The election is over.

[rug]

In five months, less a week, we'll have a Democratic President. Congratulations all. The next five months is just letting it unspool.

[Mooney]

1. Please to explain?

I actually agree with you, but I'm interested to hear your reasons.

[Liberal Veteran]

2. He cut open a Limbaugh listener and divined it from the way the entrails fell out.

Sheep guts never lie.

[Shakespeare]

3. LOL

Great answer. :rofl:

[rug]

5. It's really much simpler than that.

[TahitiNut]

10. (LOL)

:rofl: I LOVE a well-timed metaphor!

[patrice]

15. I BELIEVE you!! That IS the way it's done!!!

:rofl:

[auburngrad82]

75. Impossible. Limbaugh listeners have no guts. nt

[rug]

4. McCain. There is no comparison. McCain.

When Germany invaded the Soviet Union and declared war on the United States six months later, the war was over. The combined steel output of those two countries alone swamped Germany's.

Look at McCain.

Weak fundraising.

Tied at the waist to Bush.

A splintered GOP.

An abhorrent war.

Foreclosures.

Economy tanking.

Gas.

And then there's McCain.

No matter how much racism, anti-latteism, and general stupidity, he simply can't win.

The election is over. The rest is sturm and drang. I may have to feign an interest in baseball to carry me through to November.

[redstate_democrat]

6. I may have to feign an interest in baseball to carry me through to November.

:rofl:

Hey, there's always the Olympics!

[rug]

13. I'm going to buy Rangers tickets in October.

At least I'll see a real fight there.

[Liberal Veteran]

8. How....prosaic.

I was hoping for a mystic revelation at least.

Perhaps just tell us it "came to you in a moment of clarity on the road to Damascus"?

(Just kidding....I'm in a weird mood)

[rug]

12. This will be a prosaic summer and fall.

[blondeatlast]

11. Never had a real opponent until now, either. He's represented me in DC

my entire voting life.

The most he's had to do is fundraise--for OTHERS.

He was playing defense before we even had a candidate--now he's exposing his weaknesses (doesn't like the Bush comparison, etc).

I'm SO waiting for the Epic Fail.

[Emit]

19. Remember that, rug

When on election day in November, the electronic voting machines count the votes and we're left scratching our heads. The only way McCain can win is for them to steal it. One of the only ways we have to prevent that is to flood the polls (new voter registration is key now), volunteer on election day for GOTV, and volunteer at the polling places through our local registrars' offices to be a part of the process.

[rug]

21. Frankly, I think all we have to do is scratch our balls occasionally to win.

(Or the nonsexist equivalent.)

[cbayer]

32. I can't scratch my ovaries.

They're, um, deep.

[nxylas]

69. You could scratch somebody else's balls

Just make sure you get their consent first, cos the cops don't like it if you don't. Um, I've heard.

[Emit]

36. Well, you can sit and scratch your balls, lol

While I get out and do some voter registration and door knocks. :hi:

[Mooney]

28. Agreed.

I posted something yesterday in the lamentably deceased GD Primaries to this effect.

I certainly have no love for McCain, but I am constantly struck by the degree to which his own party hates him. They often use terms like "betrayal" when they talk about him, and they get all worked up about his stand (whatever it might be) on "amnesty."

But the real dealbreaker for these dumbshits seems to be that John McCain acknowledges the fact that global warming exists. He gave a speech to this effect a few weeks ago in Oregon, if memory serves, and all the usual RW assholes like Hannity and Limbaugh went completely apeshit that he could do such a horrible thing. They showed footage of Limbaugh talking about this, and he became so despondent that he stopped talking (a miracle in and of itself) and hung his head in his hands.

So these observations support my premise: The GOP hate their own candidate more than we hate their candidate. And we hate their candidate. I don't think I've ever observed this phenomenon before.

Obviously I offer the usual caveats, that we should take nothing for granted and we need an excellent GOTV operation, etc., etc., etc... but I repeat: The Republicans cannot even get it up for their own fucking candidate that won the delegates necessary to earn their nomination three fucking months ago.

So, in closing, I am optimistic about our chances for this November.

[rug]

30. Good post.

:thumbsup:

[Mooney]

31. Thank you.

Remember, even the people who fix elections for the GOP can't stand McCain.

[Divine Discontent]

39. Your points are all SUPER valid!

and yet, GOPers ignore facts, you know better, and racism will also bring them out, as will anti-Muslim feelings (to a smaller degree) AND, never "misunderestimate" (as Dumya would say) the ability of the GOP to rig elections in dozens of counties (or states they run) where they can manipulate the vote, and voter roles.

One doesn't have to think too far back to realize B*sh got stomped in the debates, had an unpopular war, lots of issues that were against him and he still 'won', thanks to Ohio's miraculous turnaround for the sitting pResident.

We are going to win, but I have no false illusions about an obvious win. I hope I'm wrong and it's a landslide 55-45 victory... but I'm thinking a 51-49 win for us and a 20-30 electoral majority.


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[Jeff In Milwaukee]

68. You forgot McCain -- he's a real drag on the ticket...

:hi:

[gorfle]

72. Spot-on, Rug.

This election is in the bag.

About the only thing that could change things would be some massively-unifying event, like a major terrorist attack.

And if the terrorists are smart, they know this and will lay off of the attacks so that the sooner we leave the better - the last thing they want is to inspire Americans to revenge.

[dflprincess]

7. We said that four years ago as well

and 4 years before that.

We'll only have a Democratic president if the votes actually get counted this time.

[rug]

16. McCain's not an incumbent and he's so much weaker.

It's such a mismatch it's fraud-proof.

[Eric J in MN]

64. Four years ago, some of us were optimistic, some of us were pessimistic,

...and some us felt it was too close to predict.

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[TahitiNut]

14. Think "coattails" .... long, long coattails.

There is NEVER a time to become complacent. Never.

[rug]

22. Oh, I'm not complacent. But coattails is an entirely different matter.

[blondeatlast]

26. So true, so true. nt

[Colobo]

17. Exactly.

[AlCzervik]

18. Ok but i think Obama needs to run like he's 10 points behind.

[rug]

24. He will. And he'll win.

[Colobo]

25. Exactly.

[ghostsofgiants]

20. Complacency over the next few months is the LAST thing you guys need.

[Erin Elizabeth]

45. you guys?

[ghostsofgiants]

48. I'm Canadian.

[Erin Elizabeth]

55. Cool!

[ghostsofgiants]

57. Yeah, didn't mean to give the impression I was a Republican or anything, haha.

[Erin Elizabeth]

58. I didn't think so, I was just confused.

I'd love to visit your fine country someday! :hi:

[ghostsofgiants]

59. You should!

It's good times up here. :P

[Erin Elizabeth]

66. I came close. I got to Yellowstone, Montana, North Dakota, etc.

Just didn't quite make it on that trip!

[PM7nj]

23. I agree. But don't get over confident.

We can't just sit around and just expect Obama to win. We have to work hard, no matter what.

[NorthAmerican]

27. I agree, and what a breath of fresh air it will be. n/t

[rug]

29. Which is another point. Just run an ad with a closeup of McCain's mouth. Worth at least 5%.

[sandnsea]

33. I agree, but I want to them hiding

so far under their rocks that they'll never find their way to the surface again.

[papapi]

34. Woo - - - Hooo - - Hoot! Hoot!!! Fired UP! No complacence here!

the day of reckoning is at hand and I'm on the train bound for glory. Hoo - - Hoot!!!

Virginia - - - - make me proud! We blew away george 'Macaca' allen and now we can blow away clone mcshame! Woo-Hoot!!!

[rug]

38. Oh, all right, dammit.

:woohoo:

[cbayer]

35. I think you are right, Rug.

Things will only get better for Obama and worse for McCain. It's going to be fun.

[rug]

37. It will indeed.

:hi:

[Wapsie B]

40. One word, Diebold.

[rug]

42. Two words, John McCain.

Sorry, he will make Dole look charismatic. Diebold's not good enough to fix that.

[anonymous171]

43. If they try it will look so obvious that people will revolt.

[Recursion]

41. Gah! Do you want to tempt the wrath of the guy from the place?

Step outside and spin around 3 times.

[Erin Elizabeth]

44. I TOTALLY agree, but I'm fearing overconfidence.

[rug]

46. I'm not. He's bound to do something so stupid and outrageous there's slim chance of lethargy.

But I think energy is better spent contemplating how the country will be governed rather than cataloging McCain's gaffes. If it looks like it's getting close I have no doubt he will be quickly slapped down.

[Erin Elizabeth]

56. No, I meant overconfidence on the part of Dems in general.

We still need to do what we need to do to help him win.

[KAZ]

63. Understand that feeling. My fear is that he won't be the puke nom.

[dailykoff]

47. It might look that way, but...

that's what I thought after Iowa, no offense intended. :shrug:

[rug]

49. Obama's toughest opponent was Clinton. McCain is an after dinner aperitif.

I may be wrong but it sure doesn't feel that way.

[dailykoff]

50. Well.. I also felt that way after Kerry wrapped it up

and then came the swiftboats and we know how that turned out. Another thing is that McCain is marginally smarter than W and actually has an honorable military record, so I'm guessing it won't be the cake walk it looks to be.

[rug]

51. Obama's a better candidate and McCain's a far worse candidate.

Plus, the lessons have been learned.

[dailykoff]

53. Five months of Wright, Rezko, flag pins, and maybe even Osama

can change things but I sure as hell hope you're right! :headbang:

[OwnedByFerrets]

52. The GOP is hoping we believe that

and do just as you suggest, scratch our collect balls and sit on our hands. Its going to take a great effort to wrench power from these bastards. The machine doesnt want to give it up easily. Plus, this isnt just about the Presidential election, its about Congress. We MUST add to our numbers in Congress if President Obama is going to be effect getting America back on track.

[rug]

54. Taking the Presidency is not the same as wrenching power from these bastards.

Nor is that accomplished simply by taking Congress as well.

BTW, I did not suggest scratching our collective balls is the solution. Taking power requires much more than that. Electing a President this year does not.

IMHO.

[Ladyhawk]

60. I've lost confidence in the political process and in politicians.

I don't think it will matter whether we have McCain or Obama as president.

[Name removed]

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[KAZ]

62. Your OP deserves a REC Rug. Time to end this nightmare.

[lojasmo]

65. Absolute rubbish.

I am going to work harder than I ever have in a general.

Leave it to you to lull us into complacency. What a crock.

[rug]

67. The only rubbish is the spin you're putting it.

I guess your old habits die hard.

[Willo]

70. You're right to be concerned about complacency.

I think we need to find additional motivators to ensure people get out and vote.
Some will not make the effort if they believe he's won in their state.

Perhaps push the message that we are looking for high turnouts because each vote will serve a dual purpose.
Cast one vote. Send two messages. Yes to Obama for President and No to our country's condition.

Challenge each state, county and town to represent themselves like never before.

[TrogL]

71. There isn't going to be an election

Either:

1. Dubya declares martial law

2. The Deibold machines with mess with the totals - again

[PlanetBev]

73. Beware the air of inevitability

Ask Hillary how that worked out for her.

Aesop Fables was onto something with "The Tortoise and the Hare."
(it was Aesop, wasn't it?)

Never, ever, relax.

[dsomuah]

74. Not yet

The republicans are going to do everything they can to try to take this one from us. We have to be vigilant.