Do you think the Dems will ever see the likes of the Johnson landslide numbers again?

[book_worm]

I'm hoping with the 50-state strategy that eventually the Democrats will have another '64 style landslide in a presidential race. It may not be this year (though I think we will win), but hopefully soon.

In '64 Johnson won 43,127,041 or 61.05% of the popular vote to Goldwater's 27,175,754 or 38.47% and took the electoral college 486-52.

There have been only two other huge landslides of this calibar since then--both going to GOP presidents: Nixon in '72 with 60.6% and Reagan in '84 with 58.7%

[PATRICK]

1. 2012

because either the Jeb Bush comeback machine will have given up and left a bitter vacuum or some slug will finally be allowed to crawl out from under the ruin to get squished. That plus the unknowable and how the public reacts to the Dems and whether the goddawful repressive corporate news system and crooked voting system remains intact.

The GOP has left a void of neocons accompanying the Bush dynasty and all comers are as bad or destroyed as competitors. If that power struggle continues(mere votes do not have the effect they have in our party) the GOP could simply continue degenerating and squabbling. Corporate sponsors will lay siege to Dems in the meanwhile. THAT is the danger and the crippling of progress.

Campaign finance reform above all or the possible landslides themselves lose progressive hope.

[On the Road]

2. I Suspect It Will Take Another Generation

It will require the Southeast. Much of it is changing. The Appalachian area are the holdouts.

[K Gardner]

3. I think it will be this year. I really do. Obama hasn't had a chance to take the stage yet.. not

really. He's been battling Hillary AND McCain, but once he starts defining himself, it's all over.