Bush's policies as if they were his own (imagine that). Palin on the other hand does not know what an "achilles heel" is.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:32 PM
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5. K&R -- loved your phrases-- "winking at her own private audience and
eagerly grasping at her 90 minutes of unvetted time." !!

And Dick Cheney in drag grabs me because she like he was pure lies when doing her thing.
Runs with an RNC pacemaker.
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