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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:54 PM
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What good is experience if you have poor judgement?
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 06:58 PM by Mzztakable
I was outside at work today, talking to a coworker who is from Turkey. He asked me if I had a nice day off yesterday and what I did. I told him that I chose to spend my day watching the DNC and reading about it on the internet message boards (okay, only this board). He said, "I think the Republicans will win." When I asked him why, he said, "Because McCain has the experience over Obama. Even the Clintons believe it." I said, "Okay, he's been in politics a long time, you can call that experience but I don't think it made him smart. For example, John McCain says he has the experience of being tortured when he was a POW, yet he agrees that the same experience for him is not torture for others. He agrees with Bush that it's "enhanced interrogation" and he votes against benefits for the military every time." I explained Jim Webb's bill and how McPow voted against it. My coworker agreed that it didn't make sense for someone who has had that experience or even served in the military to act this way. I told him that I like Obama because he hasn't been entrenched in Washington for the past 60 years, getting himself indebted to big business like a compulsive gambler to a loan shark. I said that I like Obama's plans for the economy, and health care, ending the occupation of Iraq, and getting back our respect in the world so we can be the good guys again. Still, he said that he thinks the experience thing will stick because it's what everyone is thinking about over everything else. Of course that's just how he's seeing it from where he sits. I find it very hard to believe that the majority would vote for more of the same when 85% of Americans are dissatisfied with the way things are.

On my drive home, I couldn't stop thinking about it. I wish I would've said more, or pointed out that McBush keeps talking about how he's going to catch bin Laden, boost the economy and bring the United States out of the mess we're in, but yet he hasn't used his seat to do a damn thing about it. I mean, why wouldn't he share these solutions with the chimp? Oh, that's right. Because he's a lying sack of shit.

Edited to correct a typo and incorporate Erin Elizabeth's excellent wording in the title.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:55 PM
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1. Or to put it another way,
what good is experience with a lack of judgment?

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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:57 PM
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2. Yes, that does sound much better. nt
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:58 PM
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3. I think Obama has actually said that.
I heard him say something about there's experience and there's good judgment and hopefully you have both, but if you don't, you'd rather have someone with good judgment, because without that, experience is nothing.

Something like that. Thought it was a great point.
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:00 PM
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4. I'm going to use the google on the tubes and see if I can find the exact quote. Thanks for the info!
:D
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:00 PM
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5. Another "experience" argument.
Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld had more executive branch experience than anybody on the planet when they joined the Chimpministration.

Look how well that worked out.
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:10 PM
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6. It's not an "experience argument" post. It's me needing more ammunition to fight back against that
mindset in my place of work. Thanks for playing, though.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:16 PM
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7. That's why experience is supposed to be valuable
It assumes good judgment from a life full of learning from experience. But I think we all know some people personally who never seem to learn. Little Johnny McCain is one of them. From his Vietnam War experience you think he'd learn compassion (because of his own suffering) and pursue peace so that no one will ever have to go through what he did.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:22 PM
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8. When you find yourself in a hole,you keep on digging?
Every time.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:32 PM
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9. Ten years of experience: Repeating the first year's mistakes for nine more years. n/t
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:43 PM
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10. Trying to appeal to the intelligence of some people is like trying to reason with a rock.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 07:45 PM by AdHocSolver
Unfortunately, a lot of people come up short compared to the rock.


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