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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:17 PM
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Thank you Mark Shields! n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:21 PM
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1. No, thank you, Gene Kelly!
Thank you, sir, for all the memories
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:23 PM
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2. Wow. It must have been a really good night.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:24 PM
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3. Thank you Robert Shields
and lets not forget Yarnell.

(I think I just dated myself)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 05:15 AM
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6. That picture always makes me think
Kerry is clawing at himself.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:49 PM
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4. What did he do?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:04 PM
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11. Link:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:37 PM
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13. You mean this - pretty strong stuff
MARK SHIELDS: I think it is a problem. I think that Father Pfleger in that video that we saw makes a stronger case against the electability of Barack Obama than has ever been mounted by the Clinton campaign. It raises those kinds of questions, Ray.

And I think that it was the worst possible message at the worst possible time. It was sexist and it was racist both, that message was. And I really do think that, at a time when Barack Obama is reaching out, especially to white women, many of whom are zealous in their support of Hillary Clinton, but who are lukewarm, if not hostile to Barack Obama, it's the worst possible message.

And to bring up that moment in New Hampshire when an awful lot of women identified with her, when Hillary Clinton, in my judgment, having been in New Hampshire at that moment, was very much authentically responding to a human kindness, and then was savaged by male commentators on cable television, I think that was this moment when vast legions of American women voters identified with Hillary Clinton.

And so to revisit that, Father Pfleger did just an enormous disservice. I think Obama, in his own interest and interest of decency, owes her a call and a public apology for what was said in that video.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:51 PM
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5. Insufficient data. n/t
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:28 AM
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7. Are you by any chance referring to his remarks last night on The NewsHour?
I think it is a problem. I think that Father Pfleger in that video that we saw makes a stronger case against the electability of Barack Obama than has ever been mounted by the Clinton campaign. It raises those kinds of questions, Ray.

And I think that it was the worst possible message at the worst possible time. It was sexist and it was racist both, that message was. And I really do think that, at a time when Barack Obama is reaching out, especially to white women, many of whom are zealous in their support of Hillary Clinton, but who are lukewarm, if not hostile to Barack Obama, it's the worst possible message.

And to bring up that moment in New Hampshire when an awful lot of women identified with her, when Hillary Clinton, in my judgment, having been in New Hampshire at that moment, was very much authentically responding to a human kindness, and then was savaged by male commentators on cable television, I think that was this moment when vast legions of American women voters identified with Hillary Clinton.

And so to revisit that, Father Pfleger did just an enormous disservice. I think Obama, in his own interest and interest of decency, owes her a call and a public apology for what was said in that video.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june08/credentials_05-30.html

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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:45 AM
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8. K&R. Shields gets it. Obama owes HRC a call and a public apology for Pfleger's sexist, racist rant
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june08/credentials_05-30.html

And David Brooks agreed:


DAVID BROOKS: Yes, I think that particular idea is a very good thing. I think it would be a wonderful gesture. I don't think Obama would lose a thing by it. It would be magnanimous. He would show he would understand the seriousness of it.

Let's face it. That anger of a lot of women, in particular, who feel Hillary Clinton has been completely maltreated by the media and the culture, that is something we all face when we go around the country and talk to people. That anger is real.

And somehow he's got to deal with that, because you just feel it in the air.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:59 AM
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9. Fine.
He'll do that just as soon as he gets a call from Bob Johnson, Billy Shaheen, Geraldine Ferraro, James Carville, et al
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:03 AM
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10. Hillary never apologized to Obama for her assassination remarks. The priests' words didn't come from
Obama!!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:58 PM
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14. If he is smart
and I think he is - he will not follow your self-defeating, off target and mean spirited advice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:10 PM
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12. Hillary didn't care about the racist rants HER spokespeople made. Pfleger's not even a spokesman
and it is RACIST and unfair for all of you who insist just for political posturing that Obama has to apologize for every word that comes out of a black person's mouth or anyone else who speaks at a black church.

YOU want Obama to be responsible for all black people? Well, I want Clintons and Clinton supporters to be responsible for Bush2, 9-11 and this Iraq war, because all those happened because Clintons deep-sixed BCCI matters throughout the 90s to protect Poppy Bush and his powerful cronies.

Some sense of REAL proportion you and Clinton supporters have going there.
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