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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:26 PM
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Poll question: Bush approves soldier's execution
Bush approves soldier's execution
By MIKE ALLEN | 7/28/08 9:09 PM EST Updated: 7/28/08 9:09 PM EST Text Size:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/12129.html

President Bush on Monday authorized the execution of an Army private convicted of a spree of rapes and murders in North Carolina in the 1980s.
Photo: AP



Citing "brutal crimes," President Bush on Monday authorized the execution of an Army private convicted of a spree of rapes and murders in North Carolina in the 1980s.

It was the first time a commander in chief has affirmed a military death sentence since 1957, half a century ago.

The solider, Ronald A. Gray, committed the crimes in the Fayetteville area while stationed at Fort Bragg.
Gray has been on the military's death row at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., for 20 years.

White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said in a statement on Monday evening:

"President Bush this morning accepted the recommendation of the Secretary of the Army to approve a sentence of death for Army Private Ronald A. Gray, affirming the sentence that resulted from a general court martial for multiple charges of murder and rape committed while serving as a member of the Armed Services. While approving a sentence of death for a member of our Armed Services is a serious and difficult decision for a Commander-in-Chief, the President believes the facts of this case leave no doubt that the sentence is just and warranted. Private Gray was convicted of committing brutal crimes, including two murders, an attempted murder, and three rapes. The victims included a civilian and two members of the Army. Because additional legal challenges are expected in this case, we will decline to comment further. The President’s thoughts and prayers are with the victims of these heinous crimes and their families and all others affected."

Here's a White House backgrounder on the issue:

The military death penalty

• In the military justice system, a member of the Armed Forces cannot be executed until the President “approves” the death sentence. Thus, unlike the civilian context, where the President may be asked to exercise his clemency authority to stop an execution, in the military system, the President effectively orders the execution. This is an important distinction.

• This is very rare. The last President to act on a military death sentence was John F. Kennedy in 1962, when he commuted a death sentence to confinement for life. President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved the last military execution in 1957; it was carried out in 1961.

• In accordance with the UCMJ, the Secretary of the Army submitted a formal recommendation to the President recommending he approve the sentence.

Facts of this case

Army Private Ronald A. Gray engaged in a spree of four murders and eight rapes in the Fayetteville, North Carolina, area between April 1986 and January 1987.

• Gray pleaded guilty to two murders and five rapes (in addition to other offenses) in North Carolina State court; he was sentenced to three consecutive, and five concurrent, life terms.

• Gray was then tried by general court-martial at Fort Bragg (82d Airborne Division) for separate offenses involving three women, two of whom served in the U.S. Army, one of whom was a civilian. ...

• In April 1988, the court-martial convicted Gray of premeditated murder (two specifications) and unanimously sentenced him to death. Since then, his sentence has been approved by his command, the Army Court of Military Review, and the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. The Supreme Court has denied certiorari.

• In accordance with the UCMJ, the Secretary of the Army recommended the President approve the sentence.

• Although not required by statute, the President asked the Attorney General to confirm that the President had full legal authority to approve, commute, or remit the death sentence.




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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:34 PM
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1. I would commute the sentence
Because I oppose the death penalty. The constitution doesn't require the President to have any justification for his/her use of the pardon power. God knows Bush didn't have one when he pardoned Scooter Libby.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:18 PM
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10. The president does not need to pardon him - he cannot be executed
without the president's express permission.

No commutation or pardon - just ignore him and let him sit on death row.

But Bush LIKES to kill black people.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:39 PM
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2. No doubt prez shit-for-brains took great joy in this "decidin" Is he going to attend the execution?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:52 PM
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3. What Took So Long?
20 years on death row? And nobody commuted to life in prison, not even Clinton?
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:54 PM
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4. Four murders and eight rapes...really, is he worthy of our time?
Here are some details of this piece of garbage...


—Raping and killing Army Pvt. Laura Lee Vickery-Clay of Fayetteville on Dec. 15, 1986. She was shot four times with a .22-caliber pistol that Gray confessed to stealing. She suffered blunt force trauma over much of her body.

—Raping and killing Kimberly Ann Ruggles, a civilian cab driver in Fayetteville. She was bound, gagged, stabbed repeatedly, and had bruises and lacerations on her face. Her body was found on the base.

—Raping, robbing and attempting to kill Army Pvt. Mary Ann Lang Nameth in her barracks at Fort Bragg on Jan. 3, 1987. She testified against Gray during the court-martial and identified him as her assailant. Gray raped her and stabbed her several times in the neck and side. Nameth suffered a laceration of the trachea and a collapsed or punctured lung.



Now, I understand those that oppose the death penalty and have no objections with their opposition to any execution. However, if there is an offender who is a poster child for the death penalty, it is this man.

No tears being wept here.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:59 PM
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6. Poster child for sure, but
do we have an Island that we could just drop him off to live with whatever other "animals " inhabit? Or, maybe we might try reopening those places for the criminally insane....
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:12 PM
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8. comparing this man to "animals" is an insult to "animals"...
but I'd not lose sleep if he were dropped into a den of wolves or a cave full of bears....
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 10:23 PM
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12. LOL !
ok......:hi:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:02 PM
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7. Agree
I'm not shedding tears for a murdering rapist. Ideally I'm opposed to the death penalty but this guy isn't as you called him a "poster child" in building a case against it.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:25 PM
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11. That's right. Gene pool's closed; Everybody out!!
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:58 AM
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15. But if you execute him, it will inevitably lead to executing others.
I am not certain that the state murdering this man is a disproportionate response to his crimes.

I am certain that even if it isn't, the state shouldn't murder him - life imprisonment isn't disproportionate either, and if it murders him it will inevitably murder other people it shouldn't.

The only way to avoid executing people who don't deserve it is not to execute anyone one.
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 08:55 PM
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5. Good
Maybe they can execute him the same way he executed his victims.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 09:16 PM
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9. Bush is the definition of a brutal crime.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 10:32 PM
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13. I'm with Bush here.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:06 AM
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14. When he applys the law to himself
then it will become a relevant question. Until then, it is irrelevant what he thinks because he is outside the law.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:00 AM
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16. This mad animal should have been put down years ago.
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