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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:48 PM
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Did McCain Violate The Logan Act By Sending His Own "Delegation" To Georgia?
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 04:49 PM by cryingshame
Seems to me he and Leiberman and Graham have not only stepped out of the bounds of their role in the Senate, they might potentially be breaking a law.

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority. However, there is no record of any convictions or even prosecutions under the Logan Act
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:49 PM
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1. Does that include elected officials?
Didn't the righties have a fit and accused Pelosi of doing this some time back?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:51 PM
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3. Did Junior invest some authority for negotiating with them?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:55 PM
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6. He will if he hasn't once this is brought up
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:51 PM
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2. A law professor needs to be on KO tonight explaining all of this.
I can't see how that could be legal in any way.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:53 PM
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4. I am sure it will be an official
codel, same as Obama's recently. Good old Lieberman makes it bipartisan, officially at least.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:54 PM
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5. Don't Codels require authorization from Committee Chair? Lieberman isn't a Democrat
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 04:57 PM by cryingshame
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:05 PM
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9. Technically no
but as you well know, he caucuses with the dems, chairs a committee, etc. As to how codels are authorized, I have no idea, but what you say makes sense. If they go by armed forces, it would have to be Levin who is pretty no nonsense and I guess not easily intimidated. Maybe Lieberman can authorize it himself? We shall see....
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:56 PM
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7. Except, Geogia's President Has Outed McCain...
And has repeatedly referred to statements and promises by John McCain. Thus, this goes beyond a mere fact finding mission.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:06 PM
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10. I agree
but in all honesty, Obama's trip wasn't exactly fact finding either.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 04:57 PM
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8. Send this to Keith O!
KOlbermann@msnbc.com I think this is the email for him. Hope it's still good.
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CrazyDude Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:09 PM
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11. The Logan Act is unconstitutional n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:19 PM
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13. Well, if you said it, it must be so. (sarcasm) nt
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CrazyDude Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:24 PM
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14. The 1st Amendment says it, that's why it's so
:eyes:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:11 PM
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12. since you asked: the answer is no.
Not unless, of course, every other time a member of Congress has met with a foreign leader violated the Logan Act, which of course is not the case.

I hope McCain gets slammed for being presumptuous but trying to make this out to be a violation of the Logan Act is silly.
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