Palin is not going to drop out. She's not scared, either.

[yardwork]

A lot of posters here are underestimating Sarah Palin. She is not going to drop out. She is not feeling intimidated. She does not think that she is in over her head. She is not embarrassed by her performances.

Sarah Palin is having the time of her life. She fully intends to become president of the United States when McCain's health fails. She knows that Rove and Co. are planning to steal the election for her.

Sarah Palin represents the ideal candidate of the corporatist-religious extremist coalition that has seized control of the United States. She is, indeed, Dick Cheney in heels. Not only that, she combines the self-proclaimed fundamentalist born-again religiosity of George W. Bush with the corporatist-energy company cronyism of Cheney.

Sarah Palin believes the following things, and she believes them absolutely:

1. She believes that she is a charming, quick-witted, successful politician with a loyal following.
2. She believes that the earth was made a couple thousand years ago by a God who approves of her and will provide her with money and power just because she says she's on His side. Palin believes that she is owed this by God because she is white and American.
3. She believes that God gave the earth to white Americans (that is, U.S. Americans - the other Americans in Canada and points south don't matter except as consumers and servants) to use as she and other right-thinking white patriotic Americans see fit.
4. The oil is there for harvesting, and the profits are to be divided among the few elite. The polar bears, wolves, and other wildlife are in the way and it is her God-given right to eliminate them and use them for profit.
5. She believes that it is perfectly acceptable to lie, cheat, and steal elections to gain power because God wants her to have power because she is on His side and deserves to be in charge.

Do not underestimate Sarah Palin or those who seek to put her in power for their own profit.

[yardwork]

1. Thank you for the recs!

[BlooInBloo]

2. ITSAROVIANTRICK!!!! WEREDOOOOOMED!!!!!

[yardwork]

3. That's not what I'm saying. Stop being so silly.

Palin's not a Rovian trick. She's Rove's meal ticket.

The Republicans have stolen several elections. I'm not raining on our parade. I'm urging vigilance.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Kindly point out one person - just one - who advocates for *not* being vigilant? kkthxbai!

[yardwork]

8. I'm responding to a lot of threads here predicting that Palin will drop out.

Democrats constantly underestimate the evil and greed of Republicans.

[BlooInBloo]

16. So, none - thanks!

[KittyWampus]

6. I'd edit your OP and include something like "She's too stupid to be scared"

[yardwork]

10. That's exactly my point. She's too full of hubris to be scared.

I do think she's stupid, but even if she weren't, it wouldn't make any difference. Chimpy isn't stupid, but look what that got us.

[Ikonoklast]

38. When there is mortal danger all around you, and you aren't scared

It's because you are too stupid to realize your predicament.

[elocs]

4. Anyone who actually believes that Palin would drop off the ticket 5 weeks before the election

probably needs to be drug tested. That's just not in touch with reality. Republicans would be all but conceding the election.

[yardwork]

More to the point, their base wants her to be president. They like her!

It's hard for most Democrats to imagine the world view of the Republican base. It's truly mind-boggling. The combination of religious hubris and pure greed is simply beyond the comprehension of decent people.

The people who think that the chimp is still doing a fabulous job are the people who love Sarah Palin and want her to be president. They represent about one-third of the voting public. And they own the voting machines.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

17. Those are the ultimate facts about Republicans. nt

[Starlight]

ITA that the world view of the GOP is beyond the comprehension of decent people.

IMO that's a mistake many of us make. We assume that the GOP leadership actually care about things like working people, the environment, the future of our country and our reputation.. when they actually care about absolutely nothing but themselves and their own bank accounts and will happily sacrifice the rest of us to advance their own selfish agenda.

[whopis01]

20. The funny thing is that the right wingers say the same stuff about Biden.

They claim that the Obama campaign is not happy with their pick and are planning on replacing him prior to the election.

[yardwork]

23. That's called projection. Everyone loves Biden. Why would we drop him?

[Phredicles]

76. I wouldn't say I LOVE Biden, but he'll do;

and making a switch would be a (completely uncharacteristically) terrible move for Obama's campaign.

[saltpoint]

7. I think DU has been fair in evaluating Palin's positives, which is to say

we haven't found any so far.

[yardwork]

12. lol!

I agree that we've been more than fair.

[ladjf]

9. She appears to have that same "Baronial-Dominionist" philosophy

that McCain has consistently shown.

[POAS]

13. Dominatrix? ... Oh.......nevermind...

[ladjf]

31. You are probably kidding about the Dominatrix reference.

I presume that you knew that I was using the term "Dominionist" as is applied to certain religious groups who feel that their mandate from God is take dominion over the entire Earth and its inhabitants.

[POAS]

37. I gues the

:evilgrin:

wasn't enough of a clue. I should have added

:sarcasm:

I know full well about Dominionists but thanks for the edumication anyway!

[ladjf]

42. No offense meant. I tend to be a literalist.

By the way, how does one add the sarcasm icon?

[POAS]

43. When posting

above the subject line you will see a link to the "smilies lookup table". The Sarcasm smilie is well down the list! When you find the smilie you want just click on it and it appears in your post.

[ladjf]

45. Thanks.

:sarcasm:

Just practicing.

[yardwork]

15. Yes, The same thing the chimp possesses.

[ladjf]

32. To a large degree , yes. However, Bush seems to be more "in bed"

with the Corporatist "profiteers" and a bit less into the feudal Baron landowner rights thing.
Also, Bush shows signs of being outright sadistic.

[yardwork]

47. Palin shows signs of being sadistic as well. Bounties on wolf paws?

Killing baby wolves in their dens. Aerial hunting of wolves and bears. Making victims of rape pay the police to gather evidence.

[iceman66]

11. Sad, but true.

That's why we have to do everything we can to try and make sure this election isn't close enough to steal.

I have no doubt that if McCain is "elected", Palin will end up president and the Bush years will be the 'good old days'!

[Mz Pip]

14. She's got Rick Warren praying for her

so she doesn't need coaching, information or experience. Of course it's not just those that love her who are praying.

I'm praying she'll reveal how trly inept she really is - evn more so than she's done already.

[donco6]

18. I've never met a single person who doesn't laugh at her.

I realize she's deluded herself, but she's not fooling nearly as many people as you think.

[yardwork]

24. Darling, you don't live in the south. Check out the thread with Pride pics.

See pizza box girl? She's one of Palin's base. We encounter them daily here. They love her. I'm not saying that they're a majority, but they do have control of the voting machines.

Check out the threads about vote-stealing in Wisconsin. Look what's happening in Missouri.

[dsc]

48. where are your pride pics? Was in NC?

I was there too.

[yardwork]

62. Were you in Durham yesterday? Check out Lex's thread. I'll go find it.

Photos of NC Pride! Pizza box hater girl is third from the bottom.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7231059&mesg_id=7231059

[dsc]

69. yeah I am in the Gay Men's Chorus

so I even sang. First tenor in a gay men's chorus guess it is hard to get gayer than that lol.

[yardwork]

71. Oh man! You passed right by us! I saw you!

[Vektor]

83. Oh, now that's just tragic.

Pizza Box Hate-Monger girl has the facial features and the ear set of a fetal alcohol syndrome baby, AND she looks to be about 14 years old.

She probably doesn't even have the intellectual capacity to understand the hate she's being instructed to preach by whomever stuck that pizza box on her bony little frame. It's sad that she doesn't have much of a life outside of being a buzz-kill, looking angry and crazed, and peddling bigotry. Her self loathing must be of crippling proportions, and rightly so.

[Cosmic Charlie]

19. PLus, she was blessed by a Witch Doctor, so she's got that going for her...

[saltpoint]

28. : )

[LonelyLRLiberal]

21. Well, I'd have to say Cheney at least understands what is going on.

Actually, he not only understands it, but he is a main power behind Bush, has pushed for all the crap that has been perpetuated by the Bush administration and minions and has profited hugely. Sarah doesn't have a clue, which makes her way more dangerous than Cheney.

[iceman66]

33. Yes.

A Palin presidency would be run ENTIRELY by shadowy figures from behind the scenes.

At least Cheney puts a public face on the evil.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

50. Cheney is an evil, conniving traitor. Palin is a fool and will be just a tool.

She won't even know she is being used. All they have to do is tell her God wants her to do whatever it is. I don't think she is as bright as some people claim she is. She simply can't be even minimally informed about current events and national and international politics, judging by her performance so far. Even I, who certainly have never even WANTED to be an elected official, know more than she does.

[polichick]

22. She's too much of a narcissist to be scared - just like Bush.

[Retrograde]

52. I think she believes she's been chosed to lead the country into the final days

I think she believes she's been chosed to lead the country into the final days: she's got a strong Dominionist streak, and I think she believes a Higher Power is directing her and making smooth the path for her inauguration.

People like that scare me.

[polichick]

54. They scare me too - and Hagee is the scariest one of all...

Hagee event at Palin's church coming up:

"And Rose's church, Juneau Christian Center, is hosting one of Hagee's "Nights to Honor Israel" in Juneau in March 2009, according to the Christians United for Israel Web site. (The original Web page has been taken down, but the cache shows the Juneau church on the schedule.) Indeed, in one of the excerpts Rose refers to what can only be a Christians United for Israel gathering involving Newt Gingrich and the prime minister of Israel."

http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3000

[Myrina]

73. Bingo!

:scared:

[Raineyb]

25. I wouldn't say she was scared

That would imply that she has the sense to know she's out of her league. She's too stupid for that level of self awareness.

Regards

[CK_John]

26. There is no downside for Palin. This makes her a nightmare for pundits.

If she loses in Nov she goes back to Alaska as the 800lb Gov else she goes home and calls McCain from the moose lodge everyday to ask how is his health.

[vssmith]

27. Saturday Night Live is doing us the biggest favor--making her the laughing stock

[tpi10d]

29. palin is not going to drop out

But things aren't going according to plan for the republicans. Palin's taking shots from the right and the left and has high unfavorables in polling. McCain's currently tanking in the polls.

I doubt the Rs can gain anything from the VP debate (they aren't influential in overall voting), but they definitely can lose if Palin gaffes or looks out of league.

McCain campaign from today's perspective looks to be swirling down the bowl.

[yardwork]

30. I agree. Things are much worse than they expected at this point.

It's much harder this time around to fool people. The chickens are coming home to roost. The evil, greed, and hubris is catching up to the Republicans just a few months too early.

Palin is stupider than they expected. She's not a quick study. People are angry about the economy.

[frogmarch]

34. K&R You nailed it. n/t

[Orsino]

35. I think you're wrong about her not being scared...

...or we would see her having press conferences left and right to try to shore up McCain poll numbers--and as practice for her upcoming debate, too.

Her hiding out is deliberate. It's a campaign strategy that acknowledges her weakness.

She's scared.

[iceman66]

58. I don't think she personally has any say in the matter.

Her handlers are the ones who are scared!

[dansolo]

61. It's her handlers that are scared

They are the ones that are hiding her away.

[Orsino]

86. I don't think she's stupid.

The caught-in-the-headlights look was obvious with both Charlie and Katie. Perhaps her pageant training is enough for her to believe that she will be ready in time to face Biden, but she cannot believe that she's prepared now.

I think she's certainly smart enough to know that she's woefully unqualified to do the hard work of dazzling us intellectually. She just wants to skip to the easy, cruise-control mode of vice-presidentin'. In that respect, she seems to be much like *, wanting to be a big shot just because, and vaguely resentful that We The People seem to want her to have done some work in advance of her coronation.

[H2O Man]

36. Respectfully disagree.

You list five accurate weaknesses in her thinking, and then suggest that we should not underestimate her. One can add her very poor performances in her tv interviews, plus the republican party's attempt to keep her away from the media, and conclude that she is an extremely poor candidate.

Few intelligent people would believe that there is even a one-in-one-thousand chance of her dropping out at this point. It will not happen. This is a good thing for democrats.

None of this is to suggest that anyone would be wise to underestimate the republican machine. It is always dangerous.

[mtnsnake]

59. I think the OP means we shouldn't underestimate how highly she thinks of herself

nor should we underestimate how dangerous she is BECAUSE of how high and mighty she THINKS she is.

[yardwork]

63. That's it. Thanks.

I doubt it's possible to underestimate her intelligence.

[Orsino]

87. Yeah. It may not be possible to underestimate her.

She may be the most unprepared running mate in living memory. I think we might underestimate her handlers' ability to sell her, but she herself is nothing to fear.

[mokawanis]

39. At what point will people stop predicting she'll drop out?

We are way too close to election day for her to drop out, it simply will not happen. I'd bet a paycheck on that too.

As for being scared, I doubt it. She has to know she's performed poorly in interviews but I doubt she's all that worried about it. She probably thinks she and McCain have the right "message" and that it will carry the day.

[Orsino]

89. November 5th. I still think we might see some sort of desperate act...

...like that, depending on polling, but this is a remote possibility, and I don't think it could be made to pay off for the GOP.

[codjh9]

40. Yeah, but hubris and self-confidence only go so far! She's going to be further exposed

as the mental midget & crazy right-wing psychopath that we know her to be.

[Tutonic]

41. Yeah and remember Rick Davis said that she will be learning at

the feet of the master--Cranky old Geezer McCain. Haaa! If he can't win a debate on Foreign Policy how the hell does he plan to teach her about any subject? My guess is that after Thursday he will all but abandon his hopes for the presidency and will set in to sabotage Obama's success after January.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. She may have been scared Friday night after this

http://www.wgrz.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=60983&provider=gnews (see video on side)

These people weren't playing! Philly ran her outta town! :rofl:

[intheflow]

46. I never underestimate fascists.

They run efficient systems, having woven dangerous evil structural webs. Palin is only a puppet. She will dance however her puppet masters wish.

[Hepburn]

49. She is too stupid to be scared! n/t

[HughMoran]

51. Yep, folks are setting themselves up for a big letdown

We're convincing ourselves that past performance = future results. Don't. If you don't know why we shouldn't get our hopes up, then you haven't been here since early 2004 on. Relax. Work hard for your candidate. Expect disgusting things from the monsters who call themselves Republicans. They would rather destroy the country than lose an election.

[krawhitham]

53. She is too stupid to be scared

[vanderBeth]

55. You mean she's so ignorant and out of her league but she doesn't even know it?

That's what I was thinking. She REALLY believes that she could be a great vice-president and president. I don't even know if realizes what a laughing stock she is with about 60% of the population of the US and 95% of the world.

I think that it is unlikely that she would drop out, like 10%. It would have to be her to chose drop- which she wouldn't- so if did drop out, it would be McCain forcing her to.

[D23MIURG23]

56. I don't think she will drop voluntarily; I think she will be forced out

and they will make it look voluntary. Palin's outlandish cognitions notwithstanding, she will make a fool of herself in the debate, and bring the McCain campaign significant trouble.

Furthermore, if you expect me to believe that this election is already stolen, you have to furnish some explanation as to why the 2006 elections weren't. Did they just fuck up? Weren't those elections important?

These people are powerful and motivated to be sure, but don't give them Godlike omnipotence, because they fall well short of that mark. If this election is too slanted in Obama's favor, they will be unable to pull off the heist. We can and will beat these people this time unless we give in to self defeating fatalism.

[gravity]

57. She didn't seem all that confident with Katie Couric

I think you are overestimating her. Without a teleprompter, she doesn't have the wit to hold her own in national politics.

[yardwork]

65. I doubt she could do it with a teleprompter. That's not what I meant.

I meant that we shouldn't underestimate how far she plans to go. She's not scared, and she's not planning to drop out. She wants to be president and she'll fight for it.

[Raschel]

74. I thought she was visibly scared in the Couric interview

you could see her chest heaving and the fear in her face. She's greedy though, and she's not going to quit.

[mtnsnake]

60. I love this post!

Thank you!

K&R

[crazy_vanilla]

64. she should stay, her loss is our gain n/t

[Danger Mouse]

66. We're DOOOOOOOOOOMED.

[Medusa]

67. More like W in a Dress & Lipstick

a useful idiot for the Cheney-Rove junta.

[demokatgurrl]

68. Thank you!!!

I'm getting so tired of the speculation, here and elsewhere. You are 100 percent right. These people are stupid and clever at the same time, and have no shame or conscience.

[progressivebydesign]

70. I believe she isn't cowering only because she thinks GOD wants her to do this.

She's said so many things about that in the past... she fully believes that God is calling her to do this. Please, if there is a God, can you STOP telling these wackos to do this stuff? If there is a God I highly doubt she is interfering in the politics of America. I about barfed when I saw a giant american flag in the window of the christian store downtown today...

[BrklynLiberal]

72. K & R. It NEVER pays to underestimate your enemy.

[ShortnFiery]

75. We're animals. McCain/Palin and the GOP are "Hyenas" - Obama/Biden and the Democrats are "Lions"

All you need to know about ANIMAL BEHAVIOR, you can ascertain from this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNL1MR5aj1w

[trashcanistanista]

77. She is too stupid to drop out and no matter what they

do, they can't steal a landslide. They will be kicked to the curb and stomped on, all of them.

[Quixote1818]

78. I disagree, she is arrogant but also very insecure with herself

the fact that tries to fire anyone who disagrees with her and feels a need to abuse her power shows she is insecure. There is no doubt she is frazzled right now and takes the SNL type jokes to heart. It has been said that she can't take criticism which is her biggest problem hitting the national scene and having the whole country focused on her and her screwing up. That has got to be eating her up inside.

I suspect they will give her some coke before she debates Biden. There is no way she can face him on a national stage without some powder courage. If she is on confidence building drugs the night of the debate, she might do OK and if she starts to regain her confidence she could be tough. Right now however, she has no confidence in herself.

[ShortnFiery]

79. Palin like McCain is a gutter fighter. Confidence or not she'll score some low-blows and

some sympathy points that will make the cheerleaders in the GOP spin room busy. :crazy:

[Quixote1818]

81. Probably right about that. nt

[southerncrone]

80. You've nailed it!

She is an arrogant, greedy, aggressive, power-hungry, fundie, bitch.

[Writer]

82. Look, Palin is a narcissistic woman who hasn't yet discovered that she's reached the Peter Principle

Sure, we shouldn't take her inadequacies for granted, but her inability to identify and correct her own faults is an advantage to Obama/Biden.

[palintology]

84. I am waiting for THURSDAY NIGHT LIVE !!!

I am waiting for THURSDAY NIGHT LIVE !!!

[Dinger]

85. I Underestimate Her Like A Sonofabitch, It's r--- That I Don't Underestimate

Mush as I hate the little asshole.

[No Elephants]

88. Sarah's been so great for Obama, I only hope McCain Palin is the Pub ticket in 2012 too.