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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:51 PM
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It seems as if Warner, Webb, & Strickland turned down VP talk rather forcefully
MSNBC broke story earlier (and it's probably been talked about here already) but Jim Webb has said he doesn't want the VP slot...Warner, Webb, & Strickland seemed to be strongly AGAINST the VP job...Now, if it's something they truly don't want, fine, but I would think most politicans would be honored to be considered for the VP...Why do the aforementioned (especially Strickland) almost take offense to being talked about as Obama's running mate?....It just doesn't seem like there is enthusiasm for VP on the Democrat side...

Look at the Rethugs..Flip Romney or crazy Mike Huckabee would JUMP at the chance to be McBush's VP..If either of these 2 are offered VP, no way will they turn it down....

I think the VP is going to be either Clinton, Edwards, or Richardson - that is if they want it...

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:52 PM
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1. Who are we down to, Clark, Edwards, Richardson, Kaine?
Any others being seriously discussed?
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NattPang Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:55 PM
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5. Kerry, Biden, Dodd, Sebelius, Graham,
Gore, Clinton.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:57 PM
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9. From your list, I see only Sebelius.
No sitting Senators. I don't think Gore or Clinton want it and I don't think Obama wants them.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:04 PM
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17. my take on these: only my thoughts:
Kerry: too easy to target from last time, no matter if unfair or not

Biden: old and can't swing a region we need. Delaware is already dem, right? what can he bring to the table in terms of states?

Dodd: same concerns.

Sebelius: I don't like that she's bilderburg.

Graham: ? Don't know enough about this person.

Gore: He's too happy to sit in poo.

Clinton: too much water under the bridge.

This is what comes to me as I see them. I love some of them and like them all even if I do have problems with some of their records. I don't see these making it. On Sebelius, I hope not.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:56 PM
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7. Personally? I only see Kaine, Schweitzer, and Sebelius as possibilities
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 03:58 PM by Seen the light
With the Hillary wild card of course.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:58 PM
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10. No Nunn.
The other Governors would be fine choices.

Which of them have the best economic record for their respective states?
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:00 PM
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12. I don't know why I put Nunn there
Seriously...no clue how that got there haha.

I also must admit that I don't know the specific current economic conditions in Virginia, Montana, and Kansas either.
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NattPang Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:54 PM
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2. This is what you think?
That many Democratic elected officials
are being asked by Obama to be his VP,
and that they are forcefully turning it down?

Just so that I don't misunderstand,
It is this your view?
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:02 PM
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15. Yes, that's what I'm saying...It's no big thing
(or as they use to say on Hawaii Five-O "Ain't no big thing bruddah") to turn the VP position down, but the above 3 REALLY seemed to be against it, especially Strickland.....Perhaps I should go find a link, but Strickland was so strongly against it, I just found that rather odd...He was a HRC supporter, perhaps he can't accept that she's not the nominee...

And what is your view?....
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:54 PM
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3. I like what Biden said: that he's not really in the market for the VP slot, but if was asked by his
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 03:55 PM by BklynChick
party to do it, if his party thought he was the best person to win the GE in the VP slot, he, of course, would say yes. I think the media is playing this stuff up in their general antagonistic tone towards Obama. Look for the next story: no one wants to be Obama's VP, boohoo!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:55 PM
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4. Strickland was JUST elected. Warner is going to be the next VA Senator
and Webb said no.


Who's next?
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:56 PM
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6. heh, I'm sure there are plenty of Dems itching to be Obama's running mate
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dsomuah Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:56 PM
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8. I woulda been suprised if warner accepted
Warner is looking at a walkover in his senate election next fall. In his shoes I wouldn't give that up to be vp.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 03:59 PM
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11. Consider what Rommey and Huckabee are doing today
Webb is a US Senator and Mark Warner is running for US Senate (and hopefully will win). Strickland was just elected governor of Ohio.

Romney and Huckabee are sitting on their asses doing nothing - so of course they would take VP.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:00 PM
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13. Nah Hucklebee is going to be an AMAZENG and SERIES Jurnalyst at Fox News.
Like TOTALLY.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:44 PM
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23. Mark Warner's Senate win is as sure a thing as Obama's was in 2004 after Alan Keyes was
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 04:45 PM by Zynx
the GOOP nominee. I'd have to think twice about turning down a sure fire Senate seat.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:01 PM
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14. I think it's meant to play up to the locals.
They don't want their voters to think they're distracted.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:03 PM
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16. That and they have likely already gotten a call saying it won't be them.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:09 PM
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18. Right
:thumbsup:
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:10 PM
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19. ... and I bet they're saying OBAMA IS IN TROUBLE OMFG!!!
Riiight?
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:34 PM
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20. Those were my 3 choices
They make by far the most sense from a strategic standpoint, flipping a vital state. A VP isn't worth squat in broad scope but he can deliver his home state via a 3-3.5 point favorite son bump.

It's high hilarity when names like Richardson are mentioned and there's talk of him helping in Nevada or other states with high number of Hispanics. Likewise Bob Graham, in some thread today a discussion of him boosting Virginia or other southern states. A VP has extremely limited pull and it's isolated to his home state.

Hillary might be an exception, retrieving some of her supporters since it's so recent and polarizing, but she also obviously repels certain groups.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:42 PM
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21. I think Obama already chose his running mate. Remember, he chose his VP's chief of staff.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:44 PM
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22. Webb was notified he was on shortlist -- I just heard that he did in fact refuse. Interesting.
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 05:30 PM by Sensitivity
Apologies to OP for doubting.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 04:58 PM
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24. I think Stickland's tone really turned the Dems off
so the word went out to be more circumspect in one's statements.
Which Biden, Edwards, et al., have been.

I agree that Sen. Webb and maybe others have been told they're no longer in the running.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:03 PM
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25. Brian Scweitzer Gov. of Montana is in the top 3 right now.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 05:09 PM
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26. With Sebelius and Kaine?
I've had a suspicion for quite some time it will be Sebelius.
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