I just have this to say about dems voting for McCain: It's irresponsible. It's also:

[cali]

stupid

petty

childish

selfish

stunted


I have nothing to say to those folks except they have my wholehearted contempt and disgust.

[Hoof Hearted]

1. That'll win 'em over.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Fuck them.

And the nonexistant horse they didn't ride in on.

[question everything]

7. Oh yeah, this will realy win us over

It is not your sentiments. Ir is a hard cold calculation:

Do you want to win in November, or not? Sometimes I think that many on DU would rather lose so that they won't be faced with governing which, surprise, requires a lot of compromise, whining, instead, about how the Clintons are to blame. And if not Clintons, they would find someone else to blame. All excuses except for behaving like adults.

We talk about a V.P. (not Hillary) who should complement the ticket. Don't you think that reaching to Hillary supporter and, yes, to her, should be part of complementing the ticket?

Unless, of course, you'd rather whine than behave like an adult.

[Forkboy]

8. No, the question is, do YOU want to win in November?

[question everything]

33. You are the victor. You won the primaries, now show that you can win

the general elections. I am just for the ride. I will vote for the Democratic nominee, have been saying this for two years now but there were many Obama supporters who said they would not vote for Clinton.

Here is what I said when a DUer asked what would I, a Clinton supporter, say to Obama supporters had Clinton won the race

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6251433&mesg_id=6251665

You fought a good fight. You believe in what you fought

your campaign brought up the best that is in our country. You showed that our party is blessed with having both a woman and a black can reach to the highest job in the world.

Now we need to unite and combine the best of both campaigns and supporters to take over the White House and Congress. The future of our country is at stake.

Senator Obama is young. No doubt, we will have a chance to learn more about him, and when he decides to run again, we will be right behind him.

Now, please, let's join hands together. Let's not look back at the hurtful things that we hurled at each other let's look forward to win in November.

(This is what I am hoping to hear from the Obama supporters. Instead my proposals have been met with a practical demand to cower and to grovel. People here do not understand that the magnanimous, generous winner is the first to offer his hand. This is also what we did with Germany and Japan after WWII).

[Forkboy]

35. My candidate didn't come close to winning. Obama was my next to last choice.

Nobody reached out to Kucinich supporters, and I didn't need them to. I didn't need my ego stroked. I didn't pout.

I understand what you say about a magnanimous winner, but the truth is that it's up to each person, and that person only, to do what's right. People shouldn't need anyone to be gracious, whether the victors should be or not. Their actions should be irrelevant to what people do in November. We are adults, not children. I'd be voting for Obama even if each and every one his supporters treated me like shit the whole time.

The choice is clear. There are times we have to swallow our pride in life...this is one of them (as almost every election has been for me).

[JuniperLea]

13. When you consider this whole deal is a makebelieve hoax

What the Hooligan said is wicked funny!

[HCE SuiGeneris]

20. Why, if you are a Democrat, do we have to win you over?

:eyes:

[slinkerwink]

23. We salute the Hillary supporters that support Clinton in supporting Obama

They're being good Democrats, and they know how important it is to win in 2008, and I welcome them. But, there are a few trolls stirring up trouble, and I'm tired of that. They are NOT Hillary supporters because they're not listening to Clinton at all when she says it would be a GRAVE ERROR to vote for McCain. Their lack of respect to Clinton in this instance tells me they're not 'real' Hillary supporters.

[JuniperLea]

27. You are right! It's a big hoax... a game...

A right wing trick... I'm not falling for it either.

[JuniperLea]

12. LOL!

Seriously.

The GOP Kool Aid is way strong these days, apparently.

[cali]

3. not interested. I don't think they're worth it, and I think a lot of those

saying they're life long dems are simply pukes.

[JuniperLea]

6. That's rather selfish

You'd count people out for a vote just because of a personal tick?

:eyes:

Besides, I don't think there are enough in that category to worry about. I think anyone who worries about such things are too susceptible to GOP bullshit talking points.

[Occam Bandage]

4. If they feel that John McCain has better policy proposals than the Democrats do,

then by all means, let them vote for him. If they're voting based on the demeanor of message board denizens, well, let 'em go hang out on Free Republic and see if they prefer the company.

[shadowknows69]

10. We'll find new voters to replace them

By three or four times I imagine.

[question everything]

5. Give it time. There are five months to election day

a lot of things can happen, mostly, many hurt feelings will have a chance to heal.

[oberliner]

9. What about Dems voting for Nader?

Would you say the same of them?

[cali]

11. yes. I would.

but McCain's policies are antithetical to democratic policies that I think it's even worse.

[cboy4]

14. WOW! That's deep Cali

I can't wait for your next revelation.

[cali]

18. it does seem pretty self evident, doesn't it?

Sometimes the obvious should just be stated simply and plainly.

[GoldieAZ49]

32. She is about as deep as a cup saucer.

and the 'revelations' would be helped with medication I bet.

[DesertFlower]

15. i agree.

[Youphemism]

16. Add to that list: "Opposite what Hillary asked and stands for" /nt

[Occam Bandage]

17. Isn't it time to change your signature?

The fat lady left the theatre over a week ago.

[cali]

19. LOL! Maybe that'll be my new sig.

[Skittles]

21. you've just described the behavior of a great portion of DU during the primary n/t

[Forkboy]

30. Hey, I'm not stunted!

:P

[MoonRiver]

22. Way to make your case....

NOT. :eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

24. And posting this shit day after day is

stupid

petty

childish

selfish

stunted



Just another veiled attack on Clinton supporters.

[cali]

26. paranoid much, monkey?

first of all, I haven't posted this repeatedly, monkey funk. Secondly, it's absolutely not a veiled hit on paranoid Clintonites. It's a direct hit on assholes, monkey; assholes who'll imperil the country by voting for McCain. Sorry, it strikes a nerve, monkey.

[MonkeyFunk]

29. not you,

but people have been posting some variant of this 10 times a day, every day. It's just tiresome, stupid and inane.

The implication is that Clinton supporters are bad democrats. Fuck that noise. The constant drumbeat of bullying assholism by Obama supporters is just downright sickening.

[JuniperLea]

28. Of course it's a THINLY veiled attack on Clinton supporters...

Because this whole thing is bullshit. It's a RW hoax, a game, a charade, a trick to further divide us. And our dear cali swallowed it whole.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. what's interesting is that the dems who said they'd vote for Bush

instead of Kerry was higher in 04 than for Obama this year. I'm not too worried about it. O will
capture a constituency of others to overcome any of the dems who say they'll go with McPain.

But, you are right.

[Carrieyazel]

31. I'm sure the Hillary is 44 crowd is rushing back there to report.

[RBInMaine]

34. ANYONE who votes McBUSH votes for DEAD AMERICANS IN IRAQ !!

[LiberalFighter]

36. Don't bother talking about that. Just giving them too much to think about.

Let them recover and they will be fine by election day.

But keep pushing this topic and we may lose some votes we would had had otherwise. They just need a few weeks to recover. And don't forget that we haven't had a primary this long AND this close in history with strong candidates.