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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:33 PM
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In the guise of humanitarian aid Bush dispatches US military forces to Georgia


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Bush dispatches US military forces to Georgia

By Barry Grey
14 August 2008

In a major escalation of the conflict with Russia over Georgia, President George W. Bush on Wednesday announced a “vigorous and ongoing” deployment of US military forces to its key ally in the Caucasus. Bush appeared in the White House Rose Garden for the second time in three days, this time flanked by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates, and announced the military buildup, casting it as a humanitarian relief operation.

Even as he spoke of a humanitarian mission, Bush made clear the military dimensions of the measures he was announcing. He said he was directing Pentagon chief Gates to lead the mission, which would be “headed by the United States military.” He announced that a C-17 military aircraft was already on its way to Georgia and that “in the days ahead we will use US aircraft, as well as naval forces, to deliver humanitarian and medical supplies.”

This is a formula for an injection of US military and naval forces into Georgia of indeterminate scope and duration. It will certainly involve the presence of hundreds if not thousands of uniformed US military personnel on the ground, and a substantial number of warships in the region. The US is introducing this military force into a situation that remains highly unstable and combustible, raising the possibility of a direct military clash between the United States and Russia.

Bush spoke less than a day after Russia and Georgia had agreed provisionally to a cease-fire in their five-day war. The agreement had been brokered by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, acting on behalf of the European Union.

Even as Bush spoke, Russia and Georgia were trading accusations of truce violations, and Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili was objecting to provisions of the agreement which, he claimed, failed to prevent the pro-Russian break-away republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia from seceding from Georgia.


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/aug2008/bush-a14.shtml
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:35 PM
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1. Pure garbage
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:37 PM
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2. ok
Why?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:12 AM
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5. For A Start, Sir, Because The World Socialist Web Site Is Rather A One-Trick Pony In Its Analysis
After having read a few pieces, it is not necessary to read the newer ones; they can be very accurately predicted. Thus they are worthless generally.

The U.S. does not have substantial military assets to put into the region. For better or worse, only the military has the capability to move appreciable quantities of cargo great distances on short notice, and so is about the only choice even for a purely humanitarian effort.

Mr. Putin is far too sensible to be bent all out of shape by the sort of token penny-packets that will actually be involved. He has made his point, he has gotten what he wants, and he knows it, as does everyone else involved.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 01:05 AM
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7. Hey there are things I dissagree with
I think there analyisis is spot on.

As far as US interest in the crists. Condidering that are certainly very dire crisis that we don't spend that much time on. Nor are we willing to expend ourselves millitariliy.

Also, I think their analysis regarding what conflicts we involve ourselves in is also a good read from their perspective.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:05 AM
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4. so it's been a few days and there's already a Humanitarian crisis requiring med. supplies?
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 12:07 AM by JackORoses
There hasn't even been time for the Georgians to use that which they already had.

no, this is a Military action.

If you want to see how fast Bush moves for Humanitarian needs just think of New Orleans.

They had to get some troops in there to protect the pipeline.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:15 AM
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6. Georgia Is A Little Place, Sir, And Has Been Shot Over Pretty Badly
This is merely a gesture, to a local leader who was very foolish in baiting the Great Bear, while under the illusion he had support in the outside world.

If the Russians want to break a pipeline in the region, they will break it, and no available U.S. military asset could stop that, and certainly none would be risked in the attempt to stop it.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 01:13 AM
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8. You're talking politcally
What about the needs of the people?

Not mention US business interest.

It wasnt long ago that Russia was chastized by Bush and Co for pumping out "too much oil"
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 01:55 AM
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9. Not Sure What You Mean, Sir
The Gentleman above seemed to be under the impression that U.S. troops were going to be shooting it out with Russians over the B.P. pipeline in a few days' time. That is not going to happen.

Neither the needs of the people nor U.S. business interests matter one whit in this situation. The U.S. is not going to pitch a major confrontation, or even a minor one, with Russia in the Caucasian region. The U.S. has no leverage at all there, and Mr. Putin knows that.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:18 AM
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11. Actually we do
That's why we are going in there. That area of the world is one of the richest in resources. Mainly coal, iron oil etc. Lots of US business interests are invested there.

If humanitarian aid is what's needed you don't send people with guns to do the job. You also don't airlift troops from Georgia back to Georgia from Iraq.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:16 PM
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13. I beg to differ. We have the wherewithal to inject massive air power into this conflict .
There are two aircraft carriers within range as we speak. Do I think it will happen? No I don't. I think that Bob gates is more sensible than that. If it were up to Cheney it might happen, but hopefully Cheney will not be in the loop on this one.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:19 PM
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14. Not So Easy As That, Sir
Russian equipment, manned by Russians, is equivalent to ours.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:45 PM
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3. I'm surprised they didn't just write a story saying we had all been killed by nukes....
and be done with it.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 01:57 AM
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10. As soon as two or three get killed Bushy gets to send a combat brigade in
and the Cold War is upon us again.

OIL AND WEAPONS SALES for everyone!! We win, the Russians win and we have shadow conflicts everywhere.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 01:34 PM
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12. up
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