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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:26 PM
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Government run healthcare
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 01:28 PM by underpants
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:28 PM
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1. Are they health care plans in Canada and France?
Because I never hear them discussed in this country on the MSM.
Can I try Tri-care?

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:30 PM
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2. Tri Care? why suuuuuure you can young man
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 01:31 PM by underpants
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:42 PM
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5. But you have to retire from the military to be eligible.
You don't get it for just doing one enlistment.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:54 PM
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8. I want YOU to think about the long term young man
your goals in life and how to achieve them

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:39 PM
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3. Government run healthcare saves money - Ins Co universal costs extra - Mass results below
the Massachusetts Connector is designed on The Heritage Foundation’s version of a voluntary “health insurance exchange".

http://www.mahealthconnector.org/portal/site/connector/


So far, more than 342,000 people are newly covered since the initiative began, probably about half of the state's uninsured - Of the total, 176,000 are getting government-subsidized insurance - far more than expected by the second year, which is driving up the cost. Another 55,000 are newly enrolled in Medicaid. Over the next three years, the Patrick administration has projected, Commonwealth Care will double in size and cost.


http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/26/healthcare_cost_increases_dominate_mass_budget_debate/

The Massachusetts plan might not have achieved universal coverage, but it has cost taxpayers a great deal of money. It was originally projected to cost $1.8 billion in 2008, but it is now expected to exceed those estimates by $150 million to $400 million. Over the next decade, projections suggest that RomneyCare will cost $2-$4 billion more than was budgeted.

http://www.nerepublican.com/index.php/2008/01/31/ma-health-connector-quickly-exceeding-original-budget/
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:54 PM
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7. Exactly 3% admin/overhead as opposed to 15% for the private firms
"codeology" and all that

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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:41 PM
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4. McCain shouldn't dis gov't health care - he's had it his WHOLE LIFE.
Born of military family - Free HC
Joined military - free HC
member of Congress - free HC

Probably never paid a premium. Shouldn't he go to Canada or France for this?

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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:43 PM
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6. Are you posting this for informational purposes?
All of these systems have significant disadvantages. Medicare has been privatized to a large extend, as has Medicaid in many states.

Despite the abominable care being provided for recently returned Vets, the VA has probably established the best program in the country. They have not privatized and have made the difficult transition to electronic medical records.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:55 PM
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9. commie!!!!
:patriot:


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