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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:36 PM
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Let the X'er in... let him fix this mess.
Look, folks, American capitalism as we know it is over. This is the worst economic situation in the US since the Depression - which may sound cliche, but that's exactly what it is. Paul Krugman, the economist, has mentioned this among several others.

How worse can this get? Today the market lost 1.2 trillion dollars in value because the GOP stopped the $700 billion bail-out package. Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face!

28 years of aggressive deregulation has completely dismantled the system. We are going to need fresh ideas from a new generation of leadership. We are going to need pragmatism over idealism. No more partisan stupidity. No more tit-for-tat legislation. It's time to get real. And who's going to do that for us?


This dude.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:54 PM
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1. He's not an Xer, he's a Boomer.
Some say the last Boomers were born in 1964; my favorite book on the topic, "Generations," say that the Boom generation actually went from 1941-1961, and I tend to agree.

In either event, he's a Boomer. End of the era Boomer, but a Boomer nonetheless.

Can't disagree with your premise, though. You might enjoy the book. It was published in 1992, but is remarkably prescient: http://www.amazon.com/Generations-History-Americas-Future-1584/dp/0688119123

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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 05:55 PM
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2. WRITER DON'T DO IT
Wait. I agree with you.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 06:05 PM
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3. Agree that he's not Gen X.
He, like me, are the last of the Boomers. Tail-end boomers. We ended up being exposed to the "old" and then things changed and we had to switch to the "new" (e.g., watched the switch from B&W TV to color TV as youngsters). The truer Gen Xers are another animal altogether. I call 'em the "Mario Brothers/Smurfs" kids. We (and some dub us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones">"Jonesers") are a more natural "transition" group. :P

But I agree, time for the transition... time for a change!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:14 PM
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5. I am a Gen Xer. I was born in good old 1975. I watched the Smurfs.
Played Mario brothers. Obama is not a Gen xer but he is younger then the other boomers. I don't think baby boomers are all horrible though. Generations have good people and bad in them. Remember we used to be the "slacker" kids? Some of were, some of us were not.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:19 PM
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7. I say we let a Yer into the WH. Perhaps a Lohan could deal with this mess
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:21 PM
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8. God please no. Generation Y sucks! Just kidding.
I don't know about all these names. Millenials, Y, X, boomers, old people.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:28 PM
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11. Right.
I was in H.S. in 1975. My whole HS experience was the disco era! :P :rofl:

Supposedly, the beginning of the boomer range was determined by a sharp increase in babies born in 1946 as opposed to those born in 1945, and the end of the range was supposedly based on when The Pill became available (1964). The older boomers like Shrub and the Clintons are actually at the small end of the bell curve. The peak of the curve were those born in the mid-50s.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 07:46 PM
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:17 PM
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6. Thanks for your concern
:eyes:


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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:24 PM
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9. I asked, "What could be a worse mess for Obama than cleaning up the Iraq mess?
And we got a damn answer.

President Obama is going to have his work cut out for him.
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Left 0f Center Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:25 PM
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10. agree
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:33 PM
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12. He's not an "Xer"...even though that whole designation is just something that marketers....
dreamed up in order to exploit the half-bright gullible
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 08:36 PM
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13. Those of you who think Obama's a Boomer: ask him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/weekinreview/21broder.html

In his second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama is critical of the style and the politics of the 60s, when the psyches of most of his potential rivals for the White House were formed. He writes that the politics of that era were highly personal, burrowing into every interaction between youth and authority and among peers. The battles moved to Washington in the 1990s and endure today, he says.

“In the back and forth between Clinton and Gingrich, and in the elections of 2000 and 2004,” he writes, “I sometimes felt as if I were watching the psychodrama of the baby boom generation — a tale rooted in old grudges and revenge plots hatched on a handful of college campuses long ago — played out on the national stage.”

Or you can ask Strauss and Howe...

(There is disagreement over what birth years define the baby boom; some say 1946 to 1964, but the sociologists Neil Howe and William Strauss consider the boomer bulge to have begun in 1943 and ended in 1960.)

Or ask CBS News...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/opinion/main3528584.shtml

Or the Nation...

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20071203/chaudhry


There are many people who consider him a Gen X'er...


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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 09:56 PM
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14. I would be more than proud to consider him a member of my generation.
But people born in 1961 aren't Gen Xers. They may identify with that generation, being at the young end of the baby boom, though.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:00 PM
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15. Uh oh, Boomer vs. Xer again. How about Generation Jones? :D
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:07 PM
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16. My very first memory in life was the JFK murder....
My second memory was Oswald's murder two days later on live television.
This puts me and others like me in a unique baby boomer subset..... Anybody else out there?
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