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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:38 PM
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Hillary Clinton has succeeded in her goal to divide the Dem party in '08
She has reserved the right to take this compromise to the convention and she will. She will take a victory tomorrow in Puerto Rico as vindication. She will stay in the race and she and her crazy supporters like the woman who pushed an Obama supporter and those who yelled, "McCain in 08" and "Nobama" will make sure that the convention is a disaster. She wants nothing more than to have the democrats lose this year so that she can run again in 2012. If this is some plot to get the vice presidency because "it will be the only way to bring the party together" after the convention I hope Obama will see through that, too.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:41 PM
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1. Obama's race card playing via nothing Hill said split the party
Edited on Sat May-31-08 08:41 PM by papau
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:42 PM
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2. Obama has run a clean campaign while Hill said from the time she lost Iowa
that she was going to throw the kitchen sink and she has. Are you going to vote for Obama in November, yes or no?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:48 PM
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11. I guess you can't answer the question.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:43 PM
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3. papau
What a crock of fucking shit.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:43 PM
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5. just adorable
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:43 PM
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6. At this point, it's pretty hard to avoid the fact that Hillary has been playing the "sexism" card...
...and quite successfully, might I add.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:45 PM
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8. You're really a piece of
work.

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:49 PM
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12. You have 11 days left.
Get it out of your system
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:43 PM
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4. 'We the People'
Edited on Sat May-31-08 08:45 PM by elleng
continue to 'split' the 'party,' just as the MSM wishes.

Have a GREAT time guys!

Its RACISM!!!


Its SEXISM!!!

ITS ANOTHER 4 REPUBLICAN YEARS!
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:44 PM
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7. No she hasn't. It's over now.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:46 PM
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9. No she hasn't. You ascribe to her more power than she actually has
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:04 PM
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18. Yes, she has.
She could have showed some class and shut down her more outrageous supporters - but instead she eggs them on.

Obama requested his supporters NOT demonstrate today as a counter-protest to the Hillfans. His supporters respected his wishes.

She could have done the same.

She didn't.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:47 PM
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10. The 'hold my breath till I turn blue' strategy probably won't get her too far
in either scenario. Obama would be a fool to put her on the ticket under any circumstances. I'd bet he'd just as soon lose without her than with her. I also can't begin to imagine who would vote for her in 2012 after her disgusting behavior.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:49 PM
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13. It might look like that right now, but
this isn't the Clintons call. Voters will have the final say, and with each passing day, Democrats and others are coming around to the "DEMOCRATS versus the Republicans," aspect of this election.

Trust me...I've seen this movie.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:50 PM
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14. not even close. most Dems I know don't go to DU or Atrios, etc.
they just go to work every day...read the newspaper...maybe watch some CNN. They will all unite behind our nominee Barack Obama. And they will feel slightly superior to their GOP relatives and coworkers because they are helping to vote in our first African American president.

The division you saw was at the higher party power level and that divide is being mended. The party divide you see now is just a tiny sampling of us whackos who are political junkies and love to hash things out and take intractable positions on DU.

Provided the party can come together and HILLARY can say the things she needs to say in the next week, this protracted battle will have been a net positive.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:50 PM
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15. As you write this, I bet there are
Edited on Sat May-31-08 08:51 PM by nadinbrzezinski
negotiations in the background

You and I will be the last ones to hear it officially, but it is over

And if she indeed takes this to the convention, her pariah status will be assured.

Look no campaign stops fighting overtly until a second before they concede, but that is coming

Today was the last nail in that coffin and they no longer control the DNC

On and one more thing, MOST people didn't watch the sausage making this morning.

Nor are they paying attention to this

Most of what WE know is truly inside baseball
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:01 PM
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16. I hope you are right.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:03 PM
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17. talk to some of your neighbors
unless they are political junkies I can bet they will give you a look of WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? If you ask them what happened this morning.

Or they might bring the whatever sport they are following into the conversation

And as to Clinton concession, there have been signals (some contradicted by Ickes today) that indeed they are getting ready to bow out. But i suspect Ickes move was his last gasp
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:06 PM
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19. Yup, it worked like a charm for her /nt
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