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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:32 PM
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Vets for Freedom claim "25,000 Members" But Only 5 Donors? Is This The New Math?
Earlier this week, we wrote about the Republican group, Vets For Freedom, and their ability to run $1.5 million dollars in TV advertising with seemingly no support.

In our blog post, we noted that the founder of the group was claiming thousands of donors. And the group claims to have 25,000 members. A number which if true might give a hint of credibility to their claims. However, when it is becoming increasingly clear that more and more real veterans are coming out in support of Barack Obama, is it possible that VFF actually has 25,000 members?

Well, we're not from Missouri but frankly, we'd have to see the membership roster to even believe that they have 2,500 members, why?

First, in their last report, they have exactly 5 donors listed. One, two, three, four, five. So unless their marketing efforts are truly horrific, to the tune of a .00000005 response rate, we have to believe that their member list is slightly inflated.

Second, if you look at their web site traffic on public sites, you'll see that the traffic is very very light; with some recent days in May hovering around zero, wouldn't a 25,000 member person organization have more than a couple of thousand total visits a month?

Unfortunately, many news organizations are taking the 25,000 numbers as a fact versus a 'claim' -- if we claimed that a million people read everything we wrote, it wouldn't make it true -- but who knows maybe people would start writing that -- just like we are seeing these.
http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2008/07/25000_m...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:37 PM
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1. Nice catch. We know some money men who don't want to see
a Dem in office are funding this. Seems more than obvious now. But to hide behind the vets' reputation seems particularly cowardly to me.
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