HillaryIs44.org/Larry Johnson has now thrown Hillary under the bus

[scheming daemons]

"And a few words of advice to Hillary: If you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas."

http://hillaryis44.org/


Can there be any doubt now that this site was not really a pro-Hillary site in the first place, but a place for Obama-haters to gather under the guise of being "pro-Hillary"?


This site was one giant front-group for Repuke operatives. It was the original "Operation Chaos".



A message of caution in the future, folks. Other sites like this will pop up in the future - even during this campaign cycle.


Be on the lookout for faux-Obama Support sites.


Larry Johnson is not done. He'll find another outlet to achieve his goal.

[Muttocracy]

1. that saying in quotes was his snark toward her? (I don't wanna go look) nt

[scheming daemons]

3. Yes...

[blogslut]

4. That's hill44 snark

Death Squad Larry is still pushing the whitey video. "It's reeeeeal. I sweeeear!"

[Eric J in MN]

19. Why that nickname for him? NT

NT

[blogslut]

26. And I quote

One of the interesting legacies of the Reagan policy is that we have not had a military coup in any of those countries over the last 22 years--that use to be a fairly common. The Reagan policy of promoting democracy actually worked and the people of Central America have enjoyed the benefits. I'm not ignoring the abuses that occurred in Guatemala, Salvador or Honduras. The death squads and murders were awful. But we ultimately helped the various Central American nations--including Nicaragua--have free and fair elections. This is a mo better solution than backing oligarchs and military juntas. Which is what we did in the sixties and seventies.

link: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/12/23/173143/54/216#c216

[Elidor]

68. Oh, my

He really is a republican after all. And that's the nicest thing I could call him.

[WeDidIt]

65. The VP possibility has altered their thinking, too

Saw a post over there where Hillary as Veep was unacceptable so they'd STILL vote McCain.

As I've said all along, Hillaryis44 is a Republican site dedicated to concern trolling.

[IndianaGreen]

76. We had several of the Hillaryis44 pukes over here causing a lot of bad feelings

I am not surprised in the least that it turned out to be a GOP operation.

[rusty quoin]

2. And to think I liked this guy at one time. n/t

[scheming daemons]

6. Really? WHY?

[rusty quoin]

15. He did such a good job at defending Valerie Plame and he...

if I remember right was a witness at Conyer's basement meeting of the Downing Street Memos, though might be wrong with the last point.

[blogslut]

30. I think you mean Ray McGovern

n/t

[rusty quoin]

34. yes you are right. thanx n/t

[roguevalley]

74. he was also there. I remember.

[NanceGreggs]

5. I just posted that same quote on another thread ...

... and also referred to it as throwing Hillary under the bus.

When this site (and others like it) were started, it was "we'll take this to the convention", "we'll sign petitions on Hillary's behalf", "we'll all converge on Denver and be heard".

They have already moved into "Well, maybe Hillary isn't all that anyway, but there's no reason you shouldn't still vote for McCain, right?"

How easily-led do you have to be to have been drawn to these sites and still think they have "poor Hillary's" best interests at heart?

Talk about one born every minute ...

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Maybe they'll just change the name to "is44.com" ? nt

[Barack_America]

8. I read that thread. The post you selected was by far the most harsh...

The rest of the posts focused the hatred on Obama, Dean, Pelosi and the Democratic party in general.

It wasn't my impression that they had thrown Hillary "under the bus"...yet.

That being said, it's clear that those sites are not frequent by Democrats.

[Yael]

9. Larry Johnson is NoQuarter

Alex Rodreguez (Perot shill) is behind His44

[scheming daemons]

12. I thought H-IS-44 was ALSO a Johnson front?

[blogslut]

20. Twin sons of different mothers

Buzzards, I believe

[Yael]

23. Nope. It was uncovered a few months ago that Rodriguez

was behind the His44 site.

A quick search brought back:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6140258&mesg_id=6140662

Edit to add more:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6140258

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5056532

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4860614

[vaberella]

10. Agreed. Thanks for this scheming daemons.I think those of us who believe some bloggers, need alerts

Because the man named above is dangerous.

[Cha]

11. Or not.

achieve his goal.

[cbc5g]

13. Have you noticed 90% of that site is Obama-hate and not Hillary-praise?

hmmmm

[Colobo]

14. It's a Republican site.

[cbc5g]

16. ROFL!!! This post is hilarious, I dont know if its a joke or what

# moononpluto Says:
June 7th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

I wonder if the Repugs could have designed a genius plot.

Hold onto that MO video, until a few days before the dem convention, when Hillary has basically withdrawn, endorsed Obama and helped him and then drop it, throwing the party into complete shit. He’s fucked, she’s fucked and everyone else along with it.



# confloyd Says:
June 7th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

I found the information on no quarter in the comments. The commentators says the tape is real and Bob Dole has it and will not release it until 1 week before the general.




Bob Dole has the MO Whitey tape !! OH NOES!

Another quality post...


ABM90 Says:
June 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

There will no more CNN,MSNBC,FOX,for me.THey have assembled the worst bunch of human scum that they dare to call analysts,advisers,journalists,pundits,and now are recruiting blacks at a rate never seen before in MSM.

[vaberella]

21. Bob Dole?! Did you guys read Hillbuzz and one of Larry Johnson's other's it was Guiliani. How did

it go from Guiliani to Bob Dole?! Bob Dole is still alive?! What the hell? WTF? Next I'm going to hear Nixon has the tape and he had his water-gate cronies get it for him from beyond the grave.

This is the list of people who have this tape.

1. Repubs -LJ said so on NQ.
2. Roger Stone-- Some News Station has the tape. On the Hannity show he says the Clinton people have the tape and plan on releasing it.

3.Other guy on Foxnews- He heard, from someone who heard it from someone that they were going to drop it the following day (never happened!!).

4. Hillbuzz/Roger Stone---David Weigel from Reason has it linked---Guiliani (my New York former Mayor) had the tape.

5. Dole---has the tape.


How many tapes?! Not to mention ABC7 should have the tape since two of their anchors were at the women's luncheon where this took place.

[cbc5g]

25. This is a very disturbed man if he is making all this up

He has got to have some psychological issues.

[vaberella]

36. I think so as well. Each post the story changes just a bit. Those who pay attention can see it,

others just eat it up. Plus, 3 people took the time out to debunk it. Shoot, we came to find out that the Michelle Obama tape, which we all knew was a fake, was a novel called The Power Broker. Crap isn't it. Take an obscure book and adapt the story to this situation.

[Clovis Sangrail]

44. when he gets as nutty as William Cooper...

If he's sufficiently entertaining when he hits the peak of his insanity curve I'll go buy the book he puts out.
(for whatever reason people tend to become prolific towards the top of that curve)

[TahitiNut]

28. "recruiting blacks"??? Run for the hills!!!!

:sarcasm:

It's a hate site. Period. :puke:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

47. Haven't you heard...

...there is no racism.

[TahitiNut]

51. But, but, but ...

... I thought it was anti-white racism. :dunce:

Us poor, downtrodden, oppressed, disenfranchised white folk. :eyes:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

66. Like the

white woman from Manhattan who starred in her own outraged YouTube video being tossed out of the DNC pow wow? She said she was a third class citizen - white, Manhattan = third class:eyes:

[Mz Pip]

48. That's funny

I've heard Rudy has it. :rofl:

[vaberella]

57. It's Dole now, what the hell...Nixon, poor Carter might have the tape, give it to Reagan / Thatcher

While we're at it. This tape keeps swtiching hands.

[w13rd0]

49. "recruiting blacks"

wow, well, we can guess where a lot of those loonjobs are coming from

[genna]

70. A straw man argument that needs to be combatted

ABM90 Says:
June 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

There will no more CNN,MSNBC,FOX,for me.THey have assembled the worst bunch of human scum that they dare to call analysts,advisers,journalists,pundits,and now are recruiting blacks at a rate never seen before in MSM.

What I hear in the discussion boards, not just H44, is mixing in what some people have tried to call resentment---recruiting blacks at a rate never seen before in MSM----which consider to be latent racist sentiment into the conversation to distort the overall issue. If you muddy up the underlying issue, HRC lost and BHO won fair and square based on the rules the DNC party had, then we don't have to deal with it.

Or the other argument I hear which says hey these affirmative action backers picked the "unqualified black male" because they'd rather "select" "the black" than they would allow the white woman who has waited long enough for her turn. Why should we, whites, wait any longer?


Maybe that argument has merits in a resentment affirming atmosphere, but the real deal is if we don't touch the underlying issue and clarify them people get to walk around pushing the idea that whites have waited behind while these "symbols" muck up the real issues that concern people. Republicans will build and press the resenting folk from voting their interest because they are tired of dealing with all this race stuff anyway...can't we just get beyond this race talk.

Well if Democrats want to win, the clarification has to be made.

[rocktivity]

17. At least they're being honest about who the dogs are.

x(
rocknation

[slinkerwink]

18. Larry Johnson posted that he's voting for Bob Barr

[vaberella]

22. and Mickey Mouse as Veep, I'm sure.

[Occam Bandage]

24. I think now it's obvious that they were never pro-Hillary. They simply hate Obama.

[JPZenger]

27. They were allowed to use DU to push that site for months

DU needs to look closer at its rules. Alex Rodriguez of New York was able to use DU to push that cellpool of a website for months. They tried to overtake the Primary section of DU, and succeeded for weeks - with anti-Obama crap, while pretending to be pro-Hillary.

Then, those scum changed tactics and overloaded DU with vicious anti-Hillary posts, pretending to be Obama supporters.

That stuff didn't last long at www.dailykos, because they allow people rated as "trusted users" to hide those types of posts.

[Yael]

31. I can tell u r on point with the history.

;)

[genna]

71. New to this...trusted users?

What does that rating do for the people who post? Express their beliefs are geniune whereas other people who keep changing arguments are less so?


How would you modify DU rules?

[JPZenger]

75. Dailykos's Trusted Users

www.dailykos.com has a system that people with many positive ratings over a period of time are considered trusted users. They are allowed to rate posts so that they can be "hidden". In that, only the trusted users can read the hidden posts. If a person has many hidden posts, the moderator knows to ban them. A hidden rating can be overturned by many positive ratings.

Any DU member is allowed to positively rate posts. The postive ratings make it easier to find the good posts when a topic gets many responses.

[PM7nj]

29. Someone on Larry Johnson's site said Obama wants to annex the USSR.

You know... the USSR.... the one that hasn't existed in 16 years!

[vaberella]

32. Lordy. Why not say that Obama wants to create a time machine to bring back Genghis Kahn....

[Bolo Boffin]

35. I for one welcome our Carthaginian overlords. n/t

[vaberella]

58. They lost. the Mongol history lives on.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

50. I think that's a

swell idea.

Bring back the Mongol Hordes.

It'll be real nifty.

[vaberella]

59. I agree, I thought Genghis Kahn was the greatest man that ever lived.

[NNguyenMD]

54. I'm sorry this was Larry Johnson the former CIA analyst who spoke out against the war

and spoke up about the Valerie Plame ordeal?

Wasn't this guy on our side for the past 3 years?

[PatGund]

69. He was...

sad, isn't it?

[George_Bonanza]

33. Hillaryis44 is full of...

Centrists and right-wingers with no allegiance to liberal values. They only jumped ship to the Hillary cruise because they wanted "one of their own" (a white woman) to have a chance at the presidency.

[Canuckistanian]

37. Larry Johnson just registered as a Republican.

See for yourself....

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

[vaberella]

38. Hey may say he "just" did but I'm starting to think he always was. you can change your political

affiliation in 5 minutes at the board of elect. So meh...

[Canuckistanian]

39. Well it's the latest post on his board

And thing like "posts on your own board" tend to stick with you for the rest of your life.

Of course he was a Repub plant. His refusal to acknowledge Hillary's concession confirms it.

The man is, was and always had been a fraud.

Pity. I used to like his blog.

[vaberella]

40. Well I figured something was up when the "Whitey" tape kept coming up with all this news that made

it seem so inplausable. It's screwed up how many wholes and then to find out it was a novel. I was like no wonder. What shocked me even more was taht people let this take off, so much that it went to mainstream media. It's like no writer or Blogger does their research. I only know 2 people researched and debunked it before Obama. One combined all the debunkings and added their own rasons why it doesn't fit. then it was over.

From news station to repubs to Guiliani to Dole.

From Michelle on pulpit at TUCC, then to women's lucheon convention with Biill around/her husband becoming senator/ABC7 reporters, to Louis Farrakahn being there, then changing to his wife. Ugh...it's just a mess with way too many different stories.

It's a joke of a situation with way too much info. At this point I don't trust anything that's said from taht site.

[vaberella]

41. accidental double post.

[Blue-Jay]

42. I'm SHOCKED!

SHOCKED I say!

[Canuckistanian]

43. I'm.... what's the phrase for it.....

Going to have a heart attack and die from NOT being surprised.

[Garbo 2004]

46. Larry was a Republican for decades. The poster "NancyInCali" is the one who said she's switched

parties after being a "lifelong Democrat."

[muryan]

45. The thing I can't understand

And never have...is why Donna Brazile is so hated by these rabid lunatics. It's almost always "AND GAWD DAM DEAN/HUSSAINE/DNC/BRAZIL!!!!!111"

Honestly, what is her relevance to this?

[w13rd0]

52. Um...

...she's black.

[cbc5g]

53. It's close (maybe already is??) to being a racist hate site

Judging by a lot of the posts that are flourishing there.

[Pushed To The Left]

55. That probably has a lot to do with their hatred of Obama as well. The more I hear about these people

the more I think this stuff might be racially motivated. These people were probably never true Democrats or Clinton supporters.

[vaberella]

60. She's a convincing well spoken Black woman. That's a deadly combination. She doesn't fall for

traps and that's something to be feared by any party. Fortunately for us, she's on our side so she'll always be hunted down.

[genna]

72. I think Brazille's position in the DNC is a problem for them. Why should she have her say AND be

listened to?

Hate is hate even when it masquerades as resentment or the other amorphous strands. It is obvious to me that it is subtle, but evident.

It reminds me of the anarchists joining protests to make them as violent and unpredictable as possible. The problem here is protesters want to embrace the picture these anarchists present as reality.

For those who want to embrace change, I think you have to be willing to analyze the bogus arguments presented and expose for those willing to reject the loving image of protest whose company they are keeping. Unless they want to embrace anarchists wholeheartedly, they should recoil from the true reflection.


I think it is a time consuming project for those willing to call people out on their b.s.

[Chulanowa]

56. Has Obama EVER pointed a finger and said "y'all are racists"? To anyone?

Has he ever alluded to it? No.

So where is the "OBAMBI CALLS US RACISTS!" thing coming from... if not projection?

[vaberella]

61. When a Black person says "White America" = Racism. The Pastor Wright issue, doesn't help you either.

[w13rd0]

62. help "you"...

...meaning you are one of "them"?

And are you trying to tell me there ISN'T a distinction?

Are you going to tell me that there are cemetaries all over this country that have white & black people buried there (other than Arglington or a Potter's Field)?

I'm sorry, but if you don't believe there is a distinction, you may be living in "white America".

[Adelante]

64. Actually, there are

"Are you going to tell me that there are cemeteries all over this country that have white & black people buried there (other than Arlington or a Potter's Field)?"

There always have been.

Just FYI.

[vaberella]

67. Who are you and what is your deal? I suggest getting over yourself.

My entire statement was sarcasm. I didn't think I had to add a disclaimer on to my posts. And FYI I don't get your "you" versus "them". My you, was entirely general...ugh!! Why am I bother making my post clear. You already have your stance.

[WeDidIt]

63. OF COURSE THEY DID!

It was never about Hillary. IT was about drumming up support for McCain the entire time.

[Peacetrain]

73. Things have been and are going to get

much uglier on the net I'm afraid.. this is the wild wild west of rumors.. and if they can just get it out enough so that people hear it once or twice, it will get stuck in their heads.. because lets be honest folks.. most people are not on the net going to scopes etc to find out the truth..

What we are looking at is the Atwater/Rove strategy on the net.. THANK GOD Senator Obama is on top of this stuff..

Serious 527's on the net and just your atypical I can mess with all of those people beans for brains individuals... we need to be ready to jump back at those in a heart beat..

I think we could be looking at a cyber war..