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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:03 PM
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McCain, whose divorce made his first wife a single-mother, is against gay adoption BECAUSE...
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"I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don’t believe in gay adoption."-- Serial Adulterer John McCain







McCain’s Conservative Model? Roosevelt (Theodore, That Is)

HUDSON, Wis. — Senator John McCain in a wide-ranging interview called for a government that is frugal but more active than many conservatives might prefer. He said government should play an important role in areas like addressing climate change, regulating campaign finance and taking care of “those in America who cannot take care of themselves.”

I count myself as a conservative Republican, yet I view it to a large degree in the Theodore Roosevelt mold,” Mr. McCain said, referring to Roosevelt’s reputation for reform, environmentalism and tough foreign policy.

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Mr. McCain, who with his wife, Cindy, has an adopted daughter, said flatly that he opposed allowing gay couples to adopt. “I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don’t believe in gay adoption,” he said.

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But he declined to take a specific position when asked whether only evolution should be taught in public schools. “It’s up to the school boards,” he said. “That’s why we have local control over education.” Mr. McCain has said he believes in evolution.

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/us/politics/13mccain.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login



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McCain plays gay card, will Obama ante up?
by Ethan Jacobs
associate editor
Wednesday Jul 9, 2008

UPDATED noon, 7/10/08

Late last month a group of about 100 movers and shakers on the religious right met in Denver and agreed to support Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign. To those who followed the 2004 presidential race news of McCain’s recent efforts to woo the culture warriors of the religious right provoked an awful sense of déjà vu.

One of those power players, Phil Burress of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values, told the Washington Times that he had met with McCain and that the Arizona senator had promised "to make judicial appointments that will resemble that of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Antonin Scalia, to ’get serious’ on abortion and same-sex marriage, and to push values issues in general."

Last Sunday Fred Barnes, editor of the Weekly Standard, appeared as a talking head on Fox News and publicly urged the McCain campaign to talk up his opposition to same-sex marriage and gays in the military to fire up social conservatives. Those events, coupled with McCain’s recent announcement of his support for the California ballot initiative to ban same-sex marriage, raised the specter of the 2004 race, in which the Bush campaign and the Republican Party used the issue of same-sex marriage to try to drive up turnout among conservative Christians.

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Patrick Sammon, president of Log Cabin Republicans, said he expects both McCain and Sen. Barack Obama to spend much of their efforts appealing to the center to court the independent voters, and he thinks the far right of the Republican Party will play a more marginal role. Log Cabin has not yet announced whether it will endorse the McCain campaign.

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He also believes McCain’s own position on marriage equality makes it much harder for him to attack Obama. In 2004 Bush supported the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA), which was defeated in Congress that year, and talked up his opposition to same-sex marriage. McCain, by contrast, was an ardent opponent of the FMA in 2004 on the grounds of federalism, speaking against it on the floor of the Senate. He supports ballot initiatives in states to ban same-sex marriage and even recorded a TV spot in favor of a failed initiative in Arizona in 2006, and he has said he might change his position on the FMA if the efforts to ban same-sex marriage at the state level fail. Yet many on the religious right have publicly doubted his conviction on the issue, and Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, one of the most powerful figures within the movement, has refused to endorse him. Sammon said McCain’s record on marriage would blunt any efforts to use the issue against Obama, who opposes same-sex marriage, supports civil unions, and opposes state ballot initiatives to ban same-sex marriage. To make matters more confusing Obama publicly congratulated couples marrying in California in his statement announcing his opposition to the marriage amendment in that state, effectively praising them for entering into marriages he does not support.

More:
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=news&sc3=&id=77223

Update: On July 10 the Family Research Council stepped up the pressure on McCain to emphasize his stance on the marriage amendments, releasing a poll showing that support for the amendments enhances a candidate’s status among most voters.]
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=blog&sc2=news&sc3=&id=77275


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Meet John McCain's 1st wife, Carol Shepp (pic)
Topic started by npincus on Jun-03-08 04:20 PM (18 replies)
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John McCain with his wife Carol Shepp before Viet Nam
http://americanpicturelinks.com/RunningMcCain2008.htm



John McCain and his mother Roberta McCain (Chronic traffic scoff-law and serial speeder) at the Meet the Press Studio, 2007
http://americanpicturelinks.com/RunningMcCain2008.htm



Carol Shepp McCain photos
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3379654




John McCain's daughter Bridget attempts to suck the brains out of his adopted child. Republicans frequently cannibalize their siblings.



Reagans weren't happy with McCain's divorce
End of marriage for GOP hopeful stunned friends, former first family
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5884262.html





http://blogs.citypages.com/gop/2008/02/mccain_mistress.php

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:07 PM
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1. And the really mind-bending part
is that many of the kids that gay couples adopt are hard-to-place kids.

For example, my friends adopted two Black toddlers who were born addicted to crack.

What life would these girls have led in the system?

But instead, thanks to gay adoption, they got two loving parents and a nice home.

But you won't hear the republicans making this point.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:14 PM
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3. And moreover... Cindy herself adopted a child from Bangladesh
Would Bridget's life have been better in a Bangladeshi orphanage than as the child of two loving parents here in the states, regardless of gender?

The hypocrisy of the right disgusts me.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:08 PM
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2. There are still two (both) parents in a gay adoption or marriage n/t
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:46 PM
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4. idiot
We've had gay adoption for years here (England), subject to the usual checks, of course. The kids are generally fine, well-adjusted and often do better in school.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:53 PM
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5. What he said makes no sense
If a gay couple wants to adopt, then that is two parents for the child. John McCain is such a loser, everything out of his mouth is incorrect.
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:04 PM
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6. SInce McBush spends more than 90% of his time away from his
family in Arizona--I'm not sure that he has provided a two parent household. Also when the other
"ladies" start surfacing during this election, ole Riverboat John is going to have lots of explaining to do....
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 03:28 PM
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7. What a stupid idiot. "I don't believe in gay adoption." Believe in it?? You don't have to believe
in it you stupid fucking idiot. I don't believe in assholes leaving their wives because they aren't pretty enough anymore, and finding some rich second wife to give them the security they need to stop believing in things like Social Security and adoption by loving parents. What an asshole. As if Bush wasn't bad enough, now we have the possibility of this idiot running things.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:14 PM
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8. kick
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:17 PM
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9. K and R
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 04:18 PM by bigwillq
I K-ed before I R-ed and I guess you can't R anymore. :(
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