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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:14 PM
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"So sambo beat the bitch?" Sarah Palin
Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean

by Charley James

So Sambo beat the bitch!

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obamas win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrats primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.

It was kind of disgusting, Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the lower 48 about life near the North Pole.
Then, almost with a sigh, she added, But thats just Alaska.

Racial and ethnic slurs may be just Alaska and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.
Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N-Fetch-It, darkie musical swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaskas Aboriginal people as Arctic Arabs how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description as well as the more colourful mukluks along with the totally unimaginative f**king Eskimos, according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article.

But being openly racist is only the tip of the Palin iceberg. According to Alaskans interviewed for this article, she is also vindictive and mean. Were talking Rove mean and Nixon vindictive.

>>>>snip


Link from the LA Progressive Newspaper:
http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-... -racist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean/
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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1. This doesn't surprise me.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:08 PM
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138. Me, either. It's more like a confirmation of what the GOP went with. n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:13 PM
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147. Everything we'd learned about her pointed to this.
Her own performance at the RNC indicated this, imo.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:42 PM
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184. She's Dominionist Barbie with White Supremacist Accessories.
John McCain has ruined himself with this choice and for good.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:48 PM
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347. Cariboo Barbie after a bath in the political slime pool evolves more "white" than before.
:mad:
:puke:
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:46 AM
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386. Coke-Head Barbie in the Lush Rimbaugh mold
Talks fast, lies her ass off, bad parenting skills, obsessed with appearance and still comes off sloppy, racist/rude, too head-fucked for normal conversation. Has to be the center of attention. Drug head mentality similar to Rimbuagh and Ann Coulter. COCAINE - COCAINE - COCAINE - COCAINE - COCAINE.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:21 AM
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401. DUZY worthy! LOL n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:06 PM
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215. palin already stated she was a female pitbull..heavy
on the bullshit in her acceptance speech. Also showed the World what a bad liar she is and how community organizing means less than zero to her a$$.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:31 PM
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231. Except pitbulls are color blind. Guess there is more of a difference than lipstick.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:11 PM
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422. !! Perfect response
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:07 AM
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355. Hey, let's not be derogatory towards animals that will take on a bear to save their owner.
http://www.chako.org/dogblog/forums/486/ShowPost.aspx

or various other acts of heroism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdY9Z5ub9xw



Palin is no heroic pit bull, but a b**ch in a pit scrambling to win and ripping whatever she can get her teeth on into shreds.

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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:11 PM
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216. Me either, I can't wait to see what else comes out!!!
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:53 PM
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349. I can't say I'm surprised either....
but, isn't Todd eskimo?
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:22 AM
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368. Part, appearently
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:19 PM
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444. Supposedly part Yup'ik
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:14 AM
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393. BUT, is it true? Remember the last false rumor, just last week.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:19 AM by L. Coyote
On edit! That was this week! Oh wow, it has been a long week!

---------------------
That one flopped fast. Maybe they just needed a new one.

The Sarah Palin Smokescreen
from The Nation:
posted by Katrina vanden Heuvel on 09/04/2008 @ 11:58am
DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


"Here's the deal: Palin is the latest G.O.P. distraction," Bob Herbert wrote in a New York Times op-ed on Tuesday. "She's meant to shift attention away from the real issue of this campaign--the awful state of the nation after eight years of Republican rule. The Republicans are brilliant at distractions."

Herbert's right on target. Barack Obama honed in on that point in Denver too, "If you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things."

On cue, Sarah Palin attempted to paint an absurd caricature of Obama in her speech at the Republican Convention last night: "What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer is to make government bigger ... take more of your money ... give you more orders from Washington ... and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world."

More than anything, this election should be about the big issues of our time--ending a disastrous war, restoring America's reputation in the world and building an economy that works for more than just the very rich. The challenge for Democrats is to frame these issues in a way that connects with traditional American and progressive values, exposes Republican callousness and extremism, and in doing so trumps the GOP's political marketing which cynically and cleverly plays on symbolism. As George Lakoff wrote, "Just arguing the realities, the issues, the hard truths should be enough in times this bad, but the political mind and its response to symbolism cannot be ignored..... Democrats, in addition, need to call an extremist an extremist: to shine a light on the shared anti-democratic ideology of McCain and Palin, the same ideology shared by Bush and Cheney. They share values antithetical to our democracy." .......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/354368
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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2. WTF?!!!!!!
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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Holy hell!
*jaw drops*
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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ok. Someone is trying to kill me this week. Between this and the Lynn Wesmoreland uppity comment,
I'm becoming a rage-a-holic.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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21. And they're gonna get away with it
because nobody has her saying this shit on tape.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:21 PM
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35. The closer it gets to the election..
you will hear more because they are afraid and desperate..
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:29 PM
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228. My jaw is still stuck on the top of my desk
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:31 PM by wryter2000
My only hope is that this shit comes back to bite them in the butt, big time. It probably won't Wesmoreland, but it could sure as hell be the anvil around Palin's racist neck.

I can't even bear to call her Caribou Barbie. Too mean to Barbie.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:01 AM
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352. Barbie at least could be smart.
She was an astronaut, a doctor and a whole bunch of other stuff--while at the same time being a Princess AND a fashion model. Pretty damned impressive!
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:25 AM
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403. Don't have to call her Caribou Barbie. Sasquatch Sarah fits better, don't you think? LOL
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #228
427. Not to mention the caribou. nt
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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3. Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean.
All considered admirable qualities among RepubliCONs.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:58 PM
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121. You're right, she's perfect for the republican party. MY
personal thoughts are that the republicans should be removed form our society and given their own ocuntry........maybe Florida across to AZ, call it their reservation, or jesus land.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:01 PM
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209. I've often had that same thought
give 'em their own country. Fence off the borders so they can't get out. Then let them go to it. And I've often wondered what that country would turn into after five or ten years. Afghanistan under the Taliban? Germany under Hitler? A huge Jim Jones cult?

Whatever it was, it probably wouldn't be pretty.

I'll bet one of the first things they'd have to deal with would be what to do with unwanted infants. No birth control allowed. No abortion. They'd be overrun with babies, and I can bet that out and out infanticide would be the first order of business.

After that, things would really get nasty. Maybe they would end up destroying themselves totally...


one can only dream...sigh....





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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #209
256. They could be completely homogenous ...
... but would then begin identifying and exaggerating minimal differences, and separating into warring factions. It's in their DNA.
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Shoedogg Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:57 PM
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297. I'll tell you exactly what would happen...
They'd start building weapons. I sure don't want to live near that country.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #209
313. I agree with you they deserve themselves and the hell that
comes with it.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:35 PM
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338. They'd build their very own fence--what do you think the Mexican Border Wall is about? nt
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:28 AM
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357. I'm thinking Devil's Island, French Guiana.
The French would probably be willing to work a deal with us.

You're right, it wouldn't be pretty, but the rest of the world would be insulated from it.

Nice dream...what a wonderful world it would be!
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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:00 PM
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Please, please, please. Don't include New Mexico in your Republicountry.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #121
266. Move them all into Death Valley
And that's where to build a very large electrified fence.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #121
306. Weren't they all going to move to South Carolina or something?
Anywhere where they will be safely away from normal American humans is fine. Those people at that convention are clearly sick in the head. I'm heartsick to realize that they are "Americans".
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #121
319. Personally I'd rather give them their own planet...
preferably Uranus or Neptune.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:11 PM
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426. You might want them on Uranus
but I don't want them on mine.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:55 PM
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350. How about Alaska?
I hear their Governor wants to secede anyway.
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:32 AM
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358. I considered this too
but decided that I just couldn't do that to the indigenous people there. That would yank at my heart too much, they don't deserve it.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:15 PM
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218. yep
I think it's an open secret that the Republican party is the party for and of racists. I would imagine that the people who are disgusted by this comment from Palin either would have never voted for Obama or any Democrat anyway, or will simply ignore it, because they're rich and want a government that caters to the wealthy.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:23 AM
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402. Get on board! It's now "Yup! Yup!" LOL n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:01 PM
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315. Really. No wonder those people love her.
She has every nasty quality so admired by Republicans.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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4. Jesus Christ, is there an audio of her actually saying that?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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15. Story just broke

I hope we get more info on this, but it wouldn't surprise me knowing her background
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:23 PM
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45. Two eye witnesses would be just as good, Palin would have to deny it
...then be caught in a lie about saying it.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:27 PM
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58. As Lyndon Johnson once said
"It don't matter if it's true. I just want to hear the sonofabitch deny it!"

If this gets legs, run it.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:19 PM
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155. "She would effectively gut enforcement of federal hate crimes" SF Chronicle
Palin has taken no position on immigration, affirmative action, job and housing discrimination, school re-segregation, police-minority community relations and racial disparities in the criminal justice system.


During the 2006 gubernatorial campaign, she told the Eagle Forum that she opposed expanded hate crime legislation. She branded all heinous crimes as hate crimes. This view of what constitutes a hate crime goes squarely against the wide body of law and public policy that defines a hate crime as a willful act or threat based solely on racial, gender or religious animus. By lumping common crimes, no matter how repulsive, into the hate crime category, Palin would effectively gut enforcement of federal hate crime laws.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/0...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:46 PM
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188. Please Read the Whole Article in Both Stories n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #58
255. What a great line. Thanks.
He made one huge blunder, but at least had the integrity to recognize and regret it.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:51 PM
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305. LBJ was right on this.
I'm not normally a fan of LBJ, but he knew how to get things done in the Beltway.

We have to do whatever it takes. Our nation is already half-broken as it is. We can't take four or eight more years of Republican warmongering and theft from the commons.

We absolutely must defeat them, using every tactic available.

I'm all for character assassination if that's what it takes to win.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:51 AM
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365. As much as it sucks
It's the only way to teach the bastards a lesson. They have to be hurt and hurt badly. If our side can slime and destroy them personally and politically - as KKKarl Rove has done gleefully for his whole career - then we must do it. Whatever can be dug up is fair game until they cry "uncle" and put an end to it.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:52 AM
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387. 
N/T
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:15 PM
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5. Oh My EFFING God
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:16 PM by BeyondGeography
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:16 PM
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6. You've got to be kidding me?
Where's the media outrage over this?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:16 PM
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7. I wish I could say this is surprising..but she just looked like she was enjoying
giving her horrid speech too much..

I just hope this hits the media the way it should.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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16. Just one person's word, won't hit the media
Besides, America's Sweetheart would never say that, because she's a great gal.
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:24 PM
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47. 1 to investigate leads to 2 who confirm
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:25 PM by the Sundance Kid
and all we really need do is get Palin to have to deny it.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:22 PM
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224. Yeah, she really had a gleam in her eye
with her "I guess being a community organizer is kinda like being a mayor...without the responsibilities!" This from a woman who has never been to south Chicago. She actually hasn't been to very many places in our country. I loathe her for that comment about Obama. This is a man who could have walked out of the Ivy League into a $250,000 job. But, he didn't. He went into the poorer neighborhoods and worked tirelessly.
And that meant nothing to this shallow woman.
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:16 PM
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8. Yikes!
:wow:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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9. Unless you have it on tape, it's not true
Sorry, that's how it works in our fucked up society.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:32 PM
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68. Or more than one witness...
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:32 PM by Eric J in MN
...or a witness who isn't anonymous.

One witness who doesn't want her full name used isn't much.
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CashGap Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #68
148. I was there...
Weren't you? C'mon people, get creative!!!
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:39 PM
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344. I was there... And she shot an old lady in the head right after she said it!
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CashGap Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:40 PM
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452. With a gun from a gun show
nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:39 PM
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Tape, a cell phone video, or at least one person willing to come forward with his or her full name
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:39 PM by slackmaster
:shrug:
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:12 PM
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321. Couldn't we pool our resources together to encourage her to come forward?
I only say this as an inducement might be required because this lady's job future would FOREVER would be negated in Alaska if she had the courage to speak out against this "Sister Sarah."
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:25 AM
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377. If you think Neocons only threaten people's job future, then I wonder why DU exists
Ever hear of "Ghost Detainees"? Maher Arar? Jose Padilla? CIA Black Sites?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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10. Isn't that a prerequisite for being in today's GOP?
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:38 PM by DesertedRose
No wonder McCain picked her. Two peas in a pod.

Cheney in a skirt. It really needs to be verified, though, before it gets too much traction and makes our side look foolish
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:43 AM
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383. "Cheney in a skirt", that would make a great bumper sticker...
...Or, Cheney in LIPSTICK!!
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:56 AM
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398. yesterday saw a pic of snake cheney and one of Palin side by side


they both had snake cheney's sneer

can't remember what site I was on.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:31 AM
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461. McCain didn't pick her...
there was an article that said McCain wanted Ridge or Lieberman for VP.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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oh this is just great.
why am i not surprised?
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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11. Damn. Not unexpected, but damn.
How reliable is this paper? I've never heard of it before (but then I'm in Chicago by way of New York so papers of the West Coast are unknown to me.)
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:58 AM
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380. i'm from LA and can't recall seeing it
i believe it though; it makes sense.
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President Decider Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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12. I would love to see NBC, CBS, and ABC pick this up and go up there to interview this lady ..
Palin would be done in a NY minuite....
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:50 PM
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107. The only way would be to disguise her voice and put her face in shadow.
She won't let her last name be used. This kind of word-of-mouth allegation is always suspect in my mind.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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13. If there isn't a name of a person
(and first names only don't count) that isn't willing to be interviewed, don't touch this. This will backfire big time and as much as I want to see the cream puff gutted and skinned, racism is a very ugly thing to accuse someone of with no proof.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:19 PM
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154. We already know she's racist by her attack on "community organizers"
(well they must be n-----s organizing n-----s in the city, right?) accompanied by the "pit bull" reference, and the membership in a racist, antisemitic church.

She was having WAAAAAYYYYYY too much fun being nasty the other night.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:31 AM
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364. The right wing are all rascist that's why they love her.God is white. She drips with it
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:17 PM
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14. holy SHIT
I can't take it anymore.....well ok maybe.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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17. Holy shit! What a nice lady she is...
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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18. Palin is doing an excellent job of uniting Hillary and Obama supporters. Uniting to take her out.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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19. Holy shit.
:grr: :grr: :grr:

FUCK YOU SARAH
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ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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20. Well, she is a buchananite.
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:21 PM
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37. this does sound like something straight out of Pat's foul mouth
I almost puked when I realized this wasn't satire
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:55 AM
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390. She said she had to fight the "good old boys"
She is a good old boy.

If you can't fight 'em, join 'em. Women who are considered to have a "great personality" because they use racist, sexist "humor" to gain access to exclusive "men's clubs," make me nauseous.

That said, without more evidence, this little anecdote will go away. Sarah Barracuda will be way more careful now that she is in the big leagues. She'll have to learn, like her new friends in Washington, to only say this sort of thing behind closed doors.



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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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22. EFFIN HELL!!!!
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:18 PM
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23. Arctic Arabs... n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:12 AM
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356. she's married to an Eskimo!
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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24. there must be a tape somewhere!
it will come out.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:51 PM
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111. why would there be...? do a lot of people tape conversations in diners?
:shrug:
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:39 PM
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181. no but if she is as racist as they state she is she has to made an
racial slur, etc in an email, on a supposedly off mic,etc
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:04 PM
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261. a 'mucaca moment' so to speak...
racist slang sinks campaigns...


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:00 PM
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298. You know, the RNC a few years back made TV with tapes they had made . . .
sexist, racist and homophobic ---

using their employees to play the roles -- insulting women, people of color, and

homosexuals in outrageous parodies --

These films were shown for a week or more --- and brought back once, at least ---

but they never seemed to create the kind of shock you'd expect to them ---

Basically, I don't think they were widely enough seen or understood --

I doubt anyone will be bringing them back to remind us of what the GOP really is --- !!!


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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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25. Holey Smokes!! I wonder what she calls the 1st Dude?
He's part Native American isn't he?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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Scott
at awkward times
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:41 PM
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91. LMAO!!!
nicely done :)
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:42 PM
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92. lol
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:22 PM
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39.  "f**king Eskimo"
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:20 PM
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159. ALLEGEDLY. I am of the considered opinion that it might just
be disinformation to fend off rumors of racism. You have to admit, it's effective.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:00 PM
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257. Never thought of that!
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:16 PM by ben_meyers
The old "claim to be part Eskimo trick" to throw them off. What won't they think of next?
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:41 PM
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289. Chief Red Pecker? (NT)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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26. Wow, Sarah Palin really *IS* a Republican! n/t
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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27. now that just about takes the cake, don't it? can I haz this viralz??
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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28. I'd like this more thoroughly investigated. (eom)
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:21 PM
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36. Agreed
Unless this can be verified somehow it won't go beyond this.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:28 PM
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335. Agree.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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29. Can this really be true???
This is so horrifying, I can scarcely believe it.... I can scarcely believe that she would utter those words. Is this LA Progressive Newspaper a reputable source do you think?

Just have no words.... none....
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:13 PM
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152. Why do you doubt it? I expected it.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:56 PM
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296. I can't say I expected it...
But sadly, I can't say I'm surprised either. I guess I just can't believe that someone would be that colossally stupid as to say something like that outright and in a public place too. It just appalls me.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:54 PM
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310. It sounds *exactly* like the Palin I have come to hate.
Who's the bitch, Barbie?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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REC this thread folks. It's a winner.
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the Sundance Kid Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:22 PM
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40. Ladies and Gents, We have a WINNAAAAAH!!!!
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:25 PM
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50. I wish this could be confirmed, but it wouldn't surprise me if true. n/t
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:19 PM
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30. Just the sort of thing to energize her base.
I wonder when the media will quit with what a rising star she is.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:20 PM
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31. Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean.
Just like Jesus!
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:20 PM
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32. What? Palin called Obama "Sambo" and Hillary "Bitch" ? This can't be for real...
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:23 PM
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46. Why not? SOMEONE'S out there thinking of them this way. Why not Sarah Barracuda?
That's exactly the reason some of these people get away with it...because they don't "look" or "seem" like the kind of people to be so ugly.

It may not be true, it may be another piece of bait meant to derail Dems, but I won't be shocked if it proves true.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:23 PM
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163. My assistant, who flirted with white supremacist culture as a younger,
more naive person, says exactly that. The really virulently racist freaks look perfectly normal and mainstream until they open their mouths, and then it's the most vile, hateful, racist and semitic hate speech you could ever imagine. She had Palin pegged as Aryan Nations a couple days ago.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:21 PM
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273. One time I went under-cover and infiltrated
a white supremacist group (long story) and the most frightening thing about them was they were so "normal" and so friendly. If you had come across these people anywhere else you would've never guessed what they really were.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:26 AM
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404. Who do you 'flirt' with being a white supremacist?
I don't know the culture too well as an African American person, but how does a white teenager wake up one morning and decide they hate negras and Jews?

Do they watch their parents and take their rhetoric to the drag the negra behind a truck level or burn a synagogue devotional level?


I always was taught to watch the reformed racist person first because outward hatred is like giving up cigarettes or cocaine. You just need to get a hit or a whiff of the stuff and you are back to having a full scale relapse.

BTW, I think Palin's associations should be drilled with confirming/verifying evidence before the media or the left jump in her a$$. Remember the gay man that said unsavory things about his relationship with Obama. It wasn't about the guy being gay or Obama being a big target for the Republicans who supported HRC. It was about putting this fool in the public eye for the spectacle of it all.


Let's have it cold before we throw a pity party.

The story confirms what I think is true about the GOP, but unless there is uncontrovertable evidence...we ain't got nuthin.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:12 PM
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146. I have relatives (to whom I don't speak anymore) who call them that n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:20 PM
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33. But... but... on Northern Exposure they all just seemed to get along so well, lovable quirky folks
Was that TV show just all a lie?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:26 PM
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55. Maurice was a bit of a racist and sexist punk
Take solace in that :-)
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:27 PM
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56. Oh yeah, did you see the actress who played the lead in Northern
Exposure?? dang it, I can't think of her name right now, but she's a repub and was told she kinda reminded people of Sarah, and she was just ecstatic about it!!! :puke: :puke: :puke: Can't remember her name, Jeannie something or other.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:39 PM
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83. Janine Turner.
I really liked her in the role, but in real life she is a horrible person.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:40 PM
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87. Janine Turner, and yes she's a repuke
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:33 PM
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233. She's a full-on fundagelical nutjob like Palin now, too
I used to have a huge crush on her when she was on Northern Exposure. Those days are gone forever. :(
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:50 PM
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245. I LOVED Northern Exposure and I mean LOVED it and a few years ago when I discovered Turner was a
Repuke, I became very upset.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:20 PM
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34. So when does this hit MSM?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:03 PM
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260. Possibly never. They'd need at least two eyewitnesses, I'd think ...
... and even then would be skeptical, and certainly still afraid of the Republican Party.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:21 PM
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38. The new GOP Ticket: Mean and Meaner!!! this is gonna get ugly.
.. she is a walking, talking Nasty-gram. No wonder McCain chose her!!! He was nicknamed McNasty in high school, and the persistent cloud over head is that she's a total witch.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:22 PM
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41. I am not surprised by this. The RNC convention looked like a KKK rally without the sheets. n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:22 PM
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42. God what trash. Thank you McCain for giving her our nation's stage.
and for the record Rove mean + Nixon vindictive = Bush. This is just an even tackier (I know, who could have imagined that was possible?) female version.

Poor Alaska. You deserve better, just like Texas did.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:29 PM
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64. My reaction exactly...Mr. "Country First"
And I felt that way before reading this.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:39 PM
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85. Yeah, me too. But this amplified it exponentially. Ugh, loathsome people. nt
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:23 PM
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43. If true, there can't be that many "Lucilles" who are waitresses in Juneau
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:23 PM
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44. OMG!!! she really said that??
:blush: :mad: :thumbsdown:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:24 PM
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48. Trailer-trash mouth Sarah Palin
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:25 PM
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49. I don't think this with bother those on the right at all. In fact, they
will probably find it very funny. Remember all the yuk-yuks when the McCain supporter asked him "How do we beat the bitch?" (HRC). As I recall, McCain and the crowd thought that was a real knee-slapper. :puke:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:36 PM
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77. If the story gets any airplay at all
It will be hugely damaging - even worse than "macaca" was for Georgie Allen.

While many Americans are racist, a lot of them prefer not to think of themselves that way and would be horrified if somebody in that important a position referred to a black man as "sambo" and a potential political rival as "bitch" - people are supposed to have tact, after all.


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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:39 PM
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84. I really hope you're right n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:43 PM
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93. ZERO class. Pukes want their stealth racism to pass in polite society. This wouldn't.
And the moderates and independents? Even the alleged "pumas"? Forget about it.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:40 PM
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90. It won't. But it will bother real human beings, some of whom are on the fence
right now.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:45 PM
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98. as I said above
"macaca" sunk George Allen, but that was on videotape.

It made a huge difference in a state that was the heart of the Confederacy...

Now, imagine that in 50 states.

However, they need more verification than somebody just saying she said those awful things. After all, I could go around and say that I slept with Sarah Palin and am the father of Bristol Palin - but, it would mean nothing if I couldn't support the charge.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:02 PM
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127. Well hey, I believe it.
(about you and Sarah.) :evilgrin:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:26 PM
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51. Frightening n/t
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:26 PM
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52. This story needs to be confirmed by at least one other source
If it's true, it will be the end of Caribou Barbie.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:56 PM
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205. No it won't.
The fundie wingnuts will be perfectly OK with it since they're so arrogant, mean-spirited and disrespectful. She's the perfect candidate to represent them.
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Caribou Barbie Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:20 PM
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334. can we call her something else?
I admit to picking this name to mock her, but I kind of like the name! :D
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:28 AM
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405. How about Sasquatch Sarah? LOL n/t
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rxdem84 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:26 PM
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53. That's why she "nailed" her speech. She was talking against
the "enemy."
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:26 PM
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54. This needs to be reported on....
MSNBC, CNN, everywhere. I am absolutely struck with hatred for John McFuck for ever bringing this unvetted, evil extremist forward for his running mate.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:28 PM
Original message
Senator Boxer called her an extremist
Last Night
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Zenmaster Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:27 PM
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It won't matter unless there's a video or audio clip.
I don't doubt it, in the slightest, but unless somebody caught her on camera or audio, its just going to be ignored and/or denied with no effect on her reputation.

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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:48 PM
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102. This is not the kind of thing one says only once.....
If she said it at the table and got big laughs from her friends at the table then it is her mind worth repeating many times. Once it is out there, others will come out and confirm her nasty (she thinks it is quirky) personality and character.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:18 PM
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270. We'll have to wait and see. But they will need the proof. n/t
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:27 PM
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57. God help us that this whacko is even on the table
We would be far better off just picking someone out of a phonebook. We seem to have a system that gets the worst to rise to the top of the Republican ticket. Bush, Cheney, Palin, McCain. Where do they find these people? Even Mitt was too nice a guy for them.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:28 PM
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59. That's a great campaign slogan for republicans
So typical of what they stand for.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:28 PM
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60. Whether this is true or not, bashing native Alaskans
is, unfortunately, a very common in Alaska. You would not believe the stupidity of some people. If you want to get the idiots riled up talk about the Alaska Native Medical Center. I mean after all why should they get free medical care. Oh yeah, because they thought it was a good idea and put the time and effort into doing it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:59 PM
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122. and never mind that the land was theirs before it belonged to anyone
who is not Native Alaskan..
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:28 PM
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61. I wish we had a tape, or the witness would come forward.
Black Republicans need to hear this.

I want Ron Christie, Tara Wall, Amy Holmes, and Joe Watkins to know what Sarah Palin actually thinks of them.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:05 PM
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263. I doubt that they'd care
While the Republican party relies on racism to get votes, I don't actually think that people like Bush and McCain are racists (Palin, on the other hand, may be). They know that racism is an effective tool to divide the poor and keep them from acting in their own best interests. This solidifies Republican power - it's all about the power. Prominent black Republicans also know that it's all about money and power - it's not like this was the first time that a prominent Republican has made an outright racist statement. Those people who choose to stay with the party know what they're getting into when they sign up.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:29 PM
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62. Does anyone else get the feeling that McCain, if president, will "accidentally" fall down the stairs
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:30 PM by Straight Shooter
In all sincerity, I can honestly see Sarah eliminating him. She is totally overshadowing him, and her ego is the most atrociously gargantuan thing I've ever witnessed in the political arena. It won't be long before she begins to rationalize that he's in her way.

edit to add: If not a fall downstairs, she'll "gaslight" him, for those familiar with the movie.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:00 PM
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123. They are already planning their version of Macbeth..McSame will be the name.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:07 PM
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136. I suspect she'll be leaving the campaign soon.
For "Family reasons," of course.

I had my money on today, but, since she's being kept away from the press, it may take a little longer.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:27 PM
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167. Exactly. I believe McCain will be in GRAVE DANGER at the hands
of his own VP (or her operatives) if he wins.

And no, I am not joking in the least.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:35 PM
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178. I'm not joking either
This is a woman who, by all accounts, seizes every opportunity to advance herself. The ends justifies the means. You know in your gut she's dreaming of wielding power from the Oval Office. This is why she had no qualms or scruples about maligning Obama on a national stage.

Leona Helmsley goes to Washington.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:03 PM
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212. There is a reason the locals are SCARED TO DEATH to speak
openly about what she knows.

Alaska Mafia.That's what she is.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:21 PM
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223. If a former mayor of our town were in her position, there would be a community video showing support
All we're getting from Alaska is a lot of controversy. And you're right, except for a very few individuals, the silence is deafening. Even Monegan measured his words very carefully when interviewed. Those people FEAR her.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:37 AM
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378. ^^^ "Alaska Mafia" DING DING DING ^^^
Sounds likely, very likely.

Follow the money. Check out the Sports Stadium project, for example. Where are the accounts and who benefits (apart from the lawyers)? Gather the evidence.

I know (or knew) next to nothing about Alaska sociopolitics. But this is certainly the way RW politicos hand-in-glove with the local construction industry operate around here in the Canary Islands. And I live here in what we call a village (pueblo) that's pretty much the same size, in population, as Wasilla (but with a hell of a lot more tourists).



As for the article as such, it's a pity so much of it (but by no means all) is taken almost verbatim from the Anne Kilkenny letter without proper attribution.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:31 PM
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428. I wonder just how many of her supporters wound up replacing those
republicans she took down in her "reformist" zeal.

Is she a reformer, or was she simply clearing the way for her own career?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:12 PM
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435. Sarah Palin is no "reformer." She is a reactionary.
Toadies clinging to her coattails every step of the way, but she also has a reputation for betraying those who showed loyalty.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:15 PM
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439. That's what I'm saying -
she purged vulnerable people in her own party to install her own supporters and called it "reform".

Kind of like a "night of the long knives".
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:38 PM
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440. Have you seen this thread of the "word count bubbles" article from the NY Times?
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 06:39 PM by Straight Shooter
Look who uses the word "reform" and how often. People have no idea how they're being manipulated. It's like Rudy Nineeleveni all over again, but on a more subtle level.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

edit typo
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:54 PM
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308. But Cindy will be there.
Just 2 steps behind...............
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:29 PM
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171. McCain's Health
I am honestly afraid that the same unseen powers that put Bush up front and pull the strings want Sarah on top and the unpuppetable Mac out of the way. It's a crazy conspiracy theory, but no worse than the right wing floating the idea that our guy is a radical islam sleeper agent.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:31 PM
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175. Remember the Omen?


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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:39 PM
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182. Oh, gawd, another freaky family portrait.
There she is, Little Miss "I'm the center of EVERYTHING!"

I swear, there's something strange about every Palin family portrait I've seen, something that doesn't project harmony.

But I have to admit that Piper -- is that the youngest? -- she's adorable.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:29 PM
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63. I'm sending this to everyone I know.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:29 PM
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65. Regarding: "if there's no tape, it didn't happen" comments.
I totally understand that reality now. However, there is something else that is at work here. If you do not have a direct recording of something like that, it can STILL be seen by the public as true IF the stories start to add up. One random comment from one waitress... yeah, hard to prove -- BUT when stories like these start to appear from various sources in paints a picture of a person. Remember when, was it?, Al Hunt of WSJ was accosted by Dubya at a restaurant and called filthy names? Then when the man at the only parade Bush ever did was told "Who cares what YOU think?", and there was this pattern of stories about his CHARACTER that were not taped, but they piled up.

These stories need to be told because, together, they paint a picture of a mean, racist, and vindictive, person. One that may actually be NASTIER than McCain AND Cheney!!!

So I say let's start collecting these stories with an open mind, because the voters are getting a picture of who Caribou Barbie really is. The GOP ticket is absolutely: Mean/Meaner '08
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:33 PM
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74. totally agree
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:30 PM
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66. Kicked and highly recommended. She is an extremist.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:31 PM
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67. If MaCaca hadn't been on tape, Allen might be the nominee right now
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:32 PM
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69. Not shocked or surprised. Palin needs her ass kicked and Obama had better step it up.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:32 PM
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70. This can't be true, can it?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:33 PM
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73. Did you miss her speech?
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:36 PM
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78. Absolutely!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:02 PM
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126. I only saw excerpts on KO and was able to detect the joy she was feeling in being so mean and
ruthless.
Someone called her Cheney in a skirt. That is very accurate.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:33 AM
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407. Her NASAL, grating voice and snarl reminded me of old Roseanne Barr comedy routines. n/t.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:32 PM
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71. Meaningless, unless she can remember who was with Palin to varify the date and time.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:34 AM
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408. WHY? Rethugs put out there BOLD FACE LIES. n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:33 PM
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72. Unless they find somebody else to confirm the story
it will go nowhere - it's too much of a "he said/she said" sort of thing.

Now, would I be suprised if it were true - no.

But, one person in a restaurant saying she overheard the governor is not exactly credible.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:34 PM
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75. K&R.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:35 PM
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76. Disgusting, but sadly, believable. I hope to Dawg someone has it on tape,
or an interview of someone confirming makes it to the TeeVee. She's a vile being, and a coward.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:36 PM
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79. Someone forward this story to Olbermann
Nothing like a first-hand account as seen on TV.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:37 PM
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80. While I'd love to believe this, tape or it didn't happen.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:37 PM by Occam Bandage
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:43 PM
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94. slur notwithstanding, did you read the rest of it?
there's PLENTY in that article that she needs to answer for
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:43 PM
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95. Yep. And it didn't happen if there's no tape. That's the way things go.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:57 PM
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and the man that used his FULL name that said she was racist doesn't count to you?? n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:58 PM
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207. Nope. Larry Sinclair used his full name too.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:53 PM
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307. I don't care if it's on tape or not.
Spiffarino got LBJ's quote earlier in this thread before I could.

I just want to hear her deny it. :evilgrin:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:25 PM
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424. Everything that has ever happened is on tape?
Really?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:35 PM
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430. Very little that has mattered politically in the last eight years has not been.
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:38 PM
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81. WTF??
Oh god, I can't take anymore of this vile trash. My head might explode...

Someone needs to bring this vile racist snowbilly down, bring her down to Chinatown. She needs to be destroyed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:38 PM
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:40 PM
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86. Congratulations... you are as bad as she is (Spelling it with a K doesn't make it any cuter)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:51 PM
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #108
116. I didn't say you said "the colored girls go doop de doop de doop"
I said you think Kunt is a reasonable appellation to use on DU to express your dislike of a particular woman, and that you are mistaken in that view.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:06 PM
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134. I still think it is a reasonable appelation...
and could really fucking care less what the "I'll believe in you if you believe in me" mob thinks. Fuck all that noise.

Hey, I can only wish that I had written "the colored girls go doop de doop de doop"
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:40 PM
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88. Sexism Fail.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:53 PM
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114. Overused internet cliche fail
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:57 PM
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117. board nanny fail
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #117
139. Hey, there's no need for us to pile on that poster...
although you are right; they WERE functioning as a board nanny
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:44 PM
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96. I hope you're trolling and not just that dumb.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:52 PM
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113. Was Geoffrey Chaucer dumb?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:58 PM
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119. Do you speak the English of 1394?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:02 PM
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128. Sometimes...
but other times I drop it. Depends upon the room.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:28 PM
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279. Are you a 17th century roundhead?
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:40 PM
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89. BRING IT ON...........
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:42 PM by timeforarevolution
Hey Palin!

No wonder you're the darling of the right wingnuts. You're openly racist!

GOOD!!!! No sense being all politically correct like those pussy libruls, right?

Nope, I know your kind. I grew up with them. You take pride in calling a "spade a spade." Yep, yep. You tell it like it is, right? Call 'em like you see 'em.

Don't you fuckin' back off of who you are now. Be who you are for the world to see. You wouldn't want to say one thing in one city and then something else in another for POLITICAL reasons, would you? Nahhhhh, that's for libruls.


So, let it rip. Say what you really think.

Let America and the world see what you "conservative, family value" types are really about.

Be loud, be proud!!!!!!

Embrace the racist dumbass, wolf-killer, vindictive, ignorant, conniving, embarrassment to all Americans, all Alaskans, all females, all mothers and wives that you are!!!



:applause:

On edit: I removed "bitch," even though I'm female and believe I have the right to use it in this context.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:00 PM
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124. This should have its own thread.
Add the example in the OP and put it out for everyone. I believe you've pegged her weak spot.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:24 PM
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165. I did.... this is very cathartic for me...lol
as I've had this same conversation with family members in recent weeks -- yes, right-wing racists -- so it's like I was getting ready to take on Palin before she was even chosen.

I would luvvvvvvv to meet her. So would most DUers, no doubt.


:)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:45 PM
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97. My mother had an old copy of 'Little Black Sambo' and I've read the book - very racist kids book.
Mind you, this was just one of many children's books she had as a child and while cleaning out her parents house she found the copy of it (although as a small child I remember reading it at my grandparents house). Mind you, neither my parents or grandparents are even the slightest bit racist. My mom seems to recall someone gave her the book and it was just tossed in with the collection of other books. Eventually the book ended up in the attic stored away with other books.

But if you ever have a chance to read the book (and I have) the book is pretty damn racist with "Sambo" definately being used as a derogatory for blacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Black_Sambo
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:51 PM
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109. Sambo's lives
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:51 PM by slackmaster
http://www.sambosrestaurant.com /

I used to love eating there when I was a kid.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:52 PM
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112. Sambo was originally Indian (note the Tiger... none in Africa)
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:55 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
The British called Indians (India Indians) "niggers" and "blacks." I am not sure whether the word "nigger" originated in the British colonial corps in India... I suspect it may have.

American southerners redid the Sambo story with an African-American kid, using the standard cartoon stereotype features.

I ate many meals as a child in the Sambo's chain of restaurants, which were like Denny's (And may have turned into Denny's for all I know)

Sambo's tried to survive the civil rights era by changing all their decorations to the original indian motif; their late 1960s Sambo was light brown with a turban and pointy shoes.

Didn't work. They seem to have eventually all disappeared anyway. ON EDIT: The post right above this suggests at least one Sambo's exists.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:06 PM
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133. The books are still out there - my mother still has her copy and not sure what to do with it
so it's around
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #133
166. Sell it. (The audience isn't who you'd expect; there are many black collectors of racist kitsch.)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #133
177. It is not uncommon for blacks themselves to be big collectors
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:33 PM by kestrel91316
of black memorabilia, and yes that includes the racist Aunt Jemima and Sambo and yard jockey type stuff. It's part of their cultural history.

There is a legitimate market out there. eBay.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:09 PM
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267. Yep, Sambo's is now known as Denny's.
Which may explain the problems they've had serving brown skinned people
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:52 PM
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436. The former "Sambo's" restaurant chain has nothing to do with "Denny's"
Not now and not then.

Sorry.

Tesha

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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:55 PM
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115. I was taught
Sambo represented an Indian not an African child.

Evidently, in Sarah's world 'all Blacks are alike'.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:01 PM
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125. Sambo was Indian. But the drawings showed a child very dark skin.
you are correct
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:05 PM
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131. In many American editions he was changed to African in the illustrations
You can find editions with very different Sambos and settings.

The ones I saw as a kid in the deep south tended toward caricature african, though the tiger marks it as set in india
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Castleman Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:57 PM
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206. Good example of the terminology
is the Agatha Christie classic AND THEN THERE WERE NONE. Well, that's what most of us know it as. It's was also published as Ten Little Indians. Eer, except the original British publication was Ten Little Niggers....BUT THAT WAS BACK IN 1926!!!!!!!!!!!!
This racist ho has got to go!
I'd love to see Michelle Obama kick the crap out of her.
Snotty white racist outdoorsy girl vs. Pissed off sister from Chicago?
that'd get some kind of ratings....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:10 PM
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141. I know southern Indian (Tamil) people who are as dark as any African I've seen
And they are regarded as Caucasians.

Race is largely an artificial construct.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:27 PM
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226. I feel really dumb right now.
When I was a child, I had a copy of this book and loved it. I thought Sambo was a very smart boy for outwitting those nasty tigers the way he did.

I can't remember if the child in my copy of the book was Indian or African, but it didn't matter. I just thought he was very brave and clever.

I do see how calling a grown man "Sambo" because he's black is belittling and racist, just as calling an Arabic-looking man "Abdul" rather than his real name would be (and I've heard that done).

However, I just don't understand how the original children's story was racist.

The child in the story had to be Indian or African, since that's where the story was set because that's where tigers live, and he was portrayed in a very positive light.

So what am I missing? :shrug:

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:33 PM
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232. You're right. It is not an intrinsically racist story
But the name became a slur at some point, not because of anything Sambo did, but only because the title was "Little Black Sambo"

And the caricature "mush-mouf" sort of drawing became associated with the name Sambo.

Sambo himself was just fine.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:39 PM
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239. Okay, thanks.
So the evolution of the name "Sambo" into a racial slur is the only reason the book is now banned and thought of as racist?

That's very sad and a complete waste of a charming story.

I wonder if anyone has ever thought of republishing the story with a different name and title -- or is it just too late for that now?

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:39 PM
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240. Well it wasn't men in white sheets burning crosses racists
but there was always a bit of racist overtone to the book. I think it was more on the drawings that were created. I think it has to d more with the American versions of the book that were created as oppose to the original but you can read more about it here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo_ (ethnic_slur)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:44 PM
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241. Thank you.
I don't really remember the pictures, but I think it was a Little Golden Book -- of which I had many, and longed for "grown-up" books without pictures!

I'll read the wiki entry later on, after work. :)

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:55 PM
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252. Yes, it's the illustrations that offend (in some editions)
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:54 PM
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326. There are no tigers in Africa.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:11 PM
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341. True!
Now that you mention it, I do recall that fact.

For the story to be set in Africa, the sly felines would have to be lions... though I think hyenas would fit the tricky meanie role much better!

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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:52 AM
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366. That's what I remember. I really loved the book as a kid.
Clever and brave is what I remember too. That and the tiger running in circles 'til it turned into butter.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:16 PM
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423. It was never intended to be racist
But times change and sensibilities change. I have a copy of the book. I would not read it with children. There are many other wonderful books.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:28 AM
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457. Little Black Sambo - Little Golden Book from the 1950s - I didn't perceive it as racist then but
i was also just a child. He was Indian. Haven't read the Wikipedia, but have found errors in other Wikipedia listings.

http://www.littlegoldenbookstore.com/Childrens-Books/li...
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:45 PM
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99. So it looks like even though George Allen didn't run,
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 03:52 PM by LibDemAlways
the GOP got a racist on the ticket after all. This won't bother the repuke base at all, but it certainly won't do her any favors among many undecideds. Hope the story can be verified or others come forward. If so, good.
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:47 PM
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100. boneless, skinless, neutered and de-clawed
that's all that needs to happen.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:48 PM
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101. If it is not on tape, they'll just deny it.... to the media, it will have never happened.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:54 PM
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311. I want to hear her deny it. n/t
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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:48 PM
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103. I hope this goes mainstream
I would love to pass this on to my friends but they will discredit it because of the link is a leftie.. crap. Hope someplace like ABC/CBS picks up on this
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:49 PM
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104. We can go the "Alaska Daily News" site
and post our opinions of their governor - all you have to do is register - it's free. Just google Alaska Daily News. I plan on submitting my letters to the editor.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:49 PM
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105. McCain-Palin. Putting country first....
well, some of the country. This is truly sickening.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:50 PM
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106. If this is true, it will probably make the RW base love her even more
I don't think it would play well with swing voters, though.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:51 PM
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110. Wow, she already talks like Cheney. Sarah "Dick" Palin, huh?
Its' sooooooooooo over.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:57 PM
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118. I KNEW it!!! I said this days ago based on very thin evidence
and I was RIGHT.

I guarantee you she's an out-and-out radical white supremacist. We're talkin' Aryan Nations-grade.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 03:58 PM
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120. OMFG. The gift that just keeps giving. n/t
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:02 PM
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129. What's this bitch shit?
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:04 PM
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130. How reputable is the LA Progressive? At this point, I don't believe it.
More verification needs to be done, DUers.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #130
142. If inaccurate it's a masterful take on her speaking style.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:05 PM
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132. Rumors like this should be substantiated before touted as fact n/t
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #132
275. True. Way too many people are jumping on this. I call them to remember Michelle Obama & "whitey".
n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:06 PM
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135. If this gets legs, it'll be the end of Palin. This shit will play with the KKK
and the closet KKK wannabes, but it'll disgust everybody else.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:07 PM
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137. More "family values"
Every good Christian speaks like that. :eyes: :crazy: :wtf: :grr: :scared:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:09 PM
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140. And now we know the real reason she was selected for VP.
Nothing they do is without reason, folks.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #140
143. Another bad guess that overlooks the obvious reason she was chosen
:eyes:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #143
193. Ha ha, no.
She was chosen to reassure the bigoted conservative fundie pig demographic that was threatening to stay home when McCain was nominated that the right train was still leaving the station on time.

But thanks for playing. :) (see, I can make shitty passive-aggressive smilies, too!)
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:11 PM
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144. Sarah KKK Palin (Stalin)
She is human garbage, and should be getting back into journalism as soon as her Alaska gig is up.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:12 PM
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145. If true, this has to get wide coverage
It is outrageous. She should lose her job over this - the one she currently holds and the one she's running for.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:13 PM
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149. Maybe she never got over being beaten by a black woman for Miss Alaska
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:23 PM
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162. Was she?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #162
172. Yes, Maryline Blackburn. Google her. She's still a working entertainer, R&B singer, has a website
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #172
230. My, my, will wonders never cease.
http://www.marylineblackburn.com /

Also:

http://www.zimbio.com/Maryline+Blackburn

Maryline Blackburn won the 1984 Miss Alaska beauty pageant. She beat out Sarah Palin for the crown. Palin went on to become the Governor of Alaska and is now the VP running mate of John McCain.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:13 PM
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150. Holy shit. She makes 'macacca' sound sweet.
Makes me wonder a little more about the discussion thread about Sandpoint, ID.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:13 PM
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151. Yeah...I know...I totally hate those Eskimo mother f***ers myself.
Always with the muktuk and the seal grease...buncha terrorist in the wings I tell you.


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:14 PM
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153. What's the difference between Sara and a pig?
The lipstick.

THe Difference between Sara and my Motor? My Motor has a dipstick and Sara is a dipstick!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:19 PM
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156. We don't need proof. We can just ask the question. Did she say it?
That may be a repuke method and I don't have a problem with using their method back at them. If you ask the question enough times it keeps the controversy going.
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #156
179. and let the freepers read that
and they play tit for tat.

This is becoming a joke.We are going to take an easy win and piss it away playing this shit
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #156
291. Exactly
We can Cavuto her.

We're not SAYING she's a racist, we're just asking. Like is your mother a whore? I'm not saying she's a whore I'm just wonder out loud if she is a whore.

I gotta go watch that Jon Stewart clip again.

Regards
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:20 PM
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157. Careful -- we are better than this.
We fought way too hard against the unsubstantiated e-mail "rumors" about Obamajust to bite hook, line and sinker into this. I hate this woman with the heat of 1,000 suns, but I'm not buying this at all, especially without proof. There are so many reasons to make sure she is defeated in November, and any other time she's up for elected office. Until this is somehow substantiated, this isn't one of them.

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #157
161. You'd have to find out who her dining companions were and
get them to confirm the story.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #157
176. Enough of us are sufficiently gullible that the bullshit rumor tactic still works
Charlie Brown, Lucy, football. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:47 PM
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244. Enough of you can't read either and miss that a person signed their name
to this article.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #244
247. How do we know he didn't just make the whole thing up?
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:52 PM by slackmaster
Or got told a made-up story by a GOP operative trying to create another tabloid-style frenzy like the SEVERAL false stories that have been floated in the last week?

Without corroboration from an actual witness it's hearsay at best.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:52 PM
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249. It's his responsibility. He put his name on the line. n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:53 PM
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250. Lucy always promises she won't pull the football away too
And Charlie Brown falls for it EVERY TIME.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #250
287. Lucy wasn't a journalist so your comparison says more about you
than about the author of this piece.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:11 PM
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332. I'd say his posts have been spot on - yours, OTOH, have lacked, shall we say,
a certain intellectual vigor. That's about as nice as I can make it without actually calling your ability to think cogently by its proper name.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #287
391. The alleged waitress is referred to as "Lucille"
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:36 AM by slackmaster
In a story written by a journalist named "Charley".

I don't believe in coincidences.

Even reputable journalists get the wool pulled over their eyes sometimes.

Google this for a prime example:

"matthew rothschild" infragard "shoot to kill"

An unnamed person told Rothschild that InfraGard members would have some kind of special enforcement powers during a state of emergency. That is complete bullshit, but Rothschild published it anyway without making any effort to verify it. He got snookered, and the story went viral.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #391
421. Hey, if it's in Dick and Sharon's Ezine, it's gotta be the real deal, dontcha think? n/t
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #157
225. It's not a chain email. We are reacting to a published news story. n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:13 AM
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392. It's not a news story - It's gossip-mongering
News stories have verifiable sources.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:49 PM
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453. So, you're defending Palin?
Dude, you've lost it.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:43 AM
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460. No, I am not defending Palin in the least
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 09:48 AM by slackmaster
What's the matter with you?

Can you tell the difference between criticizing peoples' methods and opposing their intentions?
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:20 PM
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158. Holy Fuck! And these same people are called 'moral', and 'family values'!!!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:21 PM
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160. McCarthy-ite John Birchers are not known for their decency, my friends!
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zam Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:23 PM
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164. The source of this story is "just" a blogger, not a newspaper.
http://thepoliticalcurmudgeon.blogspot.com

Secondly, she supposedly said "fucking Eskimos", while at the same time, she is married to one. It doesn't make sense.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:28 PM
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169. Lou Dobbs is married to an Hispanic woman. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:37 PM
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180. Todd is not "an Eskimo". Geezus. Get your facts straight. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:41 PM
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183. 1/30 blood line......n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #183
186. Yes, I know. Maybe you and the poster above are measuring
by the One Drop Rule?

Jeb Bush is married to a Latina and he fucked with minority votes for a living.

What's your point?
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zam Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #180
187. Yes, he is part Eskimo.
From wikipedia:

"His mother, a former secretary of the Alaska Federation of Natives, is one-quarter Yup'ik, and his maternal grandmother, Lena Andre, is a member of the Curyung tribe."

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #187
194. Where in that entry does it say he identifies as an "Eskimo"?
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:50 PM by sfexpat2000
Edit for attitude and to add: We really don't know how to talk about this, do we? lol
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zam Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #194
203. Nowhere.
Why does he have to identify with being an eskimo ?

The point I tried to make was that the story was unbelievable and this was just one example of it.

I also wish there was a "magic bullet" story with which McCain-Palin could be defeated, but is unlikely that this is one.

Promoting false stories on the other hand could have a very negative effect.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #203
229. Why does he have to identify with being an "Eskimo" when people like you
can just decide that for him? Is that what you mean, Chief?

Do you know the origins of that word or even, what it means?

The story is not unbelievable. It's in line with everything we know about Caribou Barbie, including her Dominionist white supremacist beliefs.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #229
446. Supposedly he's part Yup'ik, leading him to have privileges
that he wouldn't have if he weren't. Financial, health care, able to vote in Yup'ik affairs, able to hunt sea mammals, etc etc. And, she & mccain can now claim native american woohoo status, political stunt.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #187
278. It's not Eskimo it's "INUIT"---please get it right. Some speak the Eskimo-Aluet language. n/t
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:28 PM by vaberella
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #278
317. I admit
I did not know the name of the native people in Alaska. Thanks for clearing that up.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #317
448. There are several groups, with tribes within each.
This is cool, lots of people will now be learning about Alaska, and Alaskan Native heritage stuff. http://www.alaskanative.net /

Major groupings:
Inupiat
Yup'ik and Cup'ik
Aleut
Tlingit (multiple spellings)
Haida
Tsimshian
Eyak
Athabaskan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Natives
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #278
445. He is Yup'ik, not Inuit.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 07:28 PM by uppityperson
"Eskimo" is the commonly used overall term, held by many to be derogatory, for the Inuit and Yup'ik people. He is part Yup'ik. Thanks for correcting on the "eskimo" bit, I get tired of doing so.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #187
447. Curyung tribe is a group within the Yup'iks, based out of Dillingham
Yup'ik is the larger designation, with varied tribes within it.
http://curyungtribe.com/
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #164
238. If you do not think it is possible
For her to make that comment while being married to a man (who is not entirely Eskimo) then you have quite a bit to learn about racism.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #164
293. You act like bigots wouldn't fuck the people they hate
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:48 PM by Raineyb
Strom Thurmond did all he could to keep black people as second class citizens. It didn't stop him from screwing (And frankly I'm more inclined to say raping) his maid and fathering a child with her.

Not to mention a lot of bigots tend to compartmentalize people. "Oh you're not really black, you're not like them

One of the cops who brutalized Abner Louima had a black girlfriend. What is your point?

Regards
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #164
325. Judi Giuliani called her former husband "kike" and "jewboy"
(snip)

She has insisted that ex-husband Bruce Nathan was a millionaire, even though he tells reporters he wasn't, and further insists his ex-wife used to call him a "rich little kike" and "Jew boy" when they fought about money.

more
http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2007/0... /
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:28 PM
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168. I don't buy it
I'm not saying she isn't racist, but who the hell says "sambo"? Either way, a Govenor's word against a waitress'? This will be seen as McCain's "Obama's a muslim" smears. Also, is her husband white?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #168
190. What? You mean you discriminate against working people
in favor of a big fat liar like Caribou Barbie?

And, what does it matter if her husband is white? Exactly?

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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #190
200. No I don't discriminate against working people
I am one. I'm talking about the media and how they would treat this report of hearsay. About the husband, people in interracial relationships tend to less racist, though not all the time.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #200
201. The corporate media hasn't done anything like report news for a long time.
But, if this is true, it will be verified. We're going around them now.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #168
204. Read the article -- there is someone ON THE RECORD saying she's racist. n/t
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #168
294. Who the hell says sambo?
Fucking racist! Hello!

The word hasn't gone extinct you know.

Regards
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #168
414. Apparantly "Lucille" uses the term Sambo and says it's common in Alaska
That's Lucille with the unknown last name, working at an un-named restaurant in the un-named town, somewhere in the wilds of Alaska.
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weezie1317 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:29 PM
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170. If it's true, I hope it comes out. I don't support Palin attacks, but this is different.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:30 PM
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173. Damn... that's disgusting.
:puke:
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:31 PM
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174. Stalk her everywhere and always keep the mic on
it will be very easy to capture her going off on a racist tirade. I keep saying she is totally divorced from reality from her sheltered privileged life in nowhere land. She doesn't have a clue on how to be diplomatic. She would be another idiot saber rattler like Condoleeza pissing off and offending the whole world.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #174
185. Damn right.
It WILL happen. Especially if that's the way she usually talks.

Here's hoping that since the trooper investigation is now on the fast track, we won't have to deal with this offensive twit for too much longer.

This story should take on a life of its own. There should be no way she should get away with it, or from it.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #174
406. This is the answer
Indeed, she will eventually say something vile.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:46 PM
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189. How very republican. n/t
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:47 PM
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191. The insane hockey mom is a typical republican
Palin is the typical republican. Greedy, uncaring, full of shit and a racist.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:47 PM
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192. The insane hockey mom is a typical republican
Palin is the typical republican. Greedy, uncaring, full of shit and a racist.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:48 PM
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195. this is deep.
:wtf:
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:48 PM
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196. Can't beat those "small-town, down-home values"
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 04:51 PM by nam78_two
Not that all small town people are like this (I am not generalizing about and stereotyping all small towns)-it is just that I can see quite clearly what Palin's small-town "values" are and they represent the worst stereotypes about such places-intolerance, ignorance, bigotry...

Those are her values and those of her Repuke base...
Quite disgusting.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:49 PM
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197. I URGE YOU....
LET THIS SINK!

PLEASE.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #197
202. Why?
Just curious, but why would we want to ignore this :shrug:?
If it is inaccurate I can see why, but if it is accurate, why would we want to ignore it?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:49 PM
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198. Her husband is part Inuit, I believe.
Very odd.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #198
262. He's not, someone posted up thread that it's all a sham!
He only cliams to be part Yupik Eskimo and they planted an old lady years ago to make the claim that she is his grandmother!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #262
451. If you mean this post, the Curyung tribe is a Yup'ik tribe.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:50 PM
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199. Everything I own
for an irrefutable recording of darling Sarah saying things like that!
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #199
211. What'cha got? Besides an '88 Malibu , a used toothbrush and some tennis shoes...
'cause i already got all that!
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:01 PM
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208. Whaaaaa?
OMG! If someone goes on the record with this it will be helpful.
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kurth_ Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:02 PM
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210. Worthless 6 schools in 6 years-degree-in-communications lying trashy skank slut
and very dangerous, obviously.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #210
213. um....
that's a little much, dontcha think?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #213
235. He left out worthless mother and media whore. n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:04 PM
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214. What a piece of shit
:grr:
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:14 PM
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217. Someone needs to find Lucille
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:19 PM
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219. Born again Christians are not allowed to say "fuck." n/t
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #219
413. Sure we can. We are working out our faith at the basest level first.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:19 PM
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220. She reflects the average American rather well....
Which is the only reason why there's even a chance of us losing.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:19 PM
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221. Racism is a very big problem in Alaska, sadly.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:21 PM by progressivebydesign
There have been many organizations devoted to stopping it. There have been countless attacks on Native Alaskans that have resulted in little or no jail time for the non-native attackers. There was a horrid incident with some DJs who made disgusting comments about Native Alaskan women. Another case that was controversial, a group of non-Native teens attacked Native teens with frozen paintballs (which are pretty lethal), and when one of the victims got away and flagged down a police car, the cop arrested him and charged him with being disorderly and threw him in jail for 10 days. Also a horrific case that only resulted in a "tampering with evidence" charge, after a young non-Native man was found to be having sex with a native Alaskan female's corpse (but he was not charged in her death!)

My point is that it IS entirely believable that this is happening, and that Palin is guilty of being racist. Considering there is a man in the news story that freely gives his full name and calls her out for being racist and bigotted, tells me that this is not a rumor. In fact, some other people are indignant because they say that we're spreading a rumor. I don't think a published article in a newspaper, with several quotes about direct knowledge, makes this a "rumor." Now, if someone posted here that their "sister said that she heard that...", that would be spreading rumors.

Reacting to a piece in the media is called... reacting to a piece in the media. Big diff.

More info on racism in Alaska against the Native Alaskans: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?...
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #221
303. How does Sarah Palin spell
Alaskkka?
Oh if only some photographer could get a picture of the Hitler portrait in the Palin living room.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #221
441. Alaska voted OVERWHELMINGLY for Obama in primary; and for Romney, Huckabee, & Paul in Republican
primary. This is a good sign, IMO. Still trying to find the link that gives the actual count and percentages, though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:21 PM
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222. No wonder she is so well liked by her fellow repugs.... jeeze....n/t
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mahaevey Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:29 PM
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227. not so sure this is true
So I am not a fan of Palin at all so I don't want to sound like I'm defending her but this doesn't ring that true to me. I was born and raised in Anchorage, AK but have lived in Chicago for several years now. And I just don't think this sounds like something an Alaskan would say.. not that it couldn't be true but Alaskans don't usually refer to people as eskimos. They would call them a native. As in Native Alaskan, its not a slur to call someone a native, it would just depend on the context and way someone says native. So if she was overheard saying f**king Natives" then I would believe this story more. Some of the other stuff she supposedly said may be true, you can never be sure but just doesn't sound right to me...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:33 PM
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234. And NOW you know EXACTLY which demographic is being pandered to.
(In case you had any questions. . . )
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:36 PM
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237. You bet. n/t
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:35 PM
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236. She is HIDEOUS
And ANYONE wants her?
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:46 PM
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242. K&R
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Stern21 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:46 PM
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243. Damn. The things I want to call her but won't. I do have a new theme song for her though:
You're as cold as ice, you're willing to sacrifice our love
You never take advice, someday you'll pay the price, I know

Ive seen it before, it happens all the time
Youre closing the door, you leave the world behind
You're digging for gold, you're throwing away
A fortune in feelings, but someday you'll pay

You're as cold as ice, you're willing to sacrifice our love
You want paradise, but someday you'll pay the price, I know

Ive seen it before, it happens all the time
Youre closing the door, you leave the world behind
Youre digging for gold, you're throwing away
A fortune in feelings, but someday you'll pay

(solo)

Cold as ice - you know that you are
Cold as ice - as cold as ice to me
Cold as ice

Youre as cold as ice, cold as ice, I know, yes I know
Youre as cold as ice, cold as ice, I know, oh yes I know
Youre as cold as ice, cold as ice, I know, oh yes I know
Youre as cold as ice... (to fade)
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:51 PM
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246. Whem I heard Rachael Wednesday night saying an anti jewish group preacher was at her church
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:57 PM by notadmblnd
I just knew they were white supremacists. I had read that she was a former member of The Alaskan Independent Party who advocated succession from the union. When I read up on AIP I started finding articles about them meeting with supremacists groups in the south and that one of their goals is to help give these organizations legitimacy. Then I either read or saw a video, had to be video- telling their own people that they had to infiltrate party's in order to gain power. I posted this thread...



After the speech last night I was once again listening to the talking heads. Rachael and the Tweet'ster were talking. Rachael said, two weeks ago there was an anti-Jewish preacher speaking at her church while she was in attendance; preaching that Israel deserves terrorists attacks.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ...

So this morning I get up and I'm reading the Newsweek story about how White Supremacists are hoping that electing Obama will bring forth the hate.http://www.newsweek.com/id/151418/page/1
snip:white supremacists anticipate a boost to their cause if he becomes the first black president. His election, they say, would trigger a backlash whites rising up, a revolution of sorts that they think is long overdue.

So I decide to find what I can on connection to the Alaska Independent Party AIP (which Sarah was a member of) and their links to white supremists.
here's just a tidbit:

As I am sure every knows by know, the AIP's main goal is for Alaska to secede from the U.S.A. and become its own country. To achieve this goal the Alaska Independence Party finds itself in some fairly shady company; company such as the Neo-Confederate, White Supremacist "League of the South", whose founder, J Michael Hill, according to a Southern Poverty Law Center Intelligence Report, once said,

"It is time for us, as Southern whites, to look to our own well being and defense against these thugs,"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... .



This confirms, I got it right. What we need to do now is to provoke her. Drive her into a rage so she'll lose control and spew her racist remarks publicly.

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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:51 PM
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248. And guys?
The correct term is First Nations or aboriginals. To call the aborignal people either Indians or eskimos is neither descriptive nor correct.
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zam Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #248
265. In Alaska the term Eskimo is still used.
From wikipedia:

In Canada and Greenland the term Eskimo is widely held to be pejorative and has fallen out of favor, largely supplanted by the term Inuit. However, while Inuit describes all of the Eskimo peoples in Canada and Greenland, that is not true in Alaska and Siberia. In Alaska the term Eskimo is commonly used, because it includes both Yupik and Inupiat, while Inuit is not accepted as a collective term or even specifically used for Inupiat (which technically is Inuit). No universal replacement term for Eskimo, inclusive of all Inuit and Yupik people, is accepted across the geographical area inhabited by the Inuit and Yupik peoples.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo
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mahaevey Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:23 PM
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274. not commonly used
I say this as someone who is from Alaska... Most people say Native Alaskan or just native. There are so may different indigenous Native cultures in Alaska that you don't know who is Inuit (eskimo), Aleut, Athabascan, or any number of others. It would be like calling someone chinese when you don't know if they are chinese, japanese, or korean. You would call someone Asian. That's why you call people Native Alaskan -You just don't lump everyone together and say eskimo. I never hear people say eskimo unless they are really actually eskimo and then they usually would say Inuit or Yupik... just sayin... atleast this has been my experience as an Alaskan.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #274
449. welcome to DU and thanks for posting that
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:53 PM
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251. With a bit of luck, maybe she'll be beind bars soon. Isn't she under investigation
for possible complicity in some criminal activity?
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:55 PM
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253. She's just..blech. VILE. And with the potential to be even WORSE than Bush..
if allowed anywhere near the White House, much less if something were to happen to McSame. And I NEVER thought I'd say that.. :hide:

Leave it to the GOP to find someone even WORSE...

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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:55 PM
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254. She's a blatant racist- this
crap will surface before too long.

She can't keep this under wraps forever.

She will do herself in, just watch.
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Sewsojm Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:01 PM
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258. "Killa from Wasilla" strikes again!!
This is one Vile Racist Bitch.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:01 PM
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259. I had a bad feeling when I heard she opposed the hate crimes bill.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:02 PM by malik flavors
I know there isn't a lot of diversity where she's from and I just got a feeling she might not be familiar with or really care for minorities.

This lady is the scariest politician i've ever seen. Not because I think she'll win, but because of what would happen if she did.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:08 PM
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264. I can see you next tuesday, Sarah.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:13 PM
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268. I find this completely believable. As someone who lived in Alaska for 6 years, I will attest that
racism is rampant. I'd never before lived in a place so full of nasty, foul-mouthed rednecks, it was an absolute shock to me, coming as I did from ("nice") Minnesota.

I understand all the posters who are saying if it's not on tape, it didn't happen -- however, I think we should all spread this story far and wide. Because you never know who else might be out there who could decide to come forward to confirm it, or come forward with something similar for which there IS recorded or documented evidence.

This is war. We need to destroy her.

sw
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:33 PM
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282. Try to find out if anyone has a tape. I act like Alaska is two blocks. ^_^ n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:43 PM
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292. Sorry, I don't live there anymore. I wish I did, I used to work in the Wasilla Post Office.
Believe me, I'd be hot on the Sarah Palin gossip trail if I were still living there. But I left Alaska in 1995, and she wasn't on my radar back then.

sw
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:04 PM
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300. Totally understand. I would be too. Ah well. Maybe something will crop up that's proved. n/t
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:44 AM
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361. I'm with you
Nuke her ass.


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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:38 AM
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385. Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. Damn straight, she must be destroyed.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:13 PM
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269. Hearsay means nothing until you get it on tape.
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:14 PM by vaberella
I would like to believe it. There is a lot that I would like to believe about that woman. However, there are things that are factual and proven Church leaning Dominionism, her husband associated with seccesionism, pregnant daughter. I could believe this since something similar was said before. But I'll wait until a tape or phone conversation comes out with them saying it. This is in the same realm "almost" as Michelle's 'whitey' tape.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:18 PM
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271. I'm not surprised either.
She is used to her small communities (and circles) to speak openly.

But, she's in the big time now and will certainly slip up. I just hope the right people are around when she does.

I might have doubted this article before she spoke at the convention. But now...well...it does help explain how she could give such a speech in front of her children and the soon-to-be young parents of her first grandchild.
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jcla Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:20 PM
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272. I am not surprised.
McShame in his speach mentioned Whites and Latinos... (you know the Mayflower and the new immigrant thing) and left the rest of us (color varieties) out in the cold. Palin dislikes diversity... she has negative stands on Gays, Women's Rights, Abortion the Supreme Court...Supports rightwing nut policies and the AIP.

CAN WE BE SURPRISED. No... Just surprised that this is reported.

My sympathy to the Native Alaskans... they will need it.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:24 PM
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276. If she were Rush, her listeners would be saying "mega dittos."
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:31 PM by caseymoz

That is, in the Republican "happy days."

Those are passed. If this is verified (or if any of three things about her are verified) McCain is sunk. McCain's desperation move has backfired.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:27 PM
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277. Some waitress overheard it?
It's true because, "everybody talks that way"?

Juneau's not that big of a place. It should be easy for a reporter to find out who's making this claim.

Extraordinary stories require extraordinary fastidiousness in sourcing. Until then, I'll take this with a grain of salt.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:30 PM
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280. Let's hope this gets out to EVERYONE! I'm sorry to see she made it...
...through a whole week and the formal nomination process. I thought for sure she'd be gone by now. Another lapse in McCain's judgement.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:31 PM
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281. This will make the red necks in my area love her more.....
but should disqualify her as VP material.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:35 PM
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285. This link is from a student that grew up in Wasilla in 1985
He graduated from her High School three years behind her.




http://www.dsrstudio.com/dsrblog/archives/2008/09/sean_...
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:40 PM
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288. WOW!!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:54 PM
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309. He is not related to the story but wanted to tell his story about their town
So it sounds like her town was really red neck.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:33 PM
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283. It's hearsay and it can't be proven unless there's a tape
which there isn't.

Oh well, nice try.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:33 PM
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284. Damn ... how crazy is this woman?
Is there any chance she just got mixed up and thought she was eating at a defunct establishment?



Who knows ... maybe those places still exist in Alaska.

Where the hell is this chick coming from? WTF?



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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:39 PM
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286. Maybe this is why she cant do interviews and why
she was rushed back to Alaska. They have to do a accelerated "My Fair Lady" treatment on her.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:41 PM
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290. Why is this not mainstream media? This is a story they should welcome.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:05 PM
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301. She can't do interviews because she stupid enough
to say she hasn't thought about Iraq DESPITE her eldest son about to be deployed.

Forget the rumors, she said that in front of the world and that should eliminate you right off the bat. If you have no thoughts on that then it has to be assumed that you don't have too much incite into any world events.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:54 PM
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295. Thank you, Lucille --- for the risk you took-!!! The ugliness of Ms Beauty Pageant Queen . . .
is breathtakingly disgusting!!!

This is Rove in a woman's body, IMO ---
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Third Doctor Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:04 PM
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299. This is acceptible behavior
where the far right is observed. It's the same type of mentality that prompted them supposedly to go help (impose democracy) the people of Iraq. Those unfortunate peopld should be more like us because we are so good.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:36 PM
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431. Yes, she will be crucified when convenient.
Big Oil doesn't like interference in their ad campaigns.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:15 PM
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302. In this other now-locked thread,
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 07:17 PM by Ghost Dog
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

SemperEadem commented:

did anyone else read the rest of the article? The rest of what is written is fuel for a fire to burn her butt---it's about her record, for which she needs to be held accountable.

to which I was about to reply:

Indeed:

The GOP is kind of like organized crime up here, an insurance agent in Anchorage who knows the Palin family, explained. Its corrupt and arrogant. Theyre all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.

Once Palin became mayor, he continued, She became part of that inner circle. ...


Settle down and pay attention, please, class, sorry, DU.

Ok? --> maddezmom beat me to it:

38. lockiing

Not a latest breaking news source and violates the headline rule.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:57 PM
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328. ^^^THANK YOU^^^
there's more to this story than just that unfortunate slur, which, as bad as it is, it isn't illegal-

however-

there's PLENTY in this story to be pissed about
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:47 PM
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304. My God, what a horrible person.
I hate her more every day. Is she really an American?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:56 PM
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312. About the Author:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:04 PM
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316. Thank you...... and for the thread you started on his professional background
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:00 PM
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314. Oh my GOD!
Just when I thought I couldn't hate that c*** more. Are you shitting me? :argh:
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:07 PM
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318. No surprise! That's how they talk when they are among themselves.
I recall that the Education Secretary in the Reagan Administration (I believe his name was "Bell") said they referred to Martin Luther King as "Martin Luther Coon" quite openly at Cabinet meetings.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:08 PM
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320. Its hard to imagine someone made that slur up.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:19 PM
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322. Sounds like a Karl Rove/Air National Guard plant.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:27 PM
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323. ABOUT THE AUTHOR > > >
Just background information for those assessing veracity one way or another. Simply a datapoint:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:36 PM
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324. Not suprising that Miss Oil and Gas would be a racist tool.
Big Oil needs "friends" like her to despoil rainforests and any other place supporting life.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 08:55 PM
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327. Sarah will have a macacca moment, if not several.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:05 PM
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329. "part aboriginal"
Which part?

I have no problem believing SP is misogynist, foul-mouthed, cruel and racist.But this story?...ho hum.
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:05 PM
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330. What needs to be done
At least 1 million of us need to email this to all the news networks. Off to my email.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:10 PM
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331. If these kinds of statements are true, I hope they find legs and get run down. nt
NoFederales
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Caribou Barbie Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:13 PM
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333. we need this woman to come forward
we need attack ads showing her for what she is! Sambo? What is this 1950s Alabama? Somebody send Sarah some fresh sheets for her next rally!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:30 PM
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336. That "pitbull in lipstick" bitch is a real piece of work, isn't she?Leave her kids alone & get *her*
God help us. The only thing that's giving me any comfort just now is how dejected David Brooks is when he talks with Mark Shields!

Hekate


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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:32 PM
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337. What'd I say? "She's a shit."
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:00 PM
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339. Flame away, but barring a tape, this is the equivalent of calling Michelle Obama a racist based on..
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 10:01 PM by Brotherjohn
... a bad interpretation of her senior thesis. Maybe even worse.

Not that this is an interpretation; the quote's pretty clear. It's just that there's no evidence that it was actually ever said.

There has been a post on the author's background, and he has published in a few places (not really hard to do). But it's not a stunning resume of investigative journalism. And the web site/publication? "Dick and Sharon's L.A. Progressive"? Not exactly a "name".

IMHO, they wanted to publish a valid, hard-hitting piece on Palin's record (and that part was good), but wanted a "hook" to give it a higher profile. They added the quote, which doesn't even seem to be the thrust of the story, to draw people in. I think they made it up.

Not that it's unlikely mind you (that she uses such words habitually).

If they want to play that game, so be it. They (and many here) might consider it fair play given the smears on Obama based on no real evidence. I wouldn't get too sucked in though.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:06 PM
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340. It's a published article. Deal with it. (n/t)
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:41 PM
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342. "Published" in the sense that I just published this post.
I used to publish an e-zine too (and back in the pre-historic mid-90's). It's not that hard.

If she routinely spouted language like that publicly (sure, I think she may privately), for one, the long-time resident of Wasilla in the thread just below this one on the main DU page would probably have mentioned it in their lengthy (and critical) description of her career.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 10:51 PM
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343. That's where you're wrong. DU is not a publication and your post
is not an article appearing in one.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:41 PM
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345. Semantics. Goodnight.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:49 PM
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348. Published does not equal true.
I would love to see this story go somewhere, but "Lucille, who asked not to be named?" I'm not yet convinced.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:54 AM
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362. But it does have the backing of a professional writer, editor, and publisher
whose are not anonymous and whose reputations rest on what they publish.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:35 AM
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416. Read the LA Progressive's "about us" section. They are not professional.
They say they have "day jobs".

The source is the guy's blog. Yes, he has been a freelance writer. That applies to me as well, and many many other non-professional writers. It's from a blog.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:02 PM
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418. Wrong. Read this:
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:40 PM
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438. Yes, yes. I had already read that. That's why I said the he was a "freelance" writer.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 04:45 PM by Brotherjohn
It pretty clearly describes him as one. I simply compared him "to me and other non-professional writers". I never said HE wasn't professional.

The people I said were not professionals were the editor and publisher of the piece, as you said they were. By their own admission, "Dick and Sharon" are not professional editors and publishers, as they "have day jobs".

Judging by the other pubs and his bio, my guess is his highest profile publication in Esquire was a review of a restaurant or something of similar nature. Okay, perhaps an essay (he says he's written many). "Former assistant editor" of Business Week? Published in some in flight journals and "St. Louis Magazine"? You are pretty easily impressed. I'd think that the fact that the hook of his story is unsubstantiated hearsay would somewhat dampen your impression. I don't care if Edward R. Murrow himself published this quote, it would still be unsubstantiated hearsay.

BTW, that bio you posted was from his... what's that word? Oh yeah... BLOG. It's a blog post; that's all this is (like much of what you read here on DU). And a non-professional news e-zine picked it up. If he had a tape of the quote, everyone would have picked it up. It registers a 0.5 out of 10 on newsworthiness.

If anyone even close to a reputable news source or the Obama campaign pushes this, it is going to play right into their hands and hurt Obama (unless their is a tape or some other verification).
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:43 PM
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450. Google Charley James. nt
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:43 PM
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346. Poor Sarah....still burning mad about losing the Miss Alaska crown to a black woman....
Mary Blackburn... :hi:

Wow...she's a racist on top of everything else....God help us all.... :scared:
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:39 AM
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360. They be the one that relys on a God
We need to call out the true dieties of the Presidential election...the American voters, especially our youth.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 PM
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351. ?
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 11:59 PM by Douglas Carpenter
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:02 AM
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353. Who is Charley James?
I don't get a whole lot when I Google him. This article and a few others from Vadimus Post. He doesn't seem all that objective. I'll have to see more investigation done on this before I take it for truth.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:05 AM
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354. She is nothing....nothing!
A slithering worm...maybe!
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:39 AM
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359. It will never make the MSM
The Repukes are insulating her from MSM scrutinity by saying the MSM is biased to liberals... What a laugh... IF I remember correctly Obama was under a Microscope for at least 10 months and every aspect of what he did and said was thoroughly reported on... Why is she allowed a pass?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:01 AM
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363. And I didn't need to read this to know this.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:19 AM
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367. Revolting
But she can deny it, and unless Lucille is prepared to go public, it can't be proved.

What can be proved, apparently, is that she was a Buchanan supporter. Which really comes to the same thing! I'm surprised it's not being used more against her.

Of course, it's probably just what really hard-core Republicans would approve of, anyway.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:17 AM
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369. I have no problem believing this story is true.
People who live in isolated areas that are openly racist often speak in such a fashion when they think they're surrounded by "safe" listeners.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:32 AM
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395. I don't either, but without proof it's no better than gossip
YouTube or it didn't happen.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:40 AM
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396. Well, that's your opinion, isn't it?
Contrary to your misapprehension, there is no video of most things that happen in life.

You're saying that for YOU to believe something, you need to see video of it. OK. That's you.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:43 AM
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397. No, that's not what I said
The story will not be credible to the TV-addicted public unless there is some proof more substantial than a story related by an anonymous person to a journalist that most people have never heard of.

I would not be at all surprised if the incident happened exactly as described, but without verifiable proof it's just gossip.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:05 AM
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399. you may be right about that
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obamacon Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:18 AM
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370. Hmmm....sounds possible
I'm not sure about the objectivity of the source, but I could see her saying something like that. I sent this out to a few people who are on the fence, and that is what I heard back- "not sure I believe it 100%, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true". Part of it is she seems to derive too much enjoyment from attacking Obama. In the 21st century, we really have to have zero tolerance for people of that kind of ilk.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:02 AM
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371. Do we know unequivocally that she made such remarks?
We have to be careful.

Do we have proof?

It would not surprise me, but proof is needed.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 04:31 AM
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372. bullshit
this whole article screams bullshit.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:02 AM
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373. That's not a detraction from a Republican candidate
It's a positive. For them, anyway. :puke:
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:18 AM
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374. Sarah Palin = Para-Stalin
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curious one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:20 AM
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375. I would be surprised if she was a normal person.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:25 AM
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376. Sambo's gonna beat two more "bitches" in November
Namely Five Plane McCain and Caribou Barbie.

And she's no pitbull...she's a rabid poodle.

She's gonna find out what a REAL pitbull is all about at the VP debate.

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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:57 AM
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388. this is a dangerous post
that could be quoted out of context and come back to haunt us!!

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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 05:39 AM
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379. i already knew about the mean and vindictive
add disgustingly racist. please, please, let this story take wing.

she is an absolute menace to society.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:15 AM
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381. I get this same vibe from Palin. nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 06:21 AM
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382. With 391 replies and 241 recommends, the DU tribe has spoken.
We believe there is a good possibility of a story worth pursuing here.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:28 AM
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384. Well at least she is less hypocritical about her 'ism's' than some of the
classy Republicans who pretend they are FOR and then manuever AGAINST.

The racism in this country doesn't shift from blacks and women to Latinos and Moslems. It retains racism and builds on it.

Long live Sarah - may she find the light.

Makes you realize how different Cheney is - he hides his hate better.
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fjc Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:28 AM
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389. Well it surprises me!
Did you guys read that screed? Was there a source sited for any of this other than some waitress who won't go on record? I mean, "According to Alaskans interviewed for this article"?
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:19 AM
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394. Oh Please!
Not another "Racial" distraction...


Will we ever learn?

Stick to the real issues people.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:20 AM
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400. GLAD that I saw this in time to recommend. AWESOME! n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:42 AM
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409. LOL...It begins...n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:42 AM
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410. I can believe it... she showed her mean, b*tchy true colors in Minn.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:44 AM
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411. how much visibility did Rev Wright get?
How much is this getting?

K&R
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:45 AM
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412. People who live in glass houses ought not throw stones.....
If we're going to throw out insults, isn't Sarah Palin the *REAL* definition of trailer trash? Someone with little education because she chooses to be an ignoramus, who hates anyone who doesn't give the appearance of being a white anglo?

Besides, with the growing list of reasons why this woman, if vetted, would never have been chosen as McCain's mate, she'd do better to shut her ugly-@$$ mouth about insulting anyone.

The last rumor I heard was that she had sex with her husband's former best friend and apparently this man is now asking the court to seal his record, so there must be something in there, perhaps testimony regarding why he ended up divorced. I'm sure the media wants to get its hands on it, but I'm guessing his palms have been greased by the McCain campaign.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:40 PM
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419. Yep, and the judge denied his request. Let the games begin. I'm
sure this is one of the smoking guns that the Enquirer has in its pocket.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 11:30 AM
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415. I wish somebody would go on the record with this
Or preferably two or more somebodys -- make it harder for her to deny it.
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faulknercindy Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:00 PM
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417. If the Msm would
pick this up she would be toast.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:42 PM
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420. Their followers are all bigots also (eom)
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 01:35 PM
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425. DNC and other Dem support orgs: RUN THIS ADD NOW!
The Gallop VP was on MSNBC this AM and said the next week whoever gets the lead in polls - now per Gallop 42-42, will likely win the election. His stats: one week past conventions, in 15 of 18 recent presidential elections, the one with the lead at that point wins!

Critical that Obama-Biden, DNC and other orgs put on a FULL COURT PRESS NOW in order to win in Nov!

That's All - Repeat this Palin quote "So sambo beat the Bitch" over and over again and get in front of every black and minority organization and womens groups, churches, family organizations NOW!

Let the voters know who this evil woman is now!
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:05 PM
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434. We have a winner.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:19 AM
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456. DNC runs the ad, and then this guy retracts the story
says he made it all up.

That's it for Obama, it's four more years of republicans, because the DNC was STUPID enough to run an ad based on the weakest story imaginable.

Then we later find out this blogger works for Rove.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:32 PM
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429. 
I have no problem believing that.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 02:46 PM
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432. You got concrete proof?
He said/she said - amounts to nothing.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:00 PM
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433. "So Sambo beat the bitch?"-Sarah Palin
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 03:08 PM by greyghost
Have you people learned nothing from Karl Rove?

There is no such thing as truth in politics, only deny ability. Don't
believe me, ask John Kerry.

"It don't matter if it's true, I just want to hear the son of a bitch deny it." -Lyndon Johnson

May her statement go viral.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:07 PM
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442. Damn straight! Make the sob deny it.
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Johnbluedude Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 03:53 PM
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437. All Republicans, with rare exceptions, are racist
That's why minorities won't vote for them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:12 PM
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443. Too late to rec, will kick. Good bit from article...
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 07:17 PM by uppityperson
Racism is everywhere and yes, is common in AK in places. "Arctic Arabs" yet her husband is now claiming that heritage?
According to Kilkenny and others in Wasilla as well as Juneau, Palin reduced progressive property taxes for businesses while mayor and increased a regressive sales tax which even hits necessities such as food. The tax cuts she promoted in her St. Paul speech actually benefited large corporate property owners far more than they benefited residents. Indeed, Kilkenny insists that many Wasilla home owners actually saw their tax bill skyrocket to make up for the shortfall. Two other Wasillians with whom I spoke said property taxes on their modest, three bedroom homes rose during the Palin regime.

To an outsider, it would seem hard to do, but an oil-rich town with zero debt on the day she was inaugurated mayor was left saddled with $22 million of debt by the time she moved away to become governor especially since nothing was spent on things such as improving the citys infrastructure or building a much-needed sewage treatment plant. So what did Mayor Palin spend the taxpayers money on, if not fixing streets and scrubbing sewage?

For starters, she remodelled her office. Several times over, as a matter of fact. Then Palin spent $1 million on an unnecessary, new park that no one other than the contractors and Palin seemed to want. Next, Sarah doled out more than $15 million of taxpayer money for a sports complex that she shoved through even though the city did not own clear title to the land; now, seven years later, the matter is still in litigation and lawyer fees are said to be close to at least half of the original estimated price of the facility.

She also worked hard to get voters approval of a $5.5 million bond proposal for roads that could have been built without borrowing. Anchorage may not be the center of the financial universe but, like good Republicans everywhere, Sarah Palin knows how to please Alaskan bankers and bond dealers. For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:12 AM
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454. Kick again. n/t
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:16 AM
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455. some google analytics on this story:
When it first broke here on the DU I "used the google" and got 46 hits on the title.

NOW I get 2,870!!

The word spreads. The MSM can't ignore this for long!
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zam Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:38 AM
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458. Update from the journalist who wrote the article.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:08 AM
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459. thanks for posting this! nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 10:37 AM
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462. Thanks for the link to follow up article by Charley James
Itd be easier for Lucille to hunt bears bare handed than to tell a lie.

:toast:
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VoiceofReason2008 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:16 AM
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463. INFORM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 10:18 AM by VoiceofReason2008
If verified these allegations will destroy the McCain/Palin ticket. This article MUST be passed on to the mainstream media.

If the allegations are true it will probably be possible for the mainstream media to identify sources who WILL speak on the record. If Wasilla is swamped with reporters from the national news outlets the truth will out. However, for this to happen the mainstream media have to take the story seriously - the more of us who contact them the more likely they are to do this.

Unless the major media outlets can back up the story with verifiable sources it will stay as internet gossip.
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