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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:43 PM
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I think I know what Kerry's strategy is
Kerry is giving bush the rope to hang himself

On the last day when bush accepts the nomination, he will present privitization of social security, medicare, and who knows what else

It is those items that he brings up which will destroy him

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King of New Orleans Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:45 PM
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1. Gawd I hope Bush touts privatization of SS
Iraq is an expensive fiscal mess (expensive in human terms too)

The Federal Budget is an expensive debt ridden mess, after inheriting a surplus.

With Bush's track record, who in their right mind would let Bush near Social Security.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:52 PM
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6. He'll push privatization without a doubt.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see the Democrats come up with a short, simple, and effective line to drive a nail into the heart of the idea. We absolutely need a few deadly soundbites.

As always, the Repugs will oversimplify the situation, lie about the costs, lie about the benefits, and get supposed "neutral" people like Greenspin to support them. Greenspin has already started doing his part, right on cue from Rove.

Sadly, the issue is too complicated for most voters. Their eyes glaze over and they stop paying attention.
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xcmt Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 04:32 PM
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10. An idea.
I'd need to check on the veracity of my statement, since I'm not exactly clear on what they mean by "privatize" in terms of corporate structure and such, but this might work:

"If social security is already underfunded, how is having a bunch of corporate fat cats taking a cut off the top of everybody's retirement going to fix the situation?"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:03 PM
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14. And that's exactly what the fat cats want
to do!

Wall STreet is salavating.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:12 PM
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11. Yes. The "ownership society" is their meme lately.
Yes they will push privatization. They've mentioned it lately, to pave the way. The "ownership society" is their meme these days.

Need to come up with counter slogans.

"Ownership Society of Fat Cats"

"Ownership Society by Corporations": Fat cats own the Republican party.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:04 PM
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15. They were talking about this pre Iraqi
war days, too, and then it died. Now they're going to resusitate it because they have no other plans.
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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 04:07 PM
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8. ss
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 04:11 PM by indyjones1938
You'd better hope that Bush doesn't tout privatization of Social Secuity, or the flat tax that he's now proposing.

He has an uncanny ability to take a complicated issue like Social Security, simplify it down to a catchy little one-liner like "I'm gonna let you own your own retirement," and the American people are so stupid and naive that they fall for it.

Bush does the same thing with medical malpractice reform. He champions "tort reform" and criticizes the "evil" trial lawyers for "driving up your insurance rates." The truth, of course, is that it's not the trial lawyers driving up insurance rates but the out of control insurance companies and HMOs, not to mention the legions of negligent doctors themselves who have soured the name of the profession.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:47 PM
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2. We'll see after the convention...
I've wondered if Kerry is waiting until after the convention, when Dubya lays out his phony platform, to start attacking. Lord, I hope he does.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:48 PM
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4. link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5810451

in addition, the idiot took away overtime for hundreds of thousands of workers
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 04:21 PM
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9. Thanks for the link. Oh God, we have to get this lunatic out of the WH.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:08 PM
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16. I'm sure and I'm a political novice...
it only makes sense because now is the repuke con time and everything else will get drowned out anyway..

Kerry's waiting for the best time to attack ..After the repukefest and before the debates.

Ah, the debates..a whole other venue...where cnn can say ..only good things about the mightychimp and terribly bad things about Kerry.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:47 PM
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3. Absolutely.
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 03:50 PM by speedoo
Kerry is the master counterpuncher (a much better description than "great closer") and in politics, effective counterpunching depends on giving your opponent enough rope to hang himself with.

I'm betting that the Kerry team already has a very clear post repug convention strategy laid out, with options, based on the likely dumbya second-term agenda, etc. that will be aired in NYC.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:49 PM
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5. Lots of us have been saying that.
Many use the term "rope-a-dope" referring of course to Muhammad Ali's method of letting a fighter run himself out of energy and then slamming him hard.

I think you are absolutely correct, and I am genuinely looking forward to the last three weeks of the campaign.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:10 PM
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17. Ohhh! I like that! I wondered what that..
"rope a dope" was.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 03:59 PM
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7. bush has enough rope to hang all of us twice over
don't count on him to "hang himself", either. at some point, the Dems are going to have to start reeling in the slack.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:49 PM
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12. Wish the DNC Would Just Copy and Distribute This Article
*********QUOTE*****
And you thought his first term was a nightmare
What Bush has planned for America if he wins.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Charles Tiefer

Aug. 25, 2004 | .... Under Bush's slogan of an "ownership society," the Republicans intend a long-term effort, using changes in Medicare, Social Security and taxes to pit better-off and worse-off Democrats against each other, offering all-but-irresistible incentives for some to desert the others -- and any progressive national coalition. .... A second-term Bush agenda will constantly impale Democrats on the dilemma of abandoning their poorer, sicker, older and minority groups, or seeing their better-off, healthier and younger members lured off to the other party. If it sounds like a political nightmare for the Democrats, that's because that's what it is planned to be. ....

********UNQUOTE*******

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:01 PM
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13. When I see "privatization of social security"...I see big
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 08:02 PM by zidzi
RED! I'm hoping Millions and Millions see it with me.

Does he think his snake charming ways can get the public behind this like the bogus Iraq war. Is he going to trot out greenspan to say it's a really good idea and bring along some smoke and mirrors?
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