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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:17 AM
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45 nuclear power plants
John McCain keeps saying he wants to build 45 new nuclear power plants.

But he never says where he wants to build them.

Will John McCain let one be built next to one of his 7 houses?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:20 AM
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1. Anyone know how much 45 nuke plants would cost?
how many gigawatt hours would they produce per year?

How much uranium would have to be mined to power them?

Where would the uranium come from and how much would that cost?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:21 AM
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2. exactly what I was wondering. Nobody wants to live near a nuclear plant
despite all the so called benefits.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:28 AM
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8. I grew up next to one, and I'm glad I did. Never breathed toxic coal smoke
filled with pollutants that kill thousands every year.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:43 AM
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11. Zogby Poll: 67% Favor Building New Nuclear Power Plants in U.S.
But only 43% would support having one built in their community

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1515

And I bet those numbers would go drastically lower if plans were made to actually build one in their community!
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:50 AM
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15. Nuclear is dead and its not environmental
No one wants to invest the GIMUNGOUS amounts of capital required to build nuclear and then deal with the potential liabilities. Not to mention peak uranium.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:23 AM
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3. Obama almost hit him with Yucca Mountain, but got shouted down.
I wish he had 10 more seconds to talk about safe storage of waste.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:24 AM
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4. And where did he come up with that 300,000 jobs figure?
out of his plutonium-filled ass?

Imagine 300,000 glow-in-the-dark Homer Simpsons
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:26 AM
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6. Doe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:26 AM
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7. gosh, you guys are fast typers LOL! nt
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:31 AM
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9. NIMBY = Not In McCain's Back Yard
Interviewer: What about the transportation? Would you be comfortable with nuclear waste coming through Arizona on its way, you know going through Phoenix, on its way to uh Yucca Mountain?

McCain (Shaking Head): No, I would not. No, I would not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPlaHQCKc34

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:33 AM
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10. Nice Catch!
:thumbsup:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:26 AM
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5. and where would you store all the waste? Yucca? nah-uh. nt
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:43 AM
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12. Nuclear is no longer mainly an environmental issue
What these people don't understand (sorry to steal John's big line here) is that both nuclear AND oil are no longer economical answers to our energy problems.

Nuclear takes too much money and too much time and utilities don't want to commit because they are seeing peak oil and they (justifiably) fear we are at or near peak uranium.

Oil companies simply will not commit any new capital to refineries because they believe the oil age is coming to a close and they fear that new technologies are going to completely erase any additional investment that they make in oil production and refining.

Our energy solution needs to be 1) first and foremost, completely homegrown -- imagine the boost to our economy if we were keeping $1 billion a DAY here in our own economy instead of exporting it in exchange for imported oil; 2) completely renewable into infinity (or at least as far as we can see) so that we never again run into peak anything; 3) clean -- as long as we are creating a new system, let's clean it up; 4) distributed -- nearly 20% of our energy is wasted bringing energy from large production plants to distributed retail outlets -- just create the energy where it is used (in SoCal, we should have photovoltaic on every roof); and 5) if possible with all of the above, quiet.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:46 AM
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13. Got it figured out
13 in Phoenix
3 in Mesa
4 in Tempe
8 in Tucson
2 in Flagstaff
1 in Sedona
4 in Yuma
3 in Prescott
2 in Scottsdale
1 in Sierra Vista
2 in Glendale
2 in Lake Havasu
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:08 AM
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16. Don't forget 2 at the cliffs of La Jolla.
Like McCain forgot his 2 condos there.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:49 AM
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14. you can't build that many plants in that length of time
and the up keep of the waste is forever. It's cost of up keep on the waste makes it a huge loser in the loooooooooong run
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