Woodruff: Didn't Kerry bring this all on himself by making it a big part

[RoundRockD]

of his convention?

What a bunch of baloney! Did the swift boat liars start their 527 AND write a book in just a couple of weeks?

[Fenris]

1. Judy is a fucking idiot.

That's all.

[Cha]

40. I haven't watched judy in a couple of years..but

I can just see her saying something fucking Stupid like this.Fuck her and the fucking Corporate whore mobile she rode in on.

[WI_DEM]

2. yes

it's all Kerry's fault that he volunteered to go to Vietnam and saved some lives and got wounded over there while the Chimp-in-Chief went AWOL. I guess that is why Bush never speaks about his service record.

[DU9598]

3. Yep

And Bush will make 9/11 a big part of his convention, so let's gather a bunch of liars to make unsubstantiated allegations against him regarding his failures in foreign policy - opps, noboby needs to lie to highlight his miserable foreign policy record.

[shaolinmonkey]

4. Oh, of course. Highlighting your personal accomplishments

makes you fair game for slander and libel. Everybody knows that. Do they teach ethics to journalists anymore? Christ almighty.

[GOPAgainstGW]

5. I Like Her Plastic Face, then her Chewed Up Chicken Looking Neck, Ugg!!!

[lancdem]

Josh Marshall had a good response to that

when fretful Dems were emailing him. He said that argument was bull because Rove had this planned no matter what Kerry did.

[blm]

6. Judy works for the House of Saud who own CNN. They do not want Kerry

to win because he intends to tell the truth to the American people about the Saudis and their support of terror instead of the Bush family who covers up for the Saudis.

[bluedog]

7. whats she looking so smug about

today..she has a shit eating grin on her face and is trying to goat Glenn into some sort of sparing match.god,I hate that so called woman!

[oasis]

8. Why is CNN focusing on Bush's slim lead? When have you heard

the phrase "within the margin of error" spoken since Bush took the lead?

[bluedog]

11. wheres the I F'ed up story??????

thats the news.....bush screwed up and many men were killde and many more wounded!!!!!

[oasis]

25. A brief mention on Crossfire by Carville. That's all I've heard today.

[Paradise]

9. I wonder if she has any idea of how much she is despised! n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Yeah- He Should Have Never Gone To Nam In The First Place (nt)

Ain't she the sharpest knife in the drawer....


Not....

[RobertSeattle]

12. I guess I can attack Woodruff looks because she "brought it up"

[wurzel]

13. Kerry brought upon himself a deluge of lies?

This mantra of the Right drives me nuts. In the first place the only reason he brought it up at all was the incredible Repuke charge he wasn't qualified to be C in C. Secondly, the constant warnings by the media that he must define himself before the Repukes do. Thirdly, I don't think anyone could have predicted that even our lowlife media would have given a bunch of agenda motivated liars the platform it gave the Swiftboat Liars.

[LibertyorDeath]

14. I'd love to be in spiting distance of this media whore

she is such a complete c_nt

[jimshoes]

15. Yes Judy....

One candidate is proud of his service, one isn't. Guess which.

[BigBigBear]

16. I thought it was a mistake

all along for Kerry to over-play his Vietnam experience. His senatorial role in the BCCI investigation, POW issues and other things I think should have had a higher profile in the mix.

I'm not excusing the swift boat liars and their sludge, I think it was a mistake for Kerry to over-play that hand.

Vietnam will be a divisive issue for at least two more generations. Kerry should have known that.

[TheRovingGourmet]

17. Yes, and it was not like he did not know that the SwiftVets

were out patrolling about ready to throw the chum in the water.

[liveoaktx]

30. Absurd! Could ANYONE have predicted that an ad running in only a few state

and cable would get picked up 24x7 by every single media outlet, where the ad was not only shown gratis numerous times but eagerly parrotted by the lazy media? Maybe you did, but the tenacity of the talking heads to endlessly bring this up surprised me even in a world where the media is clearly partisan.

had the media been doing their job of INFORMING the public rather than entertaining, this would have been put to rest in fast order.

[TheRovingGourmet]

35. I think it was very predictable. These SwiftVets have been

around for quite some time in one form or another and, especially after 2000, it was a certainty that they would pop up.

[liveoaktx]

36. Not whether they would pop up again, but the amount of coverage

given BY THE MEDIA to scurilous nonsense.

[TheRovingGourmet]

37. It's dirty laundry; the media loves that. :) They will run with it

until it doesn't attract enough eyes and ears.

[no name no slogan]

22. Agreed. Most people are trying to FORGET Vietnam today

Besides, we saw how much "traction" Bush's AWOL story got in 2000 (i.e., almost none).

Most Americans don't give a fsck what somebody did when they were 24-- especially when it was only four months out of their lives. Sure, Kerry was brave and heroic in the Mekong, but he's had a much greater (and more positive) impact on the world in his nearly 20 years as a US Senator.

Also, it was known by many that the Swift Boat liars were laying in waiting, just biding their time before they unleashed their slimy accusations. They were already making waves during the DNC, hinting at what they were ready to spin at him.

Given past behavior of the Bush family campaigns (Dole and Dukakis by daddy, McCain and Ann Richards by Dubya), he and his people were not completely unprepared for what was coming.

[The Hair in my Nose]

34. Well Said! n/t

[dennis4868]

18. How in the F did Kerry...

bring lying about his record upon himself?

[Piperay]

19. Duh, of course he brought it on himself

he is a Democrat who is a war hero so of course with that combination he brought it all down on himself. :argh:

[KayLaw]

20. Makes sense

So because Bush makes a big deal of his Christianity, if a few of us lie and claim to have seen him worshiping Satan, Bush has just brought it on himself?:crazy:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

21. No - Bush started all this

Bush wore a military flight suit and landed in a military jet on a military warship. It's no coincidence that Bush chose to fly a jet, having also been a jet pilot for a brief time in the National Guard. Bush was clearly proclaiming on that aircraft carrier that he was one of the sky warriors, a fellow "top gun". If Bush had served in the National Guard in a mechanized tank unit instead, he would have visited a land base, driving a tank in full army battle dress instead of piloting a jet. As Commander In Chief Bush proclaimed "Mission Accomplished" as though he were the victor of Iraq. He later bragged about being a "War President", as Commander-In-Chief of an army on the battlefield. Bush opened the door on the issue of war experience and fitness for command and Kerry merely responded.

[Terran]

23. What a ludicrous statement

No Judy, he invited it by RUNNING FOR F*CKING PRESIDENT! Because any idiot knows the only ammo these people have against Kerry is LIES.

[Joanne98]

24. Judy has a disabled child.

She must need the health care really really badly. What a whore.

[ClassWarrior]

26. Didn't Kerry bring this all on himself by...by...

...by BEING JOHN KERRY??! Damn him all to hell!! I know, let's LIE about him...

[kwolf68]

27. NO NO NO

He didn’t bring on a massive propaganda campaign by what he did at the convention.

I have no problem with a legitimate, objective analysis of Kerry’s post-war activities. I think anyone genuinely seeking the truth will come to realization that Kerry, ONCE AGAIN, stood first in the firing line. He tackled that corrupt war that was feeding on America’s youth.

However, to suggest that Kerry is the cause of the propaganda tricks now being played against him is completely absurd. In other words, the perpetrators of these acts are simply “acting on” John Kerry’s desire to make his service a factor.

In regards to Kerry’s service, I believe it was MORE THAN a legitimate thing to bring up considering we are in the middle of that Middle East mess. If Kerry wasn’t willing to tell the American people he can lead, is tough, and will fight then that gives Bush (a proven draft dodger) a free pass. And in a time such as this, a most certain re-selection.

When Clinton was out in 1992, war service was not valuable to this extent. It made no difference what Clinton did during or after any war. Hell, he protested the damn thing, but the American people elected him because other issues were a priority. I even argue had Clinton been nominated today he would not be nearly as credible as Kerry is at this time. Kerry exploiting his Vietnam era legacy is well within the scope of smart politics in not only does he tell the soldiers that “I am one of you”, but he tells the American people he can be trusted to run the military.

In the end, “toughness” and “bravado” is in no way measured by the willingness to call on a trillion dollar military to blow up little brown people in far away lands while you sit back and don’t do anything other than use their apparatus as a photo op to “promote” your courage. Bush is a sham President. A sham because he was unduly elected and a sham, because of just how miserable of a “leader” he has been.

[liveoaktx]

28. Bill Maher's Answer to this Talking Point on Tavis S's show last night

Kerry's Fault?

[RetroLounge]

29. Well, if he hadn't worn a sexy dress

he wouldn't have got himself raped. (Sarcasm off)

RL

[Andromeda]

31. Blame the victim not the perpetrator...

I guess Kerry just "asked for it."

[LloydLib]

32. Clinton tried to tell them it is the economy not nam stupid

They would not listen. I think if Kerry had made the economy the key part of the convention and not all this war talk from 40 years ago, he would be leading and not defending over and these charges.

Maybe this is why Clinton is not around. He was smart in how to take on bush, never talk about nam but the economy.

I will set back and watch sadly this fight over who did what 40 years ago. Most Americans to know what your going to do now for us.

[AP]

33. So candidates shouldn't run on who they really are? You're just

stupidly inviting people to lie about you if you tell people the truth about what you've done with your life?

That is so idiotic.

I think it's ridiculous that Bush is president today considering who he is and what he has done with his life. And I think everything he has fucked up as president was indicated by his past.

But now Judy is saying that Bush is smart because talking about what you're really made of is bad campaign strategy.

This is really all a lesson in how much the media is willing to help smear people for Republicans and then cover it up with lame "perspective" when the cover is blown.

You'd think the real story is that these smear boat liars have brought some bad shit on themselves because of the lies they're telling.

[LTR]

38. Bush's has made an entire campaign off of 9/11/01

Wonder what he would think if the Kerry campaign's next ad would be called "Seven Minutes with 'My Pet Goat'".

I would KILL to see them do that ad! Seven minutes of Bush choking while thousands died in New York.

Bring it on!

[gulfcoastliberal]

39. WTF? Since Bush* wants to run on "terrorism" and "security"...

why the fuck doesn't the media cover this little fuckup called 9/11? The fact the CIA was screaming bloody murder about an impending attack, Condi Rice's ignoramous ass focused on purely cold-war missile defence, the complete and utter disregard by FBI HQ of the intelligence on the Phoenix flight schools, etc, etc?! Richard Clarke's book alone should be grounds for impeachment. Instead, the WH calls him gay and unstable. Remember that's what Wolfie said on CNN? CNN has been perverted from a straightforward news source respected worldwide to a cheap propaganda trumpet for the right wing.