The new Kerry ad SUCKS!!! (One might say, "sucks donkey")

[troublemaker]

This refers to a new Kerry ad I just saw on TV (not the John McCain debate ad, which I love, but is so far only on the internet)

The new TV ad says that Bush is attacking Kerry's record, and that Bush did it to McCain and now he's doing it to Kerry.

This is amateur hour. A presidential candidate is supposed to act, not be acted upon. If Bush is now "doing it to Kerry" then Kerry is painted as a rape victim. That's a short-cut to defeat.

The correct political form is to stand up for the rights of people who cannot defend themselves, not complain about your own powerlessness.

Wouldn't this be more effective?

Does George Bush have a problem with people who fought for America? In 2000 he backed smears attacking Vietnam veteran John McCain's honorable service record, and questioning the loyalty of men who faced torture while serving America. Today Bush is backing smears against Vietnam veteran John Kerry; smears that paint the enlisted men Kerry led in battle as cowards and liars... President Bush even refuses to distance himself from lies that question the worth of every medal ever won by any Vietnam veteran. The best way to support our troops is to get rid of Bush and his anti-military smears. America can do better.

[Trajan]

1. Much ado about nothing ....

this is nit picking ...

[troublemaker]

12. Most TV era elections are decided by nit-picking

[ronnykmarshall]

2. Are you talking about with one with McCain?

I think it works great.

[troublemaker]

8. The McCain aad is great. The new TV ad sucks.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

3. The internet ad with McCain is MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE

Why they aren't putting it on TV is a mystery

[jackstraw45]

10. Kerry's campaign isn't exactly showing grace under pressure, IMO

They were caught off guard and now they are on the defensive spending WAY too much money on this issue.

Why even DEVELOP the internet only ad if you're going to develop a 2nd one?

That's even MORE money from the dwindling $75 they have left to spend.

*Shaking my head*

We CAN'T lose this one folks.

[Trajan]

14. Wrong ...

You spend money when it does the most good .... not according to a preset plan that doesnt take into account a changing battlefield ...

NOW is the time to go after the SBLiars .... NOW is the time to MAKE CLEAR that his duty was honorable, and that Bush failed to do his duty .....

This SBL fiasco is going to be a godsend for Kerry, since it focused on what Kerry had done .... and on what Bush did not do ....

NOW is the time to make the disinctions, while the media is on tap ...

[jackstraw45]

16. No..the TIME to go after them was when they first gained traction

that first week...not a MONTH after they've been spewing lies.

Their timing was off and now, instead of one forceful smackdown, they are playing catch-up with THREE costly ads that each cost money to produce and even more to air on TV.

But feel free to live in your own vision of reality.

If we all think like that, we'll have 4 more years to ask what went wrong....

[Trajan]

18. Yeah ....

Not listening to you cost us the last election ...

I see what you mean ....

The 'Best time' to respond is NOW, and NOT whine and bitch and moan about missed opportunities that have already passed us by ....

There is more than one way to skin a cat, and though Im sure you know the only 'true' way, I didnt think that ad in question was SO bad as to deserve a bunch of whining and hand wringing here ....

Then again: I didnt listen to you last election: and see what happened ?? ...

[Monte Carlo]

4. You mean the one with the 2000 Republican debates!?

The one where McCain says that Bush should be ashamed, and that America can do better? If so, I must disagree. I thought it was great!

[Connie_Corleone]

5. I think the poster is talking about the TV ad.

It's not hard hitting enough.

[Tarheelhombre]

7. The internet ad was potent, the tv ad is weak

[troublemaker]

9. The McCain aad is great. The new TV ad sucks.

[kentuck]

13. McCain may have requested that his likeness not be used on TV...

Or if they do use it, they may think McCain will ask them to withdraw it...That would look like "weakness".

[Monte Carlo]

17. Whoops. I live in MA, so...

... we've gotten a bare minimum of campaign ads this year. I'm in the dark over here.

[Mistress Quickly]

6. Also, isn't the credibility of McCain

in question here in relation to Kerry? I mean, he says that stuff about bush in the 2000 election, but now he is campaigning for him now. To an uninformed person, it comes across as forgiveness, McCain forgave bush, so bush couldn't have been that bad right? (sheeple thinking)

[markses]

11. AAAAAAAAAHHHHH! OH MY GOD!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAH!!!! HOLY!!! AAAAAAAAAH

You done?

[LiberalBushFan]

15. The McCain debate ad is internet only?!?

Shit. For a second I was optimistic that Kerry was doing something right. And the TV ad does suck.

[ItsMyParty]

19. Indeed, you writing of the message is so much better. It is a message

of power. It brings vets to Kerry's side as they say "yeah, that's right, asshole, you are insulting and questioning all of us you loser". At this level of the political ladder with the money that is spent on these ads, there is no excuse for the kind of ad writing we have so often seen. You ad affixes the blame to Bush and shows Kerry standing with the people who served against the person who ran away.

[Karenina]

22. Monday morning QB...

MUCH better writing, ('cept forgetting Cleland) I give you that! ;-)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Did Someone Fellate A Donkey?

Who?


Who?

[qwertyMike]

21. I think it's GREAT

"Get back to the issues"

All that swifvet shit was designed to keep Kerry busy.
Anything but the issues. Now the swiftvet thing is dead. Timing's perfect. Almost September. The Mantra now should be "Let's talk issues"

[Southern Patriot]

23. Exactly. Do something to put the Bushies on the defensive

for a change.

Introduce another dynamic in the discussion and make them react to Kerry.

Here's one idea: I think that seniors are getting pretty dissatisfied with the medicare card. Put together a a media/pr campaign combining senior organizations and the Kerry campaign. Start hitting hard with senior first person "horror stories." Highlight Kerry's alternative. Best of all do it in Florida, NYC (for great media coverage) and Ohio.

Make Bush defend his legislation against your grandparents' complaints.