Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Corsi's claim that Obama posted "false, fake birth certificate" flatly rejected by HI Health Dept.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:07 PM
Original message
Corsi's claim that Obama posted "false, fake birth certificate" flatly rejected by HI Health Dept.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:08 PM by babylonsister
I just don't know what more proof anyone could possibly need.


Corsi's claim that Obama posted "false, fake birth certificate" flatly rejected by Hawaii Health Department


Summary: On Fox News, Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi claimed that the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama "has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website." In fact, the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that the birth certificate posted online by the Obama campaign is "a valid Hawaii state birth certificate" and has called speculation about Obama's citizenship "pretty ridiculous."

snip//

In an August 13 article, The Honolulu Advertiser reported that Hawaii Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo said that her office contacted the Obama campaign to find a solution to the repeated requests for Obama's birth certificate. She reportedly said that the Obama campaign "responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate." She reportedly added: "They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous." From the Advertiser article:

The Obama campaign said it has posted a copy of his birth certificate at www.fightthesmears.com in response to Internet chatter that the Illinois senator is not a natural-born citizen. But the posting has done little to curb the nearly weekly requests to the Health Department for copies of the original, Okubo said.

Some skeptics point to the lack of an official state seal on the birth certificate posted on the Obama campaign Web site.

But seals often are placed on the back of the birth certificate, Okubo said, "and whether it shows through depends on how much force was put into it."

Others wonder why a large black rectangle appears next to the words, "CERTIFICATE NO."

"The thing that's redacted is just our file number," she said. "Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system."


Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries "to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions," she said.

"They responded and apparently it isn't good enough that he posted his birth certificate," Okubo said. "They say they want it because they claim he is not a citizen of the United States. It's pretty ridiculous."


Additionally, Politifact.com, in a June 27 article, quoted Okubo stating of Obama's posted birth certificate: "It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate." Noting the unfounded "internet" rumor that Obama's birth certificate is "Photoshopped and a wholesale fraud," PolitiFact concluded: "There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact's conclusion that the candidate's name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn't authentic. And that's true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust."

more...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200808150001?f=h_top
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:15 PM
Response to Original message
1. I want to see McCain's birth certificate. Canal Zone, or Republic of Panama?
And how do we know who his father really was? In fact, could he have been switched at birth and not be the son of American citizens?

;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Papillon Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
2. It just occured to me
that Corsi book title Obama Nation is a play on the word abomination. Anyone else think so?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. I'd assume so n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I didn't catch that, but I'm sure you're right. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Yeah, sheesh--
How'd I miss that one?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I know! Duh! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Of course. (NT)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Little slow today are we?
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'm ok with the nuts fixating on this non-issue
it keeps them occupied while the grownups figure out how to fix Bush's messes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
10. Freeper Buckhead has been obsessing over the birth certificate.
Wasn't he the same one who oh-so-conveniently popped up with a seemingly encyclopedic knowledge of obsolete fonts and type settings immediately after the Dan Rather/GWB-TANG documents were released?


Either he's being fed this stuff or he's got some serious anal retentive issues. (Or some combination of the two.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Wow-same guy? I never even connected the two. I wonder if Dan
Rather knows what he's up to?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Yep, one and the same. I found this on a different blog obsessing over the birth certificate:
Jackson Pearson // August 7, 2008 at 3:00 am

Kirsten // August 6, 2008 at 11:19 pm

Thanks for the input. I do some graphics work with several Paint Shop Pro programs, however I’m far from being an expert. I do it for hobby and fun. I admire Techdude, Polarik, and Judah Benjamin’s research and writing skills, and have learned very much from their posts.

I got the open images tip with MS “WordPad,” or a “Hex editor” from a poster named “Buckhead.” He called the images forgeries when this story first broke. And I believe they’re forgeries too.

----------------

LG2 // August 7, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Jackson Pearson:

Wonder if you are referring to Freeper “BuckHead” who exposed RatherGate?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210662/posts?page=47#47

LG2

-----------------

Jackson Pearson // August 10, 2008 at 9:36 pm

To: LG2 // August 7, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Yep, that’s the same “Buckhead.”



http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/1521/



And, lest we forget, Buckhead is not just any Freeper with too much time on his hands, he is a Freeper with serious connections to the inner workings of the party machine.



GOP Activist Made Allegations on CBS Memos
By Peter Wallsten
September 18, 2004 in print edition A-18

It was the first public allegation that CBS News had used forged memos in its report questioning President Bush’s Air National Guard service – a highly technical explanation posted on the Web within hours of airtime, citing proportional spacing and font styles.

But it did not come from an expert in typography or typewriter history, as some first thought. Instead, it was the work of Harry W. MacDougald, an Atlanta lawyer with strong ties to conservative Republican causes who had helped draft the petition urging the Arkansas Supreme Court to disbar President Clinton after the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, the Los Angeles Times has learned.

The identity of “Buckhead” – a blogger previously known only by his screen name on the site freerepublic.com and since lifted to folk hero status in the conservative blogosphere – is likely to fuel speculation among Democrats that the effort to discredit the memos was engineered by Republicans eager to undermine reports that Bush received preferential treatment in the Texas Air National Guard more than 30 years ago.


http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep/18/nation/na-buckhead18


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:04 PM
Response to Original message
11. These people should see my BC
My original was lost by the Veterans Dept. back in the early 50s. My only record in a book is my name, date and place of birth. It is has nothing whatsoever about my parents.

I had a LOT of trouble even back in the 70s getting a passport. But hey, the NYC Dept. of Health put its seal on this information and the Feds had to take it. I am so glad I got my passport back then and not now. Long story made short, they HAD to take it from the 50s and 70s.
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:07 PM
Response to Original message
12. I agree that this is not Barack's real birth certificate.
In fact, Barack Hussein Obama in not even his real name. In reality his name is John Smith and he was born right here in Southern Illinois. Growing up John felt too lost in the crowd and knew he would never stand out with his name and background. So he began looking for someone that he could take the place of and he found a man in Hawaii that was willing to trade places with him. Of course to do this, he would have to adapt to a new name and the problems that it would present. He has done that, and now he worries that he will be exposed by this type of investigation. You see the problem is not that he is not a USA citizen, it is that he is just an ordinary one without a "exotic" background. :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 01:50 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC