Obama is missing a good chance to get back at McCain!

[glarius]

I wish Obama or someone speaking for him, would point out the fact that every time McCain talks he says..."when I am president." I mention this because the Repubs are constantly bleating that Obama is arrogant and presumptuous...acting as if he is already president. I just heard a portion of a speech McCain said today and once again he said "when I am president." In my opinion he is the presumptuous one! WHY IS NOBODY POINTING THIS OUT?

P.S....Perhaps they could also point out how nice it was on Obama's trip not to see American flags burning or an American president burning in effigy!!!

[Richardo]

1. They both say that

EVERY presidential candidate has said it.

[Thrill]

2. If Obama says it its arrogance....

[babylonsister]

3. They both say that; they're supposed to. It's called 'confidence'.

I think you're worrying about the wrong thing.

[glarius]

4. But they are using it only against Obama!

n/t

[babylonsister]

5. What are you talking about? Who's using 'what' against Obama?

McGrumpy saying, "when I'm president?" How is that using anything against Obama? They both say this. Don't sweat the small stuff.

[glarius]

7. I guess I didn't make myself clear....what I mean is

The media and Repubs are saying that Obama is taking his election for granted and are acting as if McCain is so modest. They call Obama arrogant. Right now as I'm typing this, CNN is doing a whole thing on it. They're saying some people are saying Obama is acting like he's already president.

[babylonsister]

10. The media is not Obama's friend. You're going to be hearing a lot

of that. I've noticed a slight push back today from the media, being somewhat critical of McCrabby. I'm hoping it will get better, but they've been criticizing Obama for awhile now, because that's all they've got.

[Gabi Hayes]

11. har....as you were watching CNN, I was watching MSNBC,where

Todd Harris and Barnicle were having GREAT fun showing the latest attack ad on just this subject, and spent the entire first segment attacking Obama for being too elite, too arrogant, too presumptuous

I'll bet Fox, though, is being much more even handed in their treatment, don't you?

that would make three for three in media complicity with the Right Wing agenda on this topic

what else is new?

[glarius]

12. I just hope they don't influence people to be against Obama !

[Gabi Hayes]

15. it appears that's part of their job description

'twas ever thus

ever read Bob Somerby on what they did to Gore, including the hideous Dana Milbank, who admitted in quotes that the press HATED Gore because they thought he acted "better than we were"?

[Gabi Hayes]

8. the Media is carry right wing water BIG TIME on this. that's what they're talking about.

it's become an attack meme, one of the arrows in their anti-Obama quiver, along the lines of Kerry French, Gore Internet

it's one of the things you'll see repeated for the rest of the campaign, in an attempt to paint Obama as arrogant, out of touch, presumptuous. this will not go away, and Todd Harris admitted today on Hardball that the pugs' goal is to make the entire campaign about showing that Obama is NOT ready to be president.

and the other posters are completely correct in being pissed that the media are ONLY highlightin instances of Obama's presumptuously acting like he's president.

completely unbalanced approach, and, even worse, they're just PARROTING right wing talking points. really disgusting

[Ian_rd]

9. Yeah, I'm with you on this

It's very common for candidates to say that exact phrase. I know I've heard it many times. It's stronger language than "If I'm elected," and as we all know - you can't elected in America if you're not perceived as stronger than the other candidate.

[Gabi Hayes]

13. except McCain doesn't say "if," he says "when."

the M$M are definitely in the tank with the republican message of the day....never one word about McC's presumptuous assuming that he's GOING to be president, not the possibility. words have meaning, and the M$M is dissecting EVERY single word/gesture/action Obama has taken, while giving McC an almost free ride

last week it was their catapulting the BS McCain ad about stiffing the troops

NOW it's the latest attack ad on Obama the rock star

I've seen it three times in the last hour, not as an ad, but as a topic for discussion

how come you NEVER see any Obama ads going after McC being discussed?

[Gabi Hayes]

6. Monty....I'll take door number three (meaning post number three):

the media is HAMMERING Obama like I've never seen before with the garbage meme that he's being too presumptuous

did they go after Kerry for that? Gore?

it's ubiquitous, and they're going after this point right now on Hardball, after playing the new McCain attack ad TWICE, showing him w/Brittney and Paris

Barnicle and Todd Harris ganged up on poor, simpy Steve McMahon for the first thirteen minutes of the show

[babylonsister]

14. Kerry, yes. Remember how they made fun of him because he

could speak French? That's only one instance that comes to mind.

[Gabi Hayes]

17. see post number eight, this is all part of their scheme, which they readily

admit.

they're trying to make the election about Obama, in order to take the focus off the worst eight years in the history of the AMerican presidency

they succeeded in doing the SAME thing about Kerry, when the focus should have been the worst FOUR years in the history of the American presidency

and there was only ONE way they were able to do it: a monolithic corporate media which was completely in bed witht eh republican party (see Time Magazines belated article, The Boiler Room, or something like that, run after the campaign, in which Barbara Comstock's role in feeding propaganda to people like TIM RUSSERT, which they spewed out onair unedited, was highlighted)

people have no CLUE as to just how bad it is

even here

[glarius]

18. Then Obama and his people should fight fire with fire by pointing

out McCain saying "when I'm President/" They could show clips of the many times he says it. Repeat and repeat....just as the Repubs do!

[TahitiNut]

16. Let's be honest... calling McCain an "Uppity White Man" just isn't as rooted in Americana.

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