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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:11 PM
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The Swift Boat ads are hurting Kerry, and someone needs to answer
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 11:13 PM by mzmolly
each charge directly ... with our own counter ads.

I think the DNC would be a good avenue for this? They should interview men who counter the swift boat liars and make a commercial of their own.

They should make an ad about Kerry's testimony, setting the record straight, and giving him credit for helping to end the Vietnam war.

We have to counter each and every one of these charges directly, we can't let this linger if we can help it.

I realize Kerry is doing all he can, but someone needs to step up.

I am not promoting a dooms day theory, I am saying evidence has it the LIES are sticking, and we DEMOCRATS need to act. :shrug:

As it is now, were at the complete mercy of the media, and more specifically *cough* Chris Matthews? :crazy:

Idears?
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:13 PM
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1. No, they are not hurting Kerry.
Apparently, they are doing no more than scaring hell outta some Kerry supporters, though. ;)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:18 PM
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3. I'm not scared, there is much time to recover. But specific polls show
that Kerry is seen as "less honest/admirable" etc. after these ads.

They have been effective. Kerry answered them to the best of his ability and continues to do so, but some of the guys he served with and one of our surrogates has to step up to the plate here.

The majority of Men who served with Kerry and the official record support his account, but the media is casting doubt and we need a DIRECT ANSWER in the form of an ad campaign.

The best way to do this is to have a surrogate group answer.

I am angry at what they're doing to Kerry, we should all be outraged here.

I refuse to blame the victim ie. Kerry because he's handling this well, but I do want to see a firm and direct COUNTER ATTACK. :hi:
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:43 PM
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13. Jesus Christ and the 12 Apostles could stick up for Kerry, to no avail
The media wouldn't give them any airtime. Or it would only ridicule and smear them, too. Twenty-four hours a day. Seven days a week. With short breaks for reality shows and infomercials.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:16 PM
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2. Which ship prompted this post?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:19 PM
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4. Ship #1. I just got done watching cable news.
I was on ship #2 earlier today. ;)
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:21 PM
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7. This late in the game join me on ship #3
We have a full stock of rum & will be riding out the rest of the storm in comfort!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:27 PM
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9. Hell yes I'm there!
:beer:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:19 PM
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5. The answer: debates
Most likely they will start in late September.
Kerry will rape Bush.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:21 PM
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6. Your correct. The debates will likely define this race. But damnit
I hate what they're doing to Kerry. :(

Oh well, off to bed. :hi:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:27 PM
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10. mzmolly. ive said this many times today but just in case you havent
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 11:32 PM by faithnotgreed
seen this. please check out the economist polls. the #s look great, the sample size is 2000 and kerrys #s have all gone up since the convention

hes only leading overall by 3 points but the breakdown of the #s (and there are many!) look very promising

this poll just came out the other day

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/YouGovH.pdf
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:30 PM
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12. Thanks, I think over all in the polls JK is doing good. He's just not
viewed as 'credible/honest' etc... as he was a couple weeks ago :eyes:

I watched too much Faux news and the like (analysis) tonight I spose?

Peace out guys, I'll check in tomorrow. :hi:

Thanks for keeping the ol' spirits a-float.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:29 PM
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11. I hate what they're doing to Kerry too
I haven't been this excited for a canidate since...Clinton (note: I'm 19 so give me some slack :D )
Kerry is tough as nails- he'll hold his own!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 11:26 PM
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8. Response to Bush was lackluster.
Not anger so much as whining and tattling. That only encourages bullies like Bush.

SBVT: Disgusting lies...
Kerry: This group is a front for the Bushies. Bush should specifically disavow these attacks.
Bush: No. I think I won't. In fact, I think I'll twist it into a way to counter your 527's.
Kerry: (Gets mad and kicks Bush's ass for a change?)
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