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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:53 AM
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Leave Laura out of this
I am dismayed to see slimy innuendo posts about Laura Bush. She is not running for president and I think it is bad taste to go after her. I have always liked her and she is nothing like her husband George Bush, who is the worst of the worst. Please stop wallowing in filth about a nice woman like her.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:53 AM
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1. She does dress funny
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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5. I hear she smells funny too.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:58 AM
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25. The best drapes are used in interesting patterns. Nina Kruschev had
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 11:59 AM by oasis
similar tastes. :-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:54 AM
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2. Fuck Laura
and her insipid husband

and her spoiled, unaccomplished children.

Barney is the only one in that family who has a clue.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:57 AM
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17. Well said.
:toast:
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denverguy Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:58 AM
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22. kinda hard to be unaccomplished two months
after getting out of college. You might want to give the daughters a little time. Or not.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:01 PM
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29. *ahem*
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 12:02 PM by CatWoman
one can accomplish plenty before, during and after college.

Chelsea Clinton took an active role in her parents role as the first couple/family.

She graduated from school, and is doing quite nicely.

All those bitches do is travel and get drunk at taxpayer's expense.

Don't start no shit, won't be no shit.

welcome to DU.

P.S. They might want to ease up on having the secret service bail their drunken boyfriends out of jail, too.
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denverguy Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:04 PM
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33. sorry to intrude
I didn't realize the depth of your hatred...we'll just have to disagree
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:05 PM
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35. Not a problem -- now you know
:hi:

again, welcome to DU
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:36 PM
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77. I agree! n/t
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:54 AM
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3. Then they need to leave a nice lady like THK out of it too
Pickles has been outspoken lately. And that just is asking to be critized.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:54 AM
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4. You can't be serious.....
She is not a nice woman. She is campaigning for smirky. She is fair game.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:56 AM
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13. No. I agree here. Argue on the facts, not innuendo
This kind of shit backfires. ;)
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:58 AM
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24. Fact:.....
She's a piece 'o shit!
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kyattaman Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:57 PM
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96. Argue on the Facts
I agree, let's not get away from the fact this country is being dragged through the mud by Bush and his war mongering profiteers. Laura Bush is not the problem. The shrub is.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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6. Nice Woman?
Who the hell are you talking about?

She's part of the campaign - and that means she's fair game at this point.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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7. a nice murdering woman
who most LikeLy met her husband in a brotheL.

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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:28 PM
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109. Yeah, you know, people are talking about this prositiute stuff...
what's up with that? Is it true??? I mean, people are talking.....

:shrug:
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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8. NOT!
Did they leave Hillary out of it for 8 years?

Laura Bush is doing more harm to woman's equality than anyone before her.

According to Laura Dearest, we're all supposed to be drugged out, smiling, walk behind your man and stay in the right place woman who "stands behind her man" literally.

Laura Bush is a joke and should be treated as such.
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LiberalCat Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:14 PM
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69. I agree completely.
The repukes made wives fair game when they attacked Hillary Clinton and Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Laura Bush barely used her education and her children are brats. She is a Stepford wife. Just telling it like it is.
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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9. If you don't want to read about it, then don't click on the posts.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:55 AM
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10. Don't you think it is hypocritical for a woman who had 3 abortions
to campaign for Bush?

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:56 AM
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11. No.
She is has made herself part of the Bush campaign team. The Stepford wife is fair game.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:56 AM
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12. I agree. "But these are serious allegations which need to be put to rest."
(angrypissedoffvengeful)

I'm sorry. It's open fucking season. If a handful of well-funded liars can gain a stranglehold over the political discourse in this country for THREE GODDAMN WEEKS, then why shouldn't we try it?

Lie loudly. Recant softly. Fuck them all.

(/angrypissedoffvengeful)

-MR

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:56 AM
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14. If there is anything to this story about "Bunny" I'm sure
that Kitty kelley's tell-all about the Bush family will have something about it. I doubt there is, but there are lots of other skeletons in the Bush family closet.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:56 AM
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15. she is a disgusting mean hateful rotten bitch and a murderer
she has attacked edwards and kerry. she attacked edwards for being a trial lawyer and she attacked kerry on stem cell research. she doesn't care for the victims that edwards defended. she doesn't care about people who could use benefits of stem cell research since she speaks on it but doesn't become informed about it.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:58 AM
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21. It wasn't murder. Manslaughter sounds more like it.
n/t
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:15 PM
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70. the dude is still dead..
he isn't going to reanimate anytime soon.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:56 AM
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16. She's an adult...she's been campaining for him
She is fair game. I haven't seen any slimy inuendo posts so I don't know if they have crossed my imaginery line of bad taste, but as far as I'm concerned she has never publically disavowed any of his policies or tactics, so she's fair game in my book.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:57 AM
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18. Okay, so it was the Bush boy who was a prostitute.
:shrug:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:57 AM
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19. I agree alos, but these are serious allegation s
That people are discussing. Her silence is not helpful.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:57 AM
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20. What is your problem...she is out there stumping for "w" fair game!!!!
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:58 AM
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23. She campaigns for her husband
and she raises money for the for him. She's fair game.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:59 AM
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26. It's Unfortunate When Civilians Get Caught In The Crossfire
But this is war. It can't be helped.

If she does not like the heat, she should stay out of the war zone.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 11:59 AM
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27. No no no: leave Dubya out of this!
I am dismayed to see slimy innuendo posts about George W Bush. He is running for president and I think it is bad taste to go after him. I have always liked him and he is nothing like his hussy bandida Laura, who is the worst of the worst. Please stop wallowing in filth about a nice man like him.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:03 PM
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32. Everyone should read this brilliant sarcasm
excellent, and I hope a thread ender.
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:00 PM
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28. She might as well be running, with some of the shit she does
Her policies are just as extreme if not more than her husband's.

She wants to effectively end medical research in the name of her religion.

Nice woman....
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:01 PM
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30. quinnox, I'm with you.
I personally think it's disgusting the way people have jumped on this bandwagon to trash Laura. It's one thing to go after Bush, but his wife and kids is another in my book.

I recall some right wing freak who went after Chelsea a few years back. Rush compared her to a dog, IIRC.

So if you guys think that doing this because the other side did it is fair, go right ahead. I'll just sit here and shake my head at this and wonder which side is better than the other.

Cyn:)
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:09 PM
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39. "...go right ahead."
We will! LOL!
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:11 PM
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41. Well, good to see someone agrees
I'm getting lonely in here, jeez.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:39 PM
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78. While I don't completely agree...
I understand where you're coming from. I would like to see us stick to the facts, and avoid name-calling and innuendo when it comes to Laura Bush. Calling her on hypocrisy and political gaffes like not being willing to share a stage with Sean Combs - to me, that's fair game.

Some of the other things I've seen in here are a bit over the top in my book.

However, I think the best any individual can do is hold themselves to the highest possible standard and lead by example. Asking others to do something like being kind to Laura Bush evidently opens the door to some extreme negativity.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:10 PM
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87. Up until
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 03:13 PM by fujiyama
she started making attacks on Kerry and Edwards I had no opinion of her. After she made those attacks though, she deserves all the scrutiny she gets.

I can't stand her annoying voice...Her and Elizabeth Dole...two very annoying women. It's like hearing nails across a chalkboard!

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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:16 PM
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47. Big diff.....
When Rush compared Chelsea to a dog, she was a thirteen year old daughter of a sitting president. She had little if any input on her father's action concerning his run for that office.

Laura's a big girl, actively campaigning for the Dim Son. She can take care of herself. After all, "looking out for number one" is a Bush family hallmark, don't you think?


--MAB
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:02 PM
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31. I agree with you. Focus on Shrub. There is certainly enough
ammunition against him and his disgusting administration that there is no need to attack Laura or the girls.

I sure as hell don't want to start acting like a repug by going after the wives and kids unless they politicize something like Laura and the stem-cell issue.

She is getting defensive about * and becoming more political which is going to start alienating more people. Otherwise, she is irrelevant.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:06 PM
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36. She said the Confederate flag was about heritage and not hate
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 12:10 PM by billbuckhead
when chimpy was in the South Carolina primary. Cheney her.

"Bush himself did not take a stand on the flag, though, slyly, his wife, Laura, publicly stated that she does not believe the flag is racist. In the closing days of the South Carolina primary, a spontaneously generated political action committee -- the Keep It Flying PAC -- blanketed the state with anti-McCain leaflets containing the Laura Bush quote. The McCain campaign has long charged the Bush campaign with directly coordinating the birth and activities of the Keep It Flying PAC. Any such link to the PAC would constitute a federal crime, but none has been established, and the Bush campaign has repeatedly denied any linkage."

<http://dir.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/04/18/mccain/index.html>
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:30 PM
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54. Criticize her on the issues. I agree with that.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:12 PM
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43. thank you, my sentiments also
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:05 PM
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34. Part of the campaign=fair game for Lady Stepford. n/t
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:08 PM
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37. If she only had a brain. She IS nice, but vacuous. It's easy
to be nice and pleasant, when you don't have serious thoughts in your head.

For the rest of us who aren't married to multi-millionaires, we have very serious thoughts in our head.

I am against rude comments about her appearance, but I think it's valid to remark on her stands on issues, or the lack thereof. She has an influential role in the presidential office, and her stands on issues directly affect my life. It is legitimate to criticize her on issues, or the fact that she doesn't seem to have a stand on important issues, or the fact that she agrees with her hubby on them, or the fact that she is "proud" of her husband for going to war with Iraq in the face of world disagreement. This is valid.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:14 PM
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45. Issues...Yes
But the some of the things said on this board is offensive to me as a woman. If she had any abortions, that's her choice. I'm pro-choice and I support ANY woman's right to choose. I am offended that a tragedy which involved a car accident and killed her boyfriend is used to beat her over the head with. I'm completely offended by the things that are said about their KIDS of all things.

You don't like Laura, fine. You don't like Shrub, fine. But for crying outloud people, their kids didn't ask for this. It's their kids...their daughters.

I just find it so hypocritical that people find the need to thoroughly debase a wife and children in order to feel superior.

Cyn
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:34 PM
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56. You are right. Why bitch about what the repugs do and then do the same
thing. I don't want to be like them and I don't think we have to be to win elections.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:09 PM
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38. Hillary & Chelsea weren't running, Neither are Theresa & the Heinz/Kerry..
...kids.

Try telling that to the republicans and their smeartitions!
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:43 PM
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82. I totally agree...
the way they're going after THK, they should be thankful that Dems have left Laura alone this long.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:10 PM
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40. I tend to agree and in general like Laura Bush too
I think she's probably a Democrat at heart.

But try to imagine if Hillary had ever killed someone with a car.

The right has the ability to scream and scream and scream and scream and scream and scream and scream their bile until it is the only thing that can be heard. Bill Clinton would quite simply never have been elected President if Hillary had done what Laura Bush did.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:12 PM
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42. Nobody even knew about what Laura Bush did.
I sure didn't know when Bush was elected that Laura killed her ex-boyfriend in a traffic accident.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:14 PM
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44. So? It means she was a bad driver.
If anyone were to try to make that as a point to demonize her in the real world, they'd get their ass handed back to them.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:26 PM
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53. I thought we did know
and that she just didn't want to talk about it, so that was that.

The difference is that right-wingers can get up an instant and eternal blood-lust of pure self-righteous hate against people and never stop shrieking about it, until their anger is the only thing that matters. Until their anger is the only thing being covered by the media. The death of Hillary's boyfriend would never have been an accident that was civilly and graciously not talked about. There wouldn't have been a day go by that you wouldn't have heard it twenty times on the internet.

I don't mention Laura's accident except when they bring up Chappaquiddic and I'm in a particularly bad mood. They continue to do that every chance they get. They love to talk about Ted Kennedy killing somebody, even after a third of a century. Hillary killing somebody would have been worse.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:31 PM
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55. Kids in a playground
That's what so much of this sounds like. One side pointing to the other and yelling 'you hit me first' so they hit back. Before you know it, nobody knows who started what or why.

Personally, I don't think stuff like that should be brought up at all. You do have a point about Hillary because they would have screamed until their heads exploded.

It doesn't make us mentioning this car accident any better than them, IMO. It serves no real purpose except to exploit a tragedy for someone's own benefit.

Cyn
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:09 PM
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68. No, I'm sorry, that's not what this sounds like.
Edited on Tue Aug-24-04 01:25 PM by Chris
What this sounds like is what it always sounds like: Republicans assaulting with virtual impunity, and Dems saying I won't go there. There is rarely a problem figuring who starts it or why. If you could find counter-examples they would be few and far between.

Have you seen Laura Bush in front of grand juries? Have you seen her defiled continuously by not just a few, but nearly every left-winger that draws breath? Have you ever seen a right-winger step into any conversation and say, 'Enough of this Hitlery the murdering dyke crap.' and then proceed to lay into someone? I'll answer that for you: not once in a billion instances of it.

The most insidious thing about right-wingers isn't that they are eternally angry, ugly and vicious. It's that even when the nastier of the nasties go far, far over the line, they can count on the silent support of the rest of them. Whether it's about Hillary or Chelsea or a stolen election or lies to start a war. There is no self-reflection or moral or ethical boundary present in the entire group.

I rarely even mention Laura Bush, both for the reasons you cite and also because I don't think it would be effective, but I have to say that in general, the Democratic dislike for getting into the gutter is hurting millions of people on a daily basis. The 'be nice' contingent always fails to take that into account, when in fact that is what matters most.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:15 PM
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46. I have no respect....
for Laura...last week she told all those that are now sick to give it up....stem cell research will not save you....she is a cold blooded asshole! Let her burn in hell with all the other members of the Bush crime family!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:18 PM
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49. Don't forget the children, dennis
:thumbsdown:

Cyn
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:18 PM
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48. Just lovely. Glad Dems talk about the ISSUES
Yes, let's just wander down the same putrid gutter the SBVT/BushCo have, just to prove to the American public that we're just as bad as the Repukes are.

Let's completely get away from the issues to sling the sh!t, just like the Repubs are, and show the American people that no matter who they vote for, they're getting "just another politician" who cares more about slandering the other guys than proposing REAL SOLUTIONS for what ails this country.

Let's play COMPLETELY into the hands of the Repukes, and go even MORE negative on the families of the candidates, because apparently the record of the current AWOL, job-destroying, ally-hating, warmongering president is just not BAD ENOUGH to wage a winning campaign on.

Oh well, maybe all the mudslinging will distract from the fact that BOTH the platforms and campaigns this year are about as inspiring as a bucket of lukewarm monkey piss.

Hooray.

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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:23 PM
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51. Ya gotta do what you gotta do.
And it's time to throw that shit right back in their faces.
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TNMOM Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 07:59 PM
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104. She is complicit in the marketing of Chimpy to Americans.
Her contradicting him about reading newspapers, her support of the ban on stem cell research, her stand on abortion, she defends the indefensible (Chimpy) --- all good reasons to challenge her. Laura is no innocent bystander to the erosion of American democracy. I have no sympathy for her at all.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:23 PM
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52. Good point
America does deserve better than this kind of gutter politics. What about the real issues facing people everyday, this is what the debate should be on.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #48
57. Yeah, right. Playing nice got us 4 years of Bush
And we need to learn to play in the dirt like they do or it's 4 MORE years.

Being the "gentleman" worked real well for Al Gore didn't it?

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:39 PM
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79. Gore didn't lose by being a "gentleman"
He lost because most people in this country couldn't tell the difference between him and Shrub. His agenda was so freaking exciting that HALF the population didn't even bother to VOTE, and those that did didn't see a dime's worth of difference between Coke and Pepsi.

Gore's numbers finally started coming up in 2000 when he started talking like a DEMOCRAT. Same with Dukakis in 1988, even when he played the "nice guy" and didn't resort to Bushesque smears.

Campaigns CAN be won on the issues-- if your issues and the positions you take on them are meaningful to the electorate. Clinton knew this, and he played the game well. Gore, like a candidate who relied on paid consultants and their "focus groups" more than his basic gut instinct, did not.

Right now, Kerry is letting the Repubs and the media allies DEFINE him. He's fallen right into their trap by tying his Vietnam service too closely with his leadership abilities.

He was in 'Nam for FOUR MONTHS. He's been in the US Senate for nearly 100× that long. Why isn't he talking about his Senate record?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:20 PM
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50. You mean "pickles" - the drunk driver who killed her boyfriend and then
went scott free?

That Laura bush*?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

"Nice Lady"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You and us have a different definition of "nice".

But thanx for the laugh!
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DemWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:39 PM
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58. What?
People used to think Babs Bush was a sweet old lady too, until the truth finally oozed out... she was a controlling, mean spirited, old bitch. x(

D'ja ever notice that Pickles seems to handle the "hot stuff". Confederate flag, stem cell research, etc. Don't tell me for one minute Rove isn't sitting on his fat ass saying "Pickles has good numbers, we'll send her out to soft cell it". :mad:

Screw that... she is as complicit in ShrubyaInc, administration as Andy Card, Wolfowitz, Rummy, Cheney, Asscrack, Rove, Baker, etc. She thinks she can slide by with her southern sweet tea voice and laid back Texas attitude without being asked the tough stuff... fuck that.
She puts herself out there, expect to be in the crossfire. :grr:

As for the innuendos of her wrong doing, well too fucking bad about that too. As much as Karma will kick me in the ass for this, it's payback time baby... I had to listen to 12 years and counting of Hillary's a murderer. Bill's a murderer. Hillary's a lesbian. Bill's a child molester. Chelsea's a dog. That BushBitch actually DOES kill someone and no one has ever fucking heard of it. If that we're Hill, it would be bigger than the SBV crap. Rush, Hannity, et. al. would be spooging in thier pants. So fuck her, she's as much of a target as anyone else, if for nothing else he willingness to be whored out by Shrubya for his own political gain. :nuke:

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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:40 PM
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59. How can we talk issues until she answers these serious allegations?
She hasn't denied these charges, and where's there's smoke there's fire.

She needs to put this behind her by coming clean with the American people.
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #59
71. What Will We Tell The Children!!??
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:41 PM
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60. Bullshit....
she is right there with him. The repukes didn't have mercy on Chelsea - - remember how they went after her and she was just a child??.... Laura is game - sorry. Though I personally do not attack her, I can understand others doing so. After all, she sleeps with the enemy, eats with the enemy and lives with the enemy. Therefore, she IS the enemy. If Teresa Heinz Kerry had killed HER ex-lover like Laura did, the smear campaigns would have it EVERYWHERE!!!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:44 PM
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62. I am completely disgusted
by this venom. It's almost worse than the conserv forums I've seen.

Congrats, people. You've sunk as low as the repukes in my eyes.

Cyn
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:06 PM
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67. well....
True, there is a LOT of residual anger from 2000 on our part, but NOONE stoops as low as the repukes do. NOONE. I wager you on that one.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:17 PM
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72. I'll take that wager
The conserv forums I've seen didn't go after the kids. They didn't talk about crap that never happened such as abortions and prostitution, they didn't go on about someone's looks or what their kids' do.

They did snarl at Teresa's wealth, her 'shove it' comment, her accent and a few other things. It was nothing near this level of contempt I'm seeing here.

Either way, it doesn't make it right. The debasing of families of politicians on both sides serves no real purpose except to make one feel superior over the other.

The swift jerks came out with lies and look at how much work it took to discredit them. They came after Kerry and his war record.

Taking the low road just because they did doesn't work for me when it comes to the families.

This fight is Kerry vs. Bush. This fight is getting that liar and thief out of the white house. We should be working to that end and not wasting time debasing a wife and children just because some think that it's okay since the other side fired the first shot.

No matter how anyone slices it, excuses it or justifies it, this is just plain wrong.

Cyn
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:33 PM
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76. You obviously have NOT
read the hate mail this site receives everyday from lovely "christian" republicans. Not to mention Rush Limpballs attacking Chelsea when she was a child. If there is ANY question about who is filled with hate, just check this out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/mail/hatemail_23.html
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #76
84. And what purpose does that serve??
Since they said things you didn't like, that means it's okay to do the same thing???

Do you have any idea how childish that sounds???

:eyes:

Cyn
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:08 PM
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85. It means that I understand why there are those
who do!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #60
65. all quite true
repukes will go after second cousins once removed when they have an ax to grind.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:43 PM
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61. No,I won't - sorry if that bothers you, but tough shit.
Despite her generally rumpus-room-sofa appearance and her Thorazined affect, I don't dislike her as personally and viscerally as some posters here do.

That said, she is actively campaigning for her husband, busily working to advance the shitty policies he supports and promulgates, and doing her damndest to reinstall The Littlest President for another four years. In doing so, she has pasted a big fat political on her back and entered the arena. Let the games begin.

I'll agree to pronounce Mrs. Bush off-limits when the Pukes do the same to Mrs. Kerry. Otherwise, no deal.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:44 PM
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63. I agree, quinnox
This sorta crap is contemptible!

:puke:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:51 PM
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66. good to see
At least there are a few who agree.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:10 PM
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98. More than a few, amigo
Some of us remember campaigns that had more to do with SUBSTANCE than mudslinging. All of Paul Wellstone's campaigns immediately come to mind. Even Dukakis's, too, until the Willie Horton BS started, and Mike D. went for that tank ride..... :crazy:
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:45 PM
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64. Sorry, no sympathy for Laura
Sorry, but ANYBODY who helps GWB and his cohorts to destroy this country is filth. No one is exempt, not even Laura. She could speak up or divorce him- everybody has a choice.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:26 PM
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73. I'm sorry but the republicans have portrayed themselves as
family oriented and Democrats are trying to destroy the family unit. It needs to be brought to peoples' attention that they are two faced. It was ok for Gingrich to have an affair with an intern but it was an impeachable offense for Clinton. Henry Hyde and Bob Barr could try Clinton for a blowjob but they could have affairs and/or pay for an abortion and it's ok. Rush can be a drug addled asshole but Clinton gets busted for saying he tried pot "but didn't inhale". Give me a break. When we start taking these idiots down to the level that they crawled out from then maybe we can leave their personal lives out of it. Remember, they started it.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:28 PM
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74. I would've agreed with you
If she'd stuck to her role as "comforter-in-chief." However, when she starts coming out and making statements about policy then she's fair game.
The "smears" you see on DU now are satirical...they're making the point that anyone can start a rumor about anything and then call on someone to disprove it.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:40 PM
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80. well said! and agreed!!! n/t
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:41 PM
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81. They are going after Teresa like crazy
so why not? She's a Stepford wife.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 01:45 PM
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83. no! all Repukes are fair game.
she's campaigning for The Naked Ape ain't she?

that means she engages in duplicitous revolting LIES about a murderous scum with no conscience, a total loser who has NOTHING GOING FOR HIM.

so Laura, Michele, Manthrax--all you Repuke traitors to your sex (ie, campaigning for the oppressors) are fair game.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 02:10 PM
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86. I would agree if the threads were serious. i took them as satire
to illustrate the depravity of the other side. I guess irony doesn't come across well online to many.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:46 PM
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91. That's how I read it
The poster who came up with this "Bunny" Bush thing was trying to lampoon the tactics of the right. (Swiftvets for instance?) Take a public figure. Make an outrageous fabrication about that public figure and then work back. Weave hearsay and slimy innuendo into the mix with the goal of repeating the lie so often it becomes truth.

This is not gutter politics it's just somebody with a sense of humor maybe too sophisticated for his or her own good.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:13 PM
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88. I agree-trashing Laura doesn't help Kerry.
I know they did it to Hillary and Chelsea, but I'm a better person than Rush Limbaugh, so I don't need to say mean things about politician's wives and children to feel better about myself.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:14 PM
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89. I agree
she would make a great babysitter.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:16 PM
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90. If both Mrs. Bush and Mrs. Kerry are going to comment on issues
then they're fair game. It's not our faulty that Mrs. Kerry makes more sense.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:48 PM
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93. So it's OK if the republicans call TH-K a prostitute?
:wtf:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:50 PM
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94. That's Beyond The Pale....
There are even things I wouldn't accuse the Simian In Chief of.....
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:47 PM
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92. I Don't Like Laura Bush...
She's a reactionary homophobe but some of the attacks are over the top....


And I don't like Barbara Bush either....
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 03:56 PM
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95. I think it's counterproductive...
.. having said that. I don't "LIKE" her. "she's a nice woman". Have you met her? Is she a friend? What info would you have to base that on? The same info that makes people think Bush is Godly? Just wondering, because she seems to be pretty dull, and she happily shilled against families who are seeking hope with Stem Cell research. She supports a man that is responsible for thousands of civilian deaths in the middle east, and of course.. the deaths of our military over there. Hard to say I "LIKE" her. I tolerate her, but don't wish her ill. How'ze that?
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:07 PM
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97. Would it make you feel any better
If we called it "collateral damages"?

Seriously, though I understand your point, after all the years of listening to Hillary get nailed (and Chelsea who was just a kid) and now hearing them shit on THK all the time, I don't really have much of a problem with a little Pickles-bashing. I don't know what you find appealing about her - she's shown no personality as far as I can see nor has she done squat to advance any ideas or projects of her own. And I don't know how you can know she's "nothing like" him.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:29 PM
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99. Did you ever hear anyone ask the Republicans
to leave Hillary Clinton alone? I think not. And it was certainly personal and sheer evil.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:35 PM
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100. I don't much like her -- she gives me the willies, truth be told -- but I
agree. Let's stick to the real issues. There is ever so much to go on there, we really don't need to stoop to their very low level.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:40 PM
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101. Prostitutes are people too.But killing one of your johns with you car,I
mean come on.
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:24 PM
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102. Can we go after her for her views in public?
Or is that bad taste too? I know you like her and think she is a nice woman. If not, you might want to go to a faith based board.

She spoke out in PA about stem cell research, as if she really had a handle on the topic. If she wants to make public statements then she will be held to public scrutiny. Cures are found in research.

She failed to mention, her husband fired the leading scientist on the subject in Feb.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/2004-03-19-fired-bioethicist_x.htm

"Blackburn's defenders think she was dismissed, rather, because she disapproved of the Bush administration's highly restrictive position on stem cell research, a stance many top scientists complain is hindering disease research in a promising area.
"Liz is an important example of the absolutely destructive practices of the Bush administration," said University of Chicago medical professor Janet Rowley, also a member of the bioethics council.
Embryonic stem cells are created in the first days after conception and give rise to the human body. Many researchers hope to someday turn stem cells into medicines by manipulating their growth, but social conservatives oppose the work because it involves destroying embryos."
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 06:19 PM
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103. Too bad
the repukes didn't have that same attitude about bad taste and slime heaped on a First Lady when they accused Hillary of committing murder.
I'm waiting for them to stop, then maybe.....:shrug:
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:09 PM
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105. If she wants to be left out
she better divorce the chimp.

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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:10 PM
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106. I know several current and ex sex workers
and one of them may even have killed a john. I like them all a heck of a lot better than I like Laura Bush. If I could get in touch with any of them right now (the sure as hell don't work in Jackson Hole!) I'm pretty certain any of them would be pissed to have Laura included in their ranks.

Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY
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cidliz2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:21 PM
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107. How many good people sleep with the devil?
The very fact that she is MARRIED to this guy takes her out of the "nice" category. She is 43''s partner, what he does she is "part of". That is what a good wife is and does.

She defends him at every calling. She is NOT innocent.

Just because she is demure, and seemingly "laylike", that doesn't make her a good person.

Logic should tell you easily, if you live with the devil, you must be in Hell.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 08:27 PM
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108. F*ck that. She asked for it
You don't like, use the ignore thread button.

RL
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