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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:34 PM
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Remind Me Again Please: How Did Obama Come To Be Chosen For The 2004 Convention Speech?
Whoever it was who suggested him, I'd like to give them a hug.

(Just watched: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tydfsfSQiYc )
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:34 PM
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1. John Kerry. :)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:35 PM
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2. Yep. nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:37 PM
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3. Somehow I thought I remembered hearing that someone suggested Obama to Kerry....
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 03:39 PM by BlooInBloo
My addled recollection goes something like: Kerry was looking for someone to give a speech. Mr X chimes in with Obama. Kerry asks "who the fuck is Obama?" Mr X shows Kerry an Obama speech and gives his bio. Kerry says "sold".

I might just be making that shit up though - my memory really isn't my strongest card.


EDIT: Or "Mrs. X".
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:53 PM
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7. Your right it was a MR X but ithe name of the Aide or adviser is gone outta my head
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 03:59 PM by Boz
But I saw similar info a few months ago and I remember it was in the local chicago paper the next morning and yes I was lucky enough to have met him back then told my wife there goes the President of 2012 or 2016. Never in my wildest dreams did I believe it could happen this quick and this smoothly.

On edit I seem to remember the name Gibson.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:34 PM
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27. Actually, if you look at the Obama bio, Kerry went to Illinois
and did an event or two with Obama. It was clear to the reporter who wrote the bio, that Kerry was looking at Obama with admiration right away. Now surely somebody (Durbin?) suggested he go to IL to see him, and then it was also true that staffers fielded several different people to possibly be in the keynote spot narrowing that field down .... BUT, I do think we should give Kerry the lion's share of the credit being the final decision maker, and doing so having met and watched Obama at work.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:37 PM
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Howard Dean deserves some credit
BHO was a DFA "rising star" or whatever they call it.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:58 PM
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10. I believe it was the "Dean dozen"
Obama was in the first batch of candidates that got support from DFA.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:37 PM
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4. This link suggests Mary Beth Cahill
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 03:40 PM by MPK
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:54 PM
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8. Thanks!
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:04 PM
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11. I heard the Barack Convention Speech from the front row
of a take back the Senate rally in Santa Monica in 2004. Senator Hillary Clinton was the featured speaker of the evening and Senator Debbie Stabenow was also on the program, along with Senator Barbara Boxer.

It was an inspiring event, and I went on to do phone banking (calling to FLA, OH and PA) and on the ground GOTV (in NV) for Kerry. I remember driving back from LV and just being crushed and all alone (my wife actually got unknowingly drug to a GOP election night returns party by a friend who was posing as a dem for several years actually -- we talked yesterday and she said she felt even more all alone).
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:37 PM
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23. These quotes from that article say a lot:
"Throughout the 1990s, I was saying the most impressive all-around student I had was Barack," Tribe now reflects.

<snip>

Obama came up again in a discussion Corrigan was having with a friend, Lisa Hay, who worked on the Harvard Law Review with Obama. "I was arguing with her about trying to give money to Kerry. She said she had to save her money for her friend Barack." She told Corrigan that when he spoke at a law school banquet, all of the waiters stopped serving to listen to what he had to say. "That was a pretty ringing endorsement," says Corrigan--enough to suggest that Obama could hold his own at the convention.

********
So, even at frickin' Harvard Law School, this guy was among the best of the best.

Oh, wait, that would make me an "elitist" to point out that that's a good thing. My bad.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:39 PM
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5. .
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 04:21 PM by AtomicKitten
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:40 PM
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6. It was John Kerry.............and Obama was GREAT!!!!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 03:55 PM
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9. Yes, he was
He had my husband and I in tears with that speech. We just looked at each other and said, this guy is going to be President one day. :bounce:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:50 PM
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12. I knew after hearing his first sentence he was somebody and going to
be somebody. I was mesmerized and still am actually...
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:52 PM
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13. Kerry spotted a sure WINNER--Obama was running against RW nutjob Alan Keyes
because no sane potential GOP candidate would accept their nomination.

IIRC, Democrats picked up only two Senate seats previously held by Republicans in 2004.

Add in the great things Kerry was hearing about Obama and his grassroots oratory and there was no other choice but Obama for keynoter.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:56 PM
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14. actually Obama had that easy shot because the GOP candidate
had gone to sex club with his wife and watched her have sex with lots of men (which she apparently didn't like). An undamaged Ryan might have given him a race he probably would have beaten Ryan but it likely would have been a race.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:13 PM
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15. Sure, Ryan was a reasonable candidate until the scandal broke. But the Rs
still had time to put someone else on the ballot once Ryan was exposed, and the best they could come up with was--Alan Keyes!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:26 PM
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16. there wasn't a lot of time
and they had their own problems with a governor heading to jail and a secretary of state also in deep do do. Thanks to Blago we might be in the same fix to replace Obama.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:38 PM
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19. Ryan quit the race a montha and two days before Obama's July 27th keynote.
Wikipedia has the timeline, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Illinois,_2004 .

Technically, there was no new Republican candidate for Senator from Illinois on the evening of the keynote. Alan Keyes was not officially offered the job until very early August, though on keynote night Keyes may have been known in the media as the top contender.

You are correct; there were less than three months left until the November 2nd election when the US Senate ballot line finally was set in Illinois.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:41 PM
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22. I am surprised that they didn't recruit
Bob Michael as a place holder. He would have been their best shot at at least keeping the race within reason.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:35 PM
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18. Ryan sex scandal joke
RNC to Jack Ryan: "Will any embarrassing details come out in your divorce papers?"

RYAN: "Absolutely not."

RNC: "OK. We will back you."

Jeri Ryan alleges that Jack want to have sex with her in front of other people at sex clubs. (Not, as previously posted, to have her have sex with others while he watched.)

RNC: "wtf??"

RYAN: "When you said embarrassing details, I thought you meant stuff like starting an unjustified war and killing thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. I thought you meant stuff like stealing elections by rigging the unverifiable vote counting machinery. I thought you meant stuff like suspending habeas corpus and ignoring the Constitution. . . . I didn't know you meant stuff about my private life that doesn't and wouldn't affect my job performance and isn't anyone's business anyway."
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:39 PM
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28. Actually, there is the Star Trek connection as well.
Remember the character 7 of 9 on Star Trek: Voyager? Well, she is Jeri Ryan, wife of Republican Senate candidate Ryan. So if you think about it, it was she who was blunt in those divorce records which led to his downfall, thereby paving a clear path for Barack Obama. So I just think we ought to thank the Borg for Barack Obama becoming President. (7 of 9 is part Borg)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:28 PM
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17. Dick Durbin
Barack Obama was "discovered" by Dick Durbin who recommended Barack to John Kerry for the keynote.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:40 PM
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21. True - few people are even aware how close Kerry, Durbin and Obama have been over the years.
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 05:46 PM by blm
Durbin was Kerry's liaison to DNC during 2004 and Durbin witnessed firsthand the problems at the DNC when it came to collapsed party infrastructure and lack of diligence by the Clinton loyalists who were running the entire show back then, as they had for over a decade by that point.

Since then, Daschle, Durbin and Kerry have been certain that breaking the grip the Clintons had on the party was a crucial step to reclaiming the party. Dean as Chair of the party was a key FIRST step. Using their own national networks they were able to put them into play supporting Obama which greatly enabled Obama's campaign to out organize Clinton in so many states.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:39 PM
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20. It was my President...
...President Kerry. (And, yes, I think he won.) :patriot:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 09:59 PM
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24. Kick
:kick:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:30 PM
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25. Fate and Destiny. NT
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:34 PM
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26. Senator Durbin suggested it to John Kerry or one of Kerry's aides.....
far as I know.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:08 PM
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29. That is why the meme that Obama is not passionate is just a trap
by the status quo.

Listen to this one, when you have a chance. It is also full of reasoned passion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris&feature=related
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