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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:37 PM
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******OFFICIAL OBAMA IN BERLIN DISCUSSION THREAD*****



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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:39 PM
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1. We are watching the future leader of the free world
And with him as the leader, the world will become freer.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:41 PM
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2. its too hard to post - this speech is amazing - I don't want to miss any!
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:41 PM
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3. History in the making!!
It's a beautiful, beautiful thing to watch!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:41 PM
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there are so many threads now.
Obama is repairing our open wounds, we have so much work to do with him.
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:41 PM
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4. Please keep us cube rats
updated!

Thank you!! :hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:42 PM
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8. it is a truly moving speech.
Obama is a UNITER.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:41 PM
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5. So, how many people are there at the speech?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:44 PM
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12. The german reporter said a hundred thousand, cheering and applauding.
Some with signs and one inflated white Obama baloon. They were chanting O-Ba-Ma!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:45 PM
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14. (easily.. All jammed up between the column & the Gate.)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:46 PM
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17. It's completely filled!
COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY FILLED!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:45 PM
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13. I can't say for sure
but I think definitely more than 100,000
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:41 PM
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6. Great speech.
The energy of the crowd is unbelievable!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:42 PM
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7. And Mccain; "Obama is responsible for high prices at the pumps" (sicko)
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:43 PM
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9. the walls that divide
us must come down

:applause:


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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:43 PM
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10. oh oh, I kind of disagree with him on Iran.
about Nuclear arms.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:44 PM
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11. touched on Global Warming.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:46 PM
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15. I'd like to hear more on warming, but, this is an inspiring speech about
trust and hope and partnership.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:11 PM
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49. The crowd *LOVED* him for the comments on Global Warming.
And he gave a distinct nod to Germany as being way
ahead of us in trying to make the right changes and
the crowd loved *THAT*, too!

Tesha
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:46 PM
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16. Talked about taking down wall between people of different religions.
Got a big hand. They keep interrupting him to sheer.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:43 PM
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60. you mean they even brought their sheep? !!! holy crap!!!!
:P
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:47 PM
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18. As someone who's been writing for & about politicians for many years now...

...I can tell you, this speech is absolutely *brilliant*.

Hitting all the right notes, in all the right ways.

I honestly haven't been this impressed by a well-conceived, well-written, well-delivered political speech since I was in grade school. And it was JFK that delivered that one.

Holy Kao!

This guy really *is* the Real Deal, y'all.

GOBAMA!!




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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:48 PM
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19. WOW....
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:48 PM
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Getting a little misty eyed.
Wow.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:59 PM
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37. me, too.....
actually more than misty....
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:48 PM
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20. Now he is really getting going
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:49 PM
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21. This man is amazing...
he seems to really get what is important. We should be taking care of each other, not hurting each other. Truly amazing speech...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:50 PM
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22. That was one of the most powerful things I've seen in many years.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:51 PM
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23. Very moving and inspiring..
he gives me hope for the future.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:51 PM
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24. People are trying to shake his hand
Obama has the world's respect
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:46 PM
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62. all the happy shiny faces reaching out to him.
and Obama never looks stressed out, just calm and smiley and shaking hands.

I'm a bit clausterphobic so that kind of closeness and noise would make me crazy, so I notice these things.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:52 PM
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25. I must admit that I can be very moved by speeches and I have heard Obama give moving speeches,
but for me this was not one of them. I glad that evidently everybody but me feels that way, but I thought that the speech was too long and he seemed to try and cover every topic possible. For me, I guess I had unreasonably high expectations for the speech. It's over now and I still just don't feel it was a great speech. I didn't come away from it with any kind of memorable line that will be repeated over and over.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:53 PM
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31. I strongly disagree. This was THE speech.
Unbelievably strong.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:03 PM
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39. That's your opinion, my differs. Such is life.
It was a good speech, but for me it did not seem impassioned and neither did it inspire my passion. He presented lots of facts about lots of subjects and I think the speech could have been half as long and twice as good.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:05 PM
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44. I am not a big fan of catchy phrases
His speech was very smart and meaningful. Thats what I seek in a speech.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 02:47 PM
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66. It was a good speech, but one that won't be quoted 20 years from now. n/t
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IndependentDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:56 PM
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35. IMO it's because he has set the bar so damn high with his other speeches...
for me he wont be able to top the speech on race relations.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:09 PM
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47. I agree. I thought it was OK, don't get me wrong, but...
I've heard the man give better.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 02:45 PM
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65. Well we are evidently a small minority as people fall all over themselves in praise of the speech.
It was a good speech, I was just not moved or inspired by it and I was very ready to be moved and inspired.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:25 PM
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56. How about this memorable line?

O BAM A




:toast:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 02:42 PM
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64. Somehow I don't think that will be quoted 20 years from now in relation to that speech. n/t
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:52 PM
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26. Beautiful Speech I found myself cheering with no one but the dogs and cat to hear me.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:52 PM
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27. This was the best speech I have ever witnessed. I was born in 1936.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:52 PM
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28. greatness
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:53 PM
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29. These pictures of him shaking hands at the barrier are really amazing.
The camera is right behind him giving you the view of all those people deperately trying to touch him. It's alot to handle.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:53 PM
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30. I have NEVER seen anything like this. Those people chanting "YES WE CAN" are not Americans.
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 12:53 PM by sparosnare
My eyes are teary and it's difficult to put into words how I feel. It's a great day to be an American. Obama is unlike any politician in history; he is truly a great man.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:14 PM
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54. It's a Planet thing now and we're
all in this together. We'll move forward while the fascist American media tries to hold us back.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:53 PM
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32. Look at that crowd react to him!
Junior must be stewing... That's not exactly the kind of reception the shrub gets when he travels.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:53 PM
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33. Excellent speech!
No talking heads can negate how Presidential that was. A+!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:12 PM
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51. the sTalking sHead are doing their best, tho.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:55 PM
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34. Great speech!
I was so nervous, I might as well have been giving the speech myself.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:57 PM
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36. WTF? How does Brian Williams get that huge photo op????
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:04 PM
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41. That's a huge score for him.
I noticed that too.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:10 PM
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48. Maybe that's what has irked Katie.
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junkiebrewster Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:01 PM
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38. normally, i shy away from the overt Obama-love threads

Even though I do support him 100%, have given money, love the guy, etc., the Obama love threads are kind of scary.

But I must comment.

Great speech. Loved it.

It's truely obvious at this point who the "progressive" candidate is. And I mean progressive in the sense of actually moving us forward, not in the sense of "a nice way of saying hippie."
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:04 PM
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40. What an amazing moment in history.
A great speech, an audience of millions around the world . . . just WOW!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:04 PM
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42. The picture of Obama wading into the crowd of well wishers was worth a thousand words.
When have we last seen an American politician get that kind of open reception overseas? Obama obviously meant to hit a lot of world issues in this speech, and did so, but his coda finish was the message, imo. I like the focus on the future - "People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our time...."

:kick:

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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:05 PM
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43. the rather large Cindy Crowley, just said "not much meat" as
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 01:06 PM by a kennedy
Senator Obama's speech concluded.....wish she'd just shut up. :puke: (edit grammar)
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:09 PM
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46. that amazed me too....
hardly ever watch MSM...
was so surprised at that comment...
and then they go on to discuss what I consider "the meat"...

how did we get so goofy?
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:37 PM
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59. Does she always reference food...
in her thinly veiled insults? I know that is mean, but fuck her. That speech, and the visuals brought me to tears, and made me proud of America, for the first time in several years!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:07 PM
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45. "Tens of thousands, some would say hundreds of thousands"
:eyes: Some would say?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:13 PM
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52. I've walked that plaza, during the last world cup
100,000 easy. probably more.

hell, what a speech.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:11 PM
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50. Sitting here, wowing away, when I started to cry. This is what a President looks like and
my son and my students and many of my colleagues have NEVER seen such a leader.

And I think I cried for lost time and lost hopes and new hopes and new dreams.

Tears dribbled down my cheeks.
I'm alone in the house eating a peach.
I'm stunned but I want to dance.
And run out in the rain and add my tears to the universe.

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:31 PM
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57. My friend cried, too.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:13 PM
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53. I can tell he's studied Lincoln's speeches.
"The world will little note nor long remember"

Something about the world will take note and remember this moment, Obama said.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:21 PM
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55. Obama spoke as a world citizen to the citizens of the world.
The hunger for this recognition: that we are all in this together and have to work and sacrifice together, was so palpable in the MORE than one-hundred-thousand crowd, it swept across the place in wave after wave of yearning for exactly what this moment in our collective history stands for, united, concerted action based on common sense.

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GermanDem Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:32 PM
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58. If the Germans could vote, Obama would win in a landslide,
polls show him getting anywhere between 60-80% of the vote! To me as a German living in America this is very significant, that there might be a President of the United States that is actually liked and admired in my homeland!
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scrappydo Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:44 PM
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61. Does anyone else ever notice......
when Senator Obama uses a teleprompter for a speech - you never really note that he is using one? He addresses all of his audience. McCain yesterday read word for word off his teleprompter. And the Republicans accuse Senator Obama of not being able to pull off a speech without a teleprompter.

Today's speech by Senator Obama was fantastic!! He reached the crowd, he reached people all over the world, he reached people all over our country, he reached me. I am SO PROUD that this man represents US!!!! :patriot:

Then there is McCain today in Ohio - struggling with his dentures and wiping his nose with his hand! YUK!! No comparison between the two. Inspirational Obama, deadbeat McCain.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:49 PM
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63. The speech, the crowds, the photos, the love - just breathtaking!!!!. nt
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