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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:29 PM
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Did Palin forget about the Exxon oil tanker "The Valdez"?
Palin can't name a US Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade?
She went blank, couldn't give a response, nothing, nada? Moose in headlights?

from politico about the Couric interview:
After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.

There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.


What about the litigation involving the Valdez decided June 25, 2008 (while she was governor)? The litigation that began in 1989, that has been on going for 19 years and that actually impacted her state and her citizens? Is her memory that crappy. The most important litigation involving the citizens of the State of Alaska and the Oil & Gas Industry in Alaska and she couldn't name it? What kind of governor does that make her, what type of Oil & Gas/Energy expert?


EXXON SHIPPING CO. v. BAKER (No. 07-219)
472 F. 3d 600 and 490 F. 3d 1066, vacated and remanded.

In 1989, petitioners’ (collectively, Exxon) supertanker grounded on a reef off Alaska, spilling millions of gallons of crude oil into Prince William Sound. The accident occurred after the tanker’s captain, Joseph Hazelwood—who had a history of alcohol abuse and whose blood still had a high alcohol level 11 hours after the spill—inexplicably exited the bridge, leaving a tricky course correction to unlicensed subordinates. Exxon spent some $2.1 billion in cleanup efforts, pleaded guilty to criminal violations occasioning fines, settled a civil action by the United States and Alaska for at least $900 million, and paid another $303 million in voluntary payments to private parties. Other civil cases were consolidated into this one, brought against Exxon, Hazelwood, and others to recover economic losses suffered by respondents (hereinafter Baker), who depend on Prince William Sound for their livelihoods. At Phase I of the trial, the jury found Exxon and Hazelwood reckless (and thus potentially liable for punitive damages) under instructions providing that a corporation is responsible for the reckless acts of employees acting in a managerial capacity in the scope of their employment. In Phase II, the jury awarded $287 million in compensatory damages to some of the plaintiffs; others had settled their compensatory claims for $22.6 million. In Phase III, the jury awarded $5,000 in punitive damages against Hazelwood and $5 billion against Exxon. The Ninth Circuit upheld the Phase I jury instruction on corporate liability and ultimately remitted the punitive damages award against Exxon to $2.5 billion.


Will McCain's camp try to blame her inability to answer on "gotcha journalism"?

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:31 PM
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1. Oh my.....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:35 PM
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2. Moose in headlights!!!
Alaskans that watch that interview will all be screaming "EXXON v. BAKER" as she sits there silent.


Former governors, the current governor, supertanker captains, environmentalists, state lawmakers, Alaska Natives and experts in maritime law have all joined sides with the 33,000 plaintiffs whose lawyers will ask the nation's highest court to uphold the $2.5 billion verdict.

"I've said this before, but this seems to be a case of justice delayed being justice denied," Gov. Sarah Palin said. "Nineteen years later after the spill, the ongoing tragedy is that there has not been this closure. And truly we need to see closure in this case."

Exxon has been appealing the verdict since 1994, when a jury in Anchorage returned a $5 billion punitive damages award against the company. In 2006, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals cut the award to $2.5 billion; Exxon appealed to the Supreme Court, which agreed last year to hear the case.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/326458.html
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:46 PM
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3. She is such an air head....hence my pic.
:-)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:59 PM
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4. I figured that out.
Trying to get folks to pay attention to this.

She is the governor of Alaska, that is her experience that her camp makes her more qualified than our guys. You'd think she would remember this case.

She is an Oil/Gas/Energy expert, or so they say, you think she would remember this case.

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:18 PM
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8. LOL, I figured you did, just wanted to make sure everyone else did.
:-)
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:16 PM
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6. This trainwreck is fun to watch though
:popcorn: :rofl:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 02:02 AM
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14. I guess the way they programmed her made it impossible for her
to have an independent thought - Roe v. Wade was part of the programming, the issues of Alaska, the case that mattered to the citizens she governed went out the window or was locked deeply away.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:14 PM
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5. K&R
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 12:27 AM
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13. Thanks so much. btw
I forgot to mention the case of Cheney v. US District Court of DC, the one that involved the secrecy of his energy task force. You'd think a VP nominee would know about that one.

And then there is the Heller case - District of Columbia v. Heller - the case about the 2nd amendment and striking down the gun regulations in DC. You'd figure Caribou Barbie, pistol packing Palin would know that one. It has to be in her NRA magazine, the one she gets because of her lifetime membership.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 10:37 AM
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19. kick
Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 10:38 AM by merh
:kick:
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:18 PM
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7. DId this actually air yet?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:18 PM
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9. I'm not sure....don't watch her....but at any rate, you know it will....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:23 PM
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11. I think it is supposed to air tomorrow night.
In reintroduction, Palin to do more interviews and "tell her story"

-skip-

Of concern to McCain's campaign, however, is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin's interview with Couric last week that has the political world buzzing.

The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.

After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.

There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/In_reintroduction_Palin_to_do_more_interviews_and_tell_her_story.html?showall


And notice that Limbaugh said that McCain's camp doesn't trusth him to do an interview on the radio. :freak:

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:18 PM
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10. Marbury v. Madison
Brown v. Bd. of Ed.

It is an indictment of our society that a major party is able to even ATTEMPT to install these idiots as our leaders.

We are a nation of idiots without hope of redemption if these two get elected or selected.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 11:25 PM
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12. Hell tabasco, you are expecting her to be a lawyer with those cases.
Exxon v. Baker was just decided in June of this year, you know while she is the governor of Alaska.

It impacts her citizens, it impacts the oil & gas industry and the fishing industry and the environment and it has been going on since 1989. 19 years of litigation, a huge verdict stripped from the citizens of Alaska by the US Supreme Court.

She should have been able to answer this one.

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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 02:37 AM
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15. I think she is suffering from SpongeBob Syndrome
She is being told to clear her mind of everything but stuff she may get asked about Foreign policy.
I predict by Wednesday she will not even know her own name
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:06 AM
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17. I think you are right, all the cramming and "quick" studying, the
memorizing of the talking points have made it impossible for her to be her and even have her own thoughts.

Its like a computer having too many programs downloaded on it and the system is busy and you can't get it to process right.
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cabbage08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 06:32 AM
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16. Kick n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:33 AM
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18. thank you & a belated welcome to DU
:kick:
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