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After Obama-McCain forum, Rick Warren sermon focuses on character

From the article:

"It was a powerful forum in that we were exposed to the soul of who these two men were," said Jim Christensen, 54, of Rancho Santa Margarita. "Before this, I only got what pundits wanted us to hear. Issues of character, issues of value, you don't usually hear those types of things."


Christensen said he was glad that Warren asked difficult questions, such as inquiring about each candidate's greatest moral failure. "It gave us a chance to compare and contrast how they could handle things in different situations," he said.

Warren told his congregation that someone had asked if there was any kind of president he would not vote for.

"I could not vote for an atheist because an atheist says, 'I don't need God,' " Warren said. "They're saying, 'I'm totally self-sufficient by .' And nobody is self-sufficient to be president by themselves. It's too big a job."

"Campaign 2008 is starting to feel like a Sunday-school Bible drill," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United, a group that advocates for separation of church and state. "I don't see what good it will do for the American people to again hear the candidates spout pious platitudes about their favorite Bible verses or how devout they are."

The group also complained that the event was hosted by Warren.

"Why should one of these important events be orchestrated entirely by only one pastor who comes out of one narrow segment of our diverse country?" Lynn asked.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/campaign08/newsletter/la-me-warren18-2008aug18,0,756581.story


There is no place for a church in politics and politics injected into a church make that organization a political body capable of influencing the views of others.

[NorthCarolina]

1. K&R

[zbdent]

2. "And nobody is self-sufficient to be president by themselves"

As I remember it, the only "self-sufficient" people are the conservatives ... who say "I'm a self-made man."

Of course, they don't say anything about how the "village" was used to help him learn to walk, read, eat, bathe, etc. ...

[FatDave]

3. I thought your post was simply going to say...

...because all churches should.