How CAN we get the story out on Cindy McCain's adulterous affair with John McCain, esp. to women?

[CTyankee]

Nobody seems to know what I am talking about when I mention it. They also don't know about her stealing drugs from her own nonprofit organization and then framing an employee to take the fall.

But how can we get the message out bigtime? Women, especially, need to hear about their "family values" Republican, John McCain, is anything but.

[AZBlue]

1. Contact media outlets and ask them why they aren't covering the truth about her.

[wurzel]

2. Only if she becomes a Democrat .

[faithfulcitizen]

38. sadly, true. sames goes for swiftboating.

[napi21]

3. You could write a book review of "The Real McCain" on Amazon

to bgin with. We could all get a popular conversation going on some of the blogs that the media monitors. There's also a reporter, Jose Vargas, at the Washington Post who has been assigned to write reports on how the 2008 campaign is being influenced by the internet. Apparently that's his assignment until Nov. and he writes a weekly (I think it's weekly & not daily) column in the WP.

[CTyankee]

5. Thanks. I will email Vargas and maybe directly ask him why this is not being covered.

I very rarely see that much of the liberal internet sites such as DU given much coverage in the Times or anywhere else for that matter. Certainly not on Good Morning America.

I'm also going to email Matt Bai. He wrote a book recently about the Democratic party and how we didn't have a message that resonated withthe American people. I responded to him and recently found my email and his response on his website.

[napi21]

6. Jose Vargas was a guest on cspan WJ this past week. He sounded like

a really straight forward reporter who is trying to do the best job he can.

[CTyankee]

7. Good to know. Maybe he has some insights on this situation.

If McCain's affair has been well documented I consider it fair game. Reporters aren't doing their jobs.

[Cha]

18. Yeah, 'cause Obama's got that

message now.

[Liberal Veteran]

4. In reality, both of them are STILL committing adultery.

Jesus says that anyone who divorces his wife and remarries is committing adultery.

[LordJFT]

8. What about McCain's adulterous affair? that seems more relevant

[CTyankee]

11. Yes, you are right. I meant to include both of them.

The only reason I mention Cindy is that people don't seem to know anything about her, least of all the adulterous relationship they had together while he was still married and living withhis first wife. The fact that the first wife had been disabled and had gained weight is also never revealed.

This guy is a walking, talking jerk and deserves a political graveyard. Ihope he is forever consigned to insignificance...

[Bluerthanblue]

17. how about adopting a special needs infant when she was using

10-15 vicodan and percoset a day?? on a whim, without even discussing it with her husband? How many people do you know who would be allowed to do that? Bridget's adoption didn't go through until she was 3? And McCain says that the adoption process was "very intrusive" and also says it wasn't a "foreign adoption",?? There are some strange 'facts' surrounding this family-

:shrug:
peace~

[eridani]

36. Leave the kid out of it

We were talking about the parents' adultery.

[Bluerthanblue]

51. and I'm talking about Cindy's drug addiction and that

she adopted a special needs infant - WHILE she was an active addict-

I'm not dissing the child- she's an innocent bystander in the discussion-
If you don't want to discuss what I've written fine, but please don't try and dictate what I can and cannot discuss-

:shrug:
peace~

[Mabus]

42. Not just one but two

She tried to bring two into the country. The second one was adopted by a McCain staffer. Both the kids had cleft palates and the rumors back in 2000 were about how Cindy used the kid as an excuse for her thieving (the kid needed the meds) to satisfy her own addiction. It would certainly help explain why Cindy didn't do time after some closed door talks with the DEA during the investigation that shut down AVMT.

[Bluerthanblue]

50. I believe the other baby had

a heart condition, and a close friend of McCain adopted her-

The friend talks about how they've never had to pay a cent for the operations the baby had to have.

peace~

[Infomaniac]

40. Cindy's an addict.

I also wonder what kind of husband doesn't notice for years that his wife is abusing drugs.

I've heard two things about when the affair started. The first has McCain still living with his first wife when the affair started and the other says McCain was separated from his wife when the affair began. In either case, he was a fairly high ranking military officer and his conduct was a punishable offense according to Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

I have read - I forget where - it wasn't here - that he ditched his first wife because she got fat and was disabled. I never hear anything about her criminal drug use.

[JohnnyCougar]

34. Affair?

He had more than one affair. He slept with the whole world after he came back from the war. "Affairs" is the right word. The man is simply a common opportunist.

[Faygo Kid]

9. Only on the Internet. Give up on the media. They fear Hannity might criticize them.

There is no way the media will mention these stories. No way. Just do what we can, and trust the American people won't be brainwashed yet again.

[TeamJordan23]

10. Have Wes Clark say it next time he is on TV. nm

[1Hippiechick]

14. Here is a YouTube 101 on putting that on the air......LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euu_DMhsXQo

[PBS Poll-435]

12. Even the loosest definition of "adultery"

Would not include Cindy McCain.

John McCain, however?

Yep

[Bluerthanblue]

16. she was his Mistress- she knew he was married, - he was still living with Carol-

They both own this-

peace~

[Lorien]

21. So you demonize the woman more than the man who took the vows?

He was after her for her looks and her money. It seems to me that if there's any "bad guys" here, it's McCain himself.

On edit; meant to reply to the OP.

[Bluerthanblue]

24. no, I wouldn't "demonize" either one- but she

was no innocent victim- She owns her share of the affair- and her share of the guilt. Thats all I'm saying.

McCain likes to play "mr. moral" and Cindy does the same- when you do that, you need to be prepared to have your life laid bare, and to face up to the unpleasant, uncomfortable truth-

peace~

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. She was also indirectly involved in the Savings & Loan disaster and the Keating 5...

not only that, her beer company lobbied against Mothers Against Drunk Driving. These truths need to get to the public, especially since the media has been relentless in attacking Michelle. The M$M treated Hillary, Tipper and Teresa that same. They never go after the Repuke wives. Laura Bush killed her boyfriend and has a sordid past. If Michelle is not off limits then neither should Cindy be.

[Lorien]

46. I agree about going after her on the savings and loan disaster

and the Keating 5 affair, but I generally don't like the idea of the public putting it's nose in anyone's private life. I didn't think that Clinton's affair was anyone's business except for those involved. In general, I think that the women always get kicked around far more than the men who commit adultery. The "other woman" is blamed for temping him, the wife is blamed for not doing enough to keep her husband faithful...women always get the bulk of the blame, while "boys will be boys". When my ex-fiance cheated I blamed HIM and him alone. The other woman never made me a promise-he did. So I dropped his sorry ass for breaking it.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

49. I totally agree, but I'm pointing out the double standard. The Democratic

wives were constantly slimed and trashed in the media. All I'm saying is that equal justice is due. I am willing to bet my school loans that had it been Michelle doing the cheating, rest assured that the media would never let up.

[blondeatlast]

27. Local conventional wisdom says she pursued him through her father and possibly Charles Keating.

Sge knew he was married, there's no doubt about that.

[CTyankee]

30. Oh, he's as culpable as he is, no doubt. I only meant that she is not getting the scrutiny

that she deserves. If they are doing a number on Michelle Obama, the same should go for Cindy McCain and I'm not seeing it.

[1Hippiechick]

13. Go to his YouTube website channel 'johnmccaindotcom' and look at the right sidebar under spreading

the word - he categorizes messageboards/blogs under liberal, conservative, moderate, and other, and lists names of boards to target. While there are a few in 3 categories, there are over 70 in the conservative category. Maybe hit several conservative messageboards?

[RedShoes]

15. "stealing drugs from her own non-profit organization" is too wordy.

This is why you're not having success. You wanna say, "she stole drugs intended for needy children". Over and over again.

I have no idea what you're talking about when you say adulterous affair. seriously.

[rasputin1952]

19. Why even worry about it...?

It's pretty well commom knowlege, just as is the drug abuse, the never having to work a day in her life, the jet being used for McCain's jaunts.


It'll all catch up to her and him. They have nothing, they know it, and most people are too dumb to really care...:hi:

[beachmom]

20. Really? Right wingers know. Don't forget the 2000 primary.

I know of at least one Rush listener who knows the way McCain left his first wife, who had been in a horrible car accident.

[Lisa0825]

22. LTTE, call in shows, google bombs, blog posts, etc

Star writing letters to the editor of papers in major markets questioning the McCain family morality, and reference those issues. Call in to shows like Washington Journal and talk about it. Write into shows, even fluff shows like The View. Like it or not, that have a lot of female viewers. Post it everywhere you can think of, put it in your sig line, and google bomb it. Buy a domain or 3 and post articles about it. Get others to link to those sites.

Make a video on YouTube or start a chain mail on it.

Or here's an idea with a local flair... when I was spreading the word for Dean, I made copies of his fliers, and then went to Barnes and Noble and stuck them in books (both liberal and conservative!). How about making a flier with the list of McCain family moral problems and spreading them around like that?

LOL

This is a fun to think about. If you do any of these things, be sure to post about it so we can help spread it.

[scheming daemons]

23. I think a more damaging story is her theft of drugs when she was addicted...

...

[highplainsdem]

25. Make both McCains wear a scarlet letter "A" -- that should get us the 17th century Puritan vote.

Of course no Democratic president has ever committed adultery, so we don't have to worry about looking hypocritical. :sarcasm:

Sigh.

I can't believe this silliness.

As for bringing up her drug use -- I thought we didn't want to get into the subject of Obama's drug use. Or do you really think you can bring up one without the other being dredged up?

But most importantly, we're running against John McCain, not his wife.

And Obama has made it clear that he believes attacks on spouses are "low class" and "detestable."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story?id=4881883

So let's not go there. Especially if we can't throw stones without the media and our opponents pointing out Democratic glass houses.

[arewenotdemo]

26. Excellent points.

[eridani]

37. Obama shouldn't go there

That doesn't apply to the rest of us, none of whom have the name recognition of Wes Clark.

[LostinVA]

29. This how: we don't

Ugh.


I don't give a damn about it, and I don't liek pulling in family members and personal life stuff unless it's needed, and I don't think either of these things are needed to be focused on, because McCain has never stated he wants divorced people to be imprisoned or anything. There's plenty of ISSUES to attack McCain on: Iraq, gas prices, economy in general, etc. THESE are the ISSUES Americans care about this election cycle, not Cindy McCain. This isn't a "Gun, Gays, God" election -- focusing on these personal sidebar "issues" will do nothing but muddle the waters.

[alydar]

31. If Rev.Wright is a legitimate issue reflecting on Obama's

"judgment," as many claim, then McCain's cheating on his first wife is a legitimate issue reflecting on McCain's trustworthiness and integrity.

[LostinVA]

43. This isn't about the Reverend Wright -- start that thread if you wish and I'll answer

The OP asked about Cindy McCain.

I don't give a damn about this issue, and didn't when it was Bill Clinton.

[quantass]

32. Dont expect the MSM to pick it up ... the McCain's can do murder and get a free pass -- No BS!

[IndyOp]

33. It'll have no effect because she married him and they've been married now a long time.

Just my opinion...

The fact that he married her because she is a super-wealthy heir who could support his elite political career aspirations -- not a straight talking regular guy -- that is a story. Combine that with the fact that he cheated with Cindy on his earlier supermodel wife (Carol) after he had an accident that made her not so attractive -- that is a story.

[goclark]

35. I still can get the "C" word out of my mind

For a man to refer to any woman in that way is shameful.

When I heard that he call his wife one was beyond the pale.

What ever happened to that Lobby Lady that made the news for 5 minutes?

Yes, he is shameful.

Another woman that they are hiding this election is his lovely daughter.

She is a woman too.

[Celebration]

39. THAT is the basis of an attack

not adultery, not stuff his wife does. The "C" word .........screamed............in front of people.

[NancyG]

41. Anderson Cooper touched on it last night.

His special on the candidates' lives mentioned that Cindy fell in love with him while he was separated, and that they were married a month after his divorce. It was mentioned, but did not make a point of it.

It did mention her drug addiction and stealing drugs from her nonprofit.

The special also mentioned John's problems at the military academy and how he almost flunked out, but did not mention he was 4th from the bottom of his class.

It also did not mention all the other times that John crashed his plane.

[CTyankee]

47. He wasn't separated from his wife when he started his affair with Cindy.

If he was separated, that would be different. Cooper is lying.

[Carrieyazel]

44. Nancy Reagan's affair with Ronnie was a known fact. Nobody cared even then.

Getting out the message won't work. No one cares.

[JaneQPublic]

52. Love these GOP family values crusaders!

With Ronnie, Rudy, & McSame and their respective spouses, they're doing their best to make "homewrecker" and "mistress" standard prereqs to being First Lady.

[JustAnotherGen]

45. To the O.P.

I get where you are going with this . . . Wish I still had the copy of NY Post from Thursday - or was it Friday?

They keep repeating "Michelle Obama - never been proud of her country." Every chance they get. Then above that? A piece that no one really knows anything about Cindy McCain.

I think that's your point - right? Where the f*ck are the constant references to the two adulterers? Where are the references to the addiction. Yeah yeah yeah and whatvevah! :grr: I know I know - "It's good to overcome an addiction - blah blah blah - etc. etc."

But how about - Michelle Obama wasn't 'Weak' and never got addicted to anything in the first place?
How about - Michelle Obama didn't deliberately get involved with a married man?

The way the Conservative Media 'play' it is that there is nothing to print.

Oh yes there is. They are deliberately NOT putting it out there that she's the type of person that she is. Deliberately. The average Joe Blow out on Staten Island that ONLY reads the Post is getting sold a bill of goods on Cindy McCain.

So how to bring it to light? For starters, call out the NY post. I've written three missives over the past few weeks but alas -

They printed an article from Bill O'Lielly but not my comments on their election coverage . . .

[CTyankee]

48. Well, I for one will mention it to everybody I know. Some Dems don't even know the story on her.

As for Republicans, esp. the women, I'll just say "Do you want an adulterer as your president?" And certainly, anybody who was screaming about how Clinton was an adulterer, well, let's let them defend McCain! They can't.

[kaybea]

53. Always refer to her as "McCain's second wife, Cindy, . . ."

Curious people will ask who's the first one? Take the time to fill them in. Then drop a sly comparison to Saint Reagan and his divorced status. Coarse, but worth bonus points, is to repeat Sinatra's anecdote about Nancy's prodigious fellating skills. Remind people that these paragons represent the "fambly values" party.

[JustAnotherGen]

55. Suh-weeet

Idea! :pals:

[BlooInBloo]

54. The media has declared Crazy Old Man to be beyond criticism....

http://www.americablog.com/2008/07/ap-strikes-obama-again-of-course.html