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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:04 PM
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Lipstick on a pig- HOLY CRAP! Obama line at VA speech!
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 05:34 PM by Curtland1015
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig!

It's an old saying, and he never mentioned Palin... but the crowd certainly figured that's what he meant. They went nuts!

Haw!

*AGAIN: PLEASE NOTE!!! He wasn't referring to Sarah Palin directly in anyway, just their unchanging policies! It was the crowd that took the "Palin" meaning from it!!!
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:05 PM
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1. KICK
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:05 PM
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2. no amount of lipstick
is gonna get that pig to the prom.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:15 PM
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17. The Patriot Missile System

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:55 PM
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93. that's lipsticking it to them! nt
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:57 PM
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97. AND...you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!!!! LOL n/t
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:26 PM
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131. Man. That is a GREAT line!!!! Would make a fabulous t-shirt.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:05 PM
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3. Yes!
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:06 PM
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4. LMAO!! Are you serious?
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:06 PM
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5. What's the difference between Cheney and Palin?
Lipstick!

Yes! We need more of that, Senator!
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:46 PM
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78. no doubt
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:56 PM
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94. At least in public! n/t
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:07 PM
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6. Must have the clip - hopefully it shows up on youtube. LMAO, Obama is going "there". nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:16 PM
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19. I am recording it now.....
... so that IS a new one! That's even better than "moose shooter."
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:20 PM
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26. Fantastic! Can't wait!! Geez, I'm drooling thinking about LOL!! nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:34 PM
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134. My cap is here...
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:41 PM
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137. Thankies! nt
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:07 PM
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7. now that is what I
call a good attack! GO Obama!!!!

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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:08 PM
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8. Just let the R's whine about that one!
Would they then be labelling the pork princess a pig?
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:09 PM
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9. WOW, Obama proves that you really can make a silk purse
out of a sows ear! Thanks for sharing. :applause:
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:09 PM
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10. I'm happy to see Obama sticking it to the Repugs.
Lord knows they deserve it. And far more.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:09 PM
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11. Barack said that? That was friggin funny.
Hey, she bought up the lipstick thing first.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:14 PM
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15. And compared herself to an animal
:evilgrin:
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:09 PM
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12. Wow! This also brings to mind a disturbing image of McCain with lipstick...
since he is the presidential candidate (which all of the news media seems to have forgotten).
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:11 PM
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13. Hope he uses it from now on.
Heh
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:12 PM
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14. go Obama!
although you know someone is going to say it's "sexist".
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:16 PM
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20. Not me! I love this man more and more every day.
I was just thinking I'd really like to see the Dems nail the Republicans for once - just get outright nasty. I admire the way Obama goes right to the line but never quite steps over.

Can't wait for the debates.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:20 PM
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27. see posts #22 and 23 n/t
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM
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33. He's taking jabs. Biden's doing it too. Think boxing. nt
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:43 AM
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148. excellent metaphor!
And I usually don't get sports references!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:23 PM
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38. A whole LOT of someones, probably.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:26 PM
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45. it's not SEXIST ..... it's SEXY ..... go get 'em! prrrrrrrr. nt
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:12 PM
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114. haha!! go Nigel Tufnel!! n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:15 PM
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16. Oink!
:rofl:
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:15 PM
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18. And if the Pig's ugly... it stays ugly....
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:18 PM
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21. Ah, hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what I'm talkin' about....
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:19 PM
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22. You actually think this is a good thing? Geez....
If he really said this and if it was clear he meant Palin, it's a cheap, demeaning, nasty, unrewarding comment that is offensive to at least one woman (me).
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:21 PM
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28. He was discussing how McCain and Palin pretend they're about change...
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM by Curtland1015
When they're doing the same things over and over. The "lipstick on a pig" saying works perfectly in that regard.

It's just that when he said it, the way the crowd went nuts, you know they took more from it than what he said. That's what was so hilarious about it.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:23 PM
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37. I think the connection is made because of Palin's pit bull/lipstick comment...
Whether he intended that connection to be made is what is unclear to me. If he intended it, I think it's a major mistake.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:27 PM
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49. So she's allowed to lie about Obama, smear him, say he never fought for this country, etc.,
but Obama can't use a version of her own words against her?
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:31 PM
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61. I didn't say that. I said (in various ways) it's not a good decision...
...IF he was purposely trying to make the connection between Palin and pig. It's beneath him (or should be) to do that. It's bad politics. The next riff on freeper sites: Obama calls Palin a pig. Doesn't matter if it's true. It'll be said that he did that and it'll turn off a lot of people. It's a dumb move with no positive reward.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:36 PM
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68. It's a well-known phrase. It is NOT calling her a pig. It's calling HER policies the same as the
Bush admin.'s policies.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:29 PM
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56. Tough shit... I tired of dirty pigs and their
lipstick.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:53 AM
Response to Reply #37
143. You are a really nice person.
It's just we have a press war that is stacked against us.

So if he can score a hit like this without it being able to be "proven" they will feel the sting without being able to do a thing.

Their side is lying through their teeth and the media is eating it up.

As awful as it sounds. It's the truth about their behavior.

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM
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31. He's referring to the fact that she revels in pork barrel politics
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:28 PM
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53. She asked for it, comparing herself to a pitbull with lipstick.
You know what they say about staying out of the kitchen if you can't handle heat........
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:30 PM
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57. This will be offensive to many women , I suspect
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #57
132. Only the vapid shitheads that like Palin.
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:33 PM
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I'm curious, why do you consider the line sexist?
She compared herself to a pitbull wearing lipstick. I think she opened the door to the comment, especially considering her supposedly anti-pork stance.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:40 PM
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73. No one is being called a pig unless its the republican brand
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:03 PM
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104. Yes.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:35 PM
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122. No. nt
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #22
113. Oh shut UP already!
Seriously, why would you take offense with this? Unless you had no ability to comprehend the saying and WHY he said it.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:50 AM
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142. Don't think of her as a woman. Think of her as a rethug.
Besides maybe he meant McCain or that Larry guy who is trying to plead not guilty to trying to pick up a police officer in the john at MSP Airport.

There are a lot of pigs in their party.

AND a lot of pork.


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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #142
150. exactly. nt
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wolverinez Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:56 AM
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144. Then modern pres elections aren't for you.
nm
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:44 AM
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149. She's the one who compared herself to a dog.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:19 PM
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23. Deleted message
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:21 PM
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29. No, it isn't obvious
It's a phrase that's been around a long, long time. It's only sexist if you read "Palin" for "pig." And that's your own individual projection.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:25 PM
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43. It's not a projection made in a vacuum ... it comes on the heels of Pallin's lipstick remark.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:27 PM
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50. It's an old saying. Cheney used it himself last election cycle.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #23
40. Thanks Rush
:rofl:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:24 PM
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41. Fuck off, freeper trash
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #23
47. Yeah, sure, nice 5 posts there. Thanks for the concern.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:34 PM
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #64
76. I'm not a guy. I have a vagina, was initially a hill supporter but now support our nominee.
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 05:45 PM by nc4bo
You have 2 choices: Palin/Mccain or Obama/Biden.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #64
86. There are thousands of former Clinton supporters here
who'll be voting for O.

If you can't bring yourself to do so, don't.

Not that I believe your story to begin with...

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:29 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA. No. That's no implosion. That's Obama opening
a big ol' can of WHOOP ASS on her.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #23
82. No, troll.... it is a very common saying..... but you knew that
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:48 PM
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83. Implode? LOL
He's riffing on her comment comparing herself to a pit bull. Guess she was just being sexist, too.

Your concern is duly noted. troll/off
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:48 PM
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84. Thanks for your concern n/t
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:19 PM
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24. Call her a liar, but watch this type of comment as it'll be called sexist and insulting.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #24
36. yep - I said the same thing above.
it's b.s. though. Does anyone here really NOT think that Palin is pig-like? Not because she's a woman, but because her views are. People are focused on the superficial and not the substance. I think that's what he's trying to say here.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:26 PM
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46. From the woman who is a self-proclaimed "pitbull" in lipstick
and whom the GOP wants to promote as their barracuda, a pretty ugly, snaggletoothed fish?

If they can't stand the heat and project an ages-old comment onto her, then they need to get out of the proverbial kitchen.

And these hypersensitive asshats want to keep their fingers on red button.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:13 PM
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115. "... GOP wants to promote as their barracuda, a pretty ugly, snaggletoothed fish?"
LOL, that reminds me of a saying I used to hear in Texas: "Tell the truth, snaggletooth!" :D
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:33 PM
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63. Nope, she made the 'lipstick' reference herself as if it were cute.
She can't have it both ways. By the same standard, the 'hockey mom' remark was equally sexist.

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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. If I call myself a pit bull and you call me a pig, who's being offensive?
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:36 PM
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69. On ABC News just now, Obama spokesperson says he didn't mean Palin.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #66
135. Palin insulted pit bulls everywhere when she compared herself to them.
I've known pit bulls, I've worked with pit bulls, and you, Sarah, are no pit bull.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:20 PM
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25. Awesome. He knows when to play light, and when to play rough.. well done!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:21 PM
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30. Pit Bull owners should have a lipstick contest.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM
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32. LOL!! Perfect. Do you have a link, by any chance, of the footage?
would LOVE to see that one! :thumbsup:
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM
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34. the man knows how to trash talk.
Let's see what happens now!
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:22 PM
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35. I love it. She is a pig.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:24 PM
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39. Pearls before swine!
:rofl:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:25 PM
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42. HOLY SHIT... he really said that?
:rofl: :rofl: OMG...

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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:26 PM
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44. Where is the video????
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:26 PM
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48. GOPHERS wouldn't think twice about throwing out a line like that.
But why do I think he's going to get crucified?

Nevertheless, THAT's a terse soundbyte :-) Go Obama!
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:27 PM
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51. Please, remember, as I said above, he never actually...
He never said he was talking about Sarah Palin specifically before he said that.

That's just what the crowd took from it. I'll leave it up to you to decide if he was referring just to her or not.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:29 PM
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54. You need to change part of your OP and describe the context
before the time runs out
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:31 PM
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58. Delete - Dupe
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 05:32 PM by Curtland1015
Dupe
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:31 PM
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59. Delete - Dupe
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 05:32 PM by Curtland1015
Dupe
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:31 PM
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60. I will... but even now it says up there that it wasn't what he said...
...just what the crowd to from it.

But oh well, I'll add a bit more to clarify that point.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #60
92. thanks

I could see some were getting confused
context and preciseness counts when quoting our candidate
Good job
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:27 PM
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52. A Republican with lipstick is still a republican!
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:29 PM
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55. Yeah!
John McBush and Sarah Palin's policies are pigged in their very nature. Two lying and corrupt republicans.
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:33 PM
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62. I had hoped Obama would stay above the cess pool. This will
backfire.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. you again?
talk about backfiring. :rofl:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #62
72. Its a comment on change or dressing up
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #72
90. OP says it referred to Palin. that is what I was commenting on.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #62
126. You can troll off now
thanks for your concern...
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:36 PM
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67. Gobama!!!!
:applause:

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nyccitizen Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:38 PM
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70. Mark my words: this will backfire big time...

The GOP will take it out of context and say that Obama called Palin a "pig" and use it to smear him and call him sexist. I assure you this will happen. I can see drudge now:

Obama: Palin "a pig"
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #70
74. So? If the lipstick fits...
btw....she is a pig.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #70
77. And that's when Hillary and Boxer should come out.
And blast the GOP again. Loudly.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #77
99. *THIS* is the type of situation where the Dems need to get Obama's back, and consistently
Whoever might be questioned about it needs to explain that:

1. Obama was clearly talking about McCain/Palin trying to repackage their theme of change;
2. Obama used two different analogies to describe it;
3. "Lipstick on a pig" has been around for a long, long time and has always meant that very thing.

The surrogates need to be concise and consistent...IF they're bothered with the question.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #70
80. So what
Fight.

Your response should be: "Aw, c'mon. get a sense of humor!"

Good for the gander, good for the goose.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #70
81. then he can talk about how she fed at the earmark trough
before she was against it
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #81
136. And kept the money.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #70
128. Another one
gosh, they all over the place.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:39 PM
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71. And the crowd goes wild
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:43 PM
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75. niiice.
Gloves off.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:47 PM
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79. good one O man! nt
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:49 PM
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85. LOL! If the shoe fits...
Glad he is finally fighting back.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #85
96. It's the exact size and has a comfy fit!
OINK OINK PIGGY PORKY PALIN
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:50 PM
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87. Observation: All the people "concerned" about this have very low post counts....


Just noticing a pattern, that's all.
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #87
95. Maybe they are trying inject of sanity into this thread. I can not
see it as a good thing when this Sen. Obama tries to be funny and it backfires.
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #95
101. You have consistently posted negative messages about how Obama is getting everything wrong
so don't be surprised if others posting here ignore you.
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:01 PM
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102. You are broad brushing my posts.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #95
106. Let me guess... you thought Failin's "lipstick on a pit bull" joke was HILARIOUS
didn't you?

It absolutely reeks in here. It reeks of flopsweat and freeper fear.

I FUCKIN LOVE IT!
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #95
111. Look pal, I've had just about enough of your feeble attempts
to inject crap all over this board.

If you're shooting for a 'posting prize,' at this point it looks like you owe the McSame Camp at least 20 bucks and apology.






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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:05 AM
Response to Reply #95
146. Bull.
Nobody breathing is ignorant of the phrase, "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig".

Backfire my ass. This isn't an issue, no matter how hard you try to make it one.
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falcon97 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #87
110. I've got a really low post count
and I think it is effing awesome. It's about time a Dem candidate took a stand against the Rethugs. I wish he had been talking about Palin at the time. It puts their make believe Sarah Palin biography squarely on the table. Now we need Bill to call it a fairy tale!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #87
118. Although I don't agree with their viewpoints, I try to remember
That they have less exposure to the groupthink that goes on at DU.

Personally, I'm thrilled to see Obama go there. He needs to learn that it's not 'wrong' to fight back. He can hit back HARD without being 'dirty' or 'nasty.' I don't think he realizes that. He's still trying to use facts and nuance, which misses a big part of the picture. If he is calling Palin a pig, he just got my attention.

I'm sure anyone who objects has never called anyone of the opposite sex anything unpleasant, right? They're all pure as the driven snow. ;)
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #87
139. I have been here since January 2001
And I'm concerned.

Republicans are damned good at dirty-ass politics. They will run with this. It was a needless gaffe.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:50 PM
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88. Observation: All the people "concerned" about this have very low post counts....


Just noticing a pattern, that's all.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #88
98. I don't.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #88
100. I'm sure it's TOTALLY coincidental.
:P

They can shove it. It was a BRILLIANT line and she stupidly rolled out the red carpet for him with her idiotic 'pit bull' joke.

:bounce:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:52 PM
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89. K and R GO OBAMA
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 05:53 PM
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91. I think there's way too many damn double standards going on...
Obama gets called (deliberately if I may add) all sorts of slime, lies told about him and his policies and history, borderline racist slurs and not one word from the piggie party in apology.

Yet, when he says one little thing at a freakin townhall - we're (using the term generally) instantly putting up apologies and begging for forgiveness from these hypocritical asshats.

I really hate the way things are right now.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:02 PM
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103. Sludge sent his know-nothing minions to the politico thread...and this one apparently.
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:06 PM
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105. Oh for... look, I just thought it was amusing that the crowd thought of
Sarah Palin when he said the damn line, I didn't want to ignite a **** storm!

Can we just lock this thing up or something?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #105
107. Ah no... this is good... you're gettin 'em crawlin outta the woodwork.
:thumbsup:
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:08 PM
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108. I think he's used that saying before there was a pitbull Palin. n/t
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 06:09 PM by Fla Dem
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:08 PM
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109. I love it! It's exactly what I've been thinking.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:12 PM
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112. Lipstick on a pig is exactly what the GOP is doing--same old shitty policies, but
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 06:12 PM by wienerdoggie
new slogans and new pretty faces to dress it up. It's not Obama's fault that this woman decided to use animal and lipstick references for herself. What, is he never supposed to use a common saying again because of her?
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AkFemDem Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:18 PM
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116. Better line would be "Put lipstick on a PORKER and SHE is still a pig"
That's right, I'll say it. It isn't sexist. It's just the truth and everyone knows it, even the republicans. :-)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:20 PM
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117. He was probably referring to the repigs in general...
and of course some people will take what they want from it.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:22 PM
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119. GObama!!!!!!
That's telling it like it is! :bounce:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:22 PM
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120. Now we're talking!! Slam the pig with lipstick!
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 06:52 PM by DCBob
Figuratively of course. :)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:25 PM
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121. Haha - I bet he didn't even realize what he said until he said it.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. If I hear an apology, or I reject and denounce my comments--
I'm going to go stick my head in an oven...
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:49 PM
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124. FYI: This is on FudgeReport.


OBAMA: 'LIPSTICK ON A PIG, STILL A PIG'






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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 06:49 PM
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125. That's one of my favorite sayings.
The GOPers have been doing that a lot lately.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:19 PM
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127. Rookie mistake. He'd best hope the networks don't cover this.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:21 PM
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129. CakeGrrl said it best: Dems need to close ranks on this.
Whoever might be questioned about it needs to explain that:

1. Obama was clearly talking about McCain/Palin trying to repackage their theme of change;
2. Obama used two different analogies to describe it;
3. "Lipstick on a pig" has been around for a long, long time and has always meant that very thing.

The surrogates need to be concise and consistent...IF they're bothered with the question.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:25 PM
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130. Lipstick on a pig is a saying that has been around alot longer than Queenie.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:33 PM
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133. Barack...if Michelle doesn't want to have any more children...
I WILL BEAR ONE FOR YOU!!!!! (and I don't even have a uterus!)
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S n o w b a l l Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:54 PM
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138. McCain used it in the same context against Hillary...
<<McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's health-care plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.>>

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10...

So remember this and use it when the RW starts screaming sexism.

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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:28 AM
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140. THAT'S MY MAN!!
That's south side Chicago politics in action! Fuckin A!!!!
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:40 AM
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141. Drudge/RW media are pushing it as though he called Palin a pig. Obama made a mistake with this one.
Sure, we KNOW what he meant. Anyone who isn't a complete lemming would understand he was making an analogy to GOP policies. But the American electorate is largely a bunch of lemmings who will accept the news exactly how it's packaged and reported--and this 'story' is being packaged to paint Obama as making a sexist, insensitive comment.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 04:00 AM
Response to Reply #141
145. No you are making the mistake. You think we are that stupid?
If so, this would be proof that the media is in cahoots with the McCain Campaign. I've just sent what's below to those in my giant "friendly" press black book. Sent it to too many for it to be allowed to be twisted. But thank you for your concern. :eyes:

Obama talking about McCain stealing the Obama motto of Change - The Pig Comment in context
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

McCain talking about Hillary's Health Care plan - The Pig Comment in context
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxfEHt9hfHQ



Via Media Matters:

In a September 9 post on The Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire blog, reporter Amy Chozick baselessly asserted that Sen. Barack Obama's statement that "ou can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig" "played on Palin's joke during the Republican National Convention that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom was lipstick." Chozick provided no evidence for this assertion, and, in fact, Obama did not mention Palin in at least the 65 words preceding his "lipstick on a pig" comment. Indeed, his preceding comments consisted of what he described as a "list" of Sen. John McCain's policies that Obama said were no different from President Bush's. Moreover, the expression Obama used is common in political rhetoric. As Chozick herself noted in an "update" to her post, McCain reportedly used the same "common expression" in reference to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health-care proposal. Obama has also reportedly used it in the past.

Linking to a separate report on Obama's comments, conservative Internet gossip Matt Drudge placed the words "OBAMA: 'LIPSTICK ON A PIG, STILL A PIG' " under a picture of Palin.

A video clip posted on YouTube contains part of Obama's comments leading up to the "lipstick on a pig" expression:

OBAMA: Let's just list this for a second. John McCain says he's about change, too. Except -- and so I guess his whole angle is, "Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health-care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and Karl Rove-style politics. We're really gonna shake things up in Washington." That's not change. That's just calling some -- the same thing, something different. But you know, you can -- you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200809090026

The McCain camp has jumped on the baseless 'sexism' charge, but perhaps they all need a lesson on the internetts, and a reminder about a little tool called YouTube. In October of 2007 while in DesMoines, Iowa, McCain spoke of Hillary Clinton's health care plan:

"My friends, we are approaching a 'perfect storm' of problems that, if not addressed by the next president, will cause our health-care system to implode," McCain said in using a Teleprompter to deliver his proposal.

"I believe Americans want to be part of a system that offers high quality care, that respects their individual dignity and is available at reasonable cost," the Arizona senator said. "Unfortunately, the American health care system as it is currently structured fails this test."

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's health-care plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10...

And if that's not enough to shut the McCainbots up, maybe refreshing their memory with McCain and his supporters discussing 'How do we beat the bitch?'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XBlxvA7AA




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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:03 AM
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147. Sadly, the posts in this thread show that a lot of DUers think he was talking about Palin
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 05:03 AM by cui bono
and are happy about that. *sigh*

This thread is very disappointing.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 08:48 AM
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151. McCain/Palin is no change only worse!
loved the lipstick line!
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