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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:53 PM
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Novak say's Bush has uphill battle to beat Kerry
I thought he was going to cry after he said that. Novak has Kerry leading 301-238.
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canuckybee Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:54 PM
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1. Someone please make him cry !!!!!
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:55 PM
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2. Who Cares
Novac is a douch bag against liberty. I don't care what he says.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:58 PM
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6. Agreed.
But it's significant that he's finally admitting the TRUTH.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:05 PM
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24. Could it be old no facts is feeling the heat
from the Valerie Plame outing?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:56 PM
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3. I heard it too!! I briefly switched on CNN out of curiosity, and voila!
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 03:23 PM by saywhat
there was Novak, sweating nails over the EC!! :bounce:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:02 PM
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11. cute! but do you mean voila? (i like your version, tho...!) nt
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:22 PM
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22. Yeah. I forgot how it is spelled. I took German fer God's sake!
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 03:24 PM by saywhat
on edit: I fixed it! Thanks!
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:42 AM
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33. Support underappreciated mid-sized string instruments
It should always be spelled that way! Who the heck knows what the other spelling means?
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:56 PM
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4. Novak
should go to prison for his role in the CIA leak incident.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:57 PM
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5. novak was very depressed
giving so much rethug bad news. But I stilldon't trust him, this might be a ploy to seem like everything is going down until the convention and them BAM the Joementum kicks in.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:01 PM
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9. "somebody said that there must be a catch.....
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 03:02 PM by buycitgo
.....with a fool and his money"

"HUH NEY"

seriously.....something's amiss here

is it a game of lowered expectations, being played on the electoral scale?

do you for one moment TRUST anything that comes out of those lying uppers?

think

what's their game with this?


mmmmmmK, I started typing this while numbers 8 and 9 were being posted......pretty obvious, I guess
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 09:55 PM
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23. They want to run Bush as the "underdog" - the outsider etc etc
He has no record, only promises.

They want him perceived of as underdog, the scrappy fighter taking on Washington.

Well, at least that would be my plan given the state of things. . .
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:08 PM
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16. The guy assisted in the outing of a CIA agent.
He's a traitor who is not to be trusted.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:12 PM
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25. Question
I read an article not long ago about Russert having to answer questions about this and another reporter went to jail for contempt of court because he refused to answer questions about this.

What I'd like to know is why in the blue blazes isn't Novak being told to talk or go to jail?

Cyn:)
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Dem_Strategist Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 02:58 PM
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7. DON'T BUY IT
The Note, Charlie Cook, Novak: lowering expectations for Bush to beat post-convention.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:02 PM
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12. Maybe, but those same numbers, a little higher for Kerry actually,
have been posted here every day for awhile now. See TruthIsAll's posts.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:04 PM
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15. And the CNN/Gallup poll will give Bush a 5 pt bounce at least...
no matter what happens at the convention.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:00 PM
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8. I don't trust anything that guy says.
Anything.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:01 PM
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10. Except that what he's saying we know to be true!
We've all been posting the same things here!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:04 PM
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14. We don't know that. We hope that. Don't trust Novak, even
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 03:05 PM by janx
if he's saying something we hope to be true.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:15 PM
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17. We DON'T?
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Kerry 307; * 231. Also check out TruthIsAll's daily posts on EC results. Novak is conceding defeat.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:16 PM
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18. But remember that the GOP Convention & debates are yet to come...
and we all know how the media will spin these.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:18 PM
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20. Yes. Those are unknowns.
I think Kerry is going to win fair and square, though. How much Repuke cheating will go on is another unknown.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:35 AM
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30. Are They Known Unknowns?
That is, are they things we know we don't know? Or they unknown unknowns -- things that we don't know we don't know?

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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:03 PM
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13. Lower the expectations, cast Bush as the underdog.
Yep. I'd be doing it, too. Without any accomplishments of note, without a coherent election theme, he might as well make the theme of his election "I'm an underdog, vote for me."
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 10:21 PM
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26. But The Fearless Leader Of A Nation At War, My Friend
Edited on Thu Aug-12-04 10:23 PM by The Magistrate
Cannot run as the underdog, not without causing a great many people to question his competence or their sanity. The fearless leader of a nation at war must be the top dog, or he is no leader men will follow. Running this wretch now as an underdog is an act of marketing madness akin to tryin, g to maintain a brand as Niemann-Marcus stock while shelving it in the local K-Mart. It really cannot be done successfully. Granted, these people might try it, but if they do, it will surely fail, and amid hoots of derision....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 08:59 AM
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27. Truman did it in 1948.
Like Bush, he was an unpopular president (he was actually more unpopular than Bush is), who had legitimacy issues (he was elevated to the presidency by FDR's death, of course, plus he was seen as a creature of the machine of Boss Pendergast, an association he never quite lived down). In many ways, Truman was really running for election in 1948, not re-election -- just like Bush.

It's good to see you still hanging around. We have our differences, but we seem to share a rather passionate desire to see a certain person run back to Texas, or whatever other place he chooses to curse with his presence ;-)
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 10:52 AM
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34. Glad To See You Still About As Well, Sir
Our agreements, particularly in this matter, are much greater than our differences: the criminals of the '00 Coup must be routed from office and lodged under a jail if the Republic is to be preserved in any form we would recognize from our youth.

President Truman, though, was not at war in '48. Even the Cold War was just beginning at that time. There do not seem to me to be any really useful analogies to the present situation in that election....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:41 AM
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32. I agree that he can't run as the underdog but
he can run as if he's under siege. He can play it like "not only do I have to deal with the terrorists, but I have these godless democrats who wont just take my word as gospel and look how they're undermining our war and making it so much harder for us".
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 10:59 AM
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35. That Would Hurt Him Badly, Ma'am
He would seem weak and petulant. Nobody wants excuses and recitations of difficulties besetting him from a war leader: they want fearless calm and assurance, and above all, competence and victory, that make light of any and all difficulties. These things this wretch cannot provide; he lacks the character for it. His entire life has been a tissue of flops and excuses, and he will be paying the bill for that this fall....

"The eagerness of green troops for combat is not to be relied on much."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:17 PM
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19. Novak: "The sky is blue." Me: Looking outside to make sure.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 03:21 PM
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21. BINGO!!!
Precisely.

BREAKING: Novak drops a shoe.

Followup: Walt Starr is waiting for the other one.
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canuckybee Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:04 AM
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28. Novak is just covering his ass
so that when Bush loses he can point to where he "knew it all along".
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:27 AM
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29. God, I hope the Kerry campaign doesn't actually believe this. but
they way they're campaigning they remind me eerily of this quaote from Too Close to Call: "By the middle of October,Gore figured it was his race to lose." As it turns out, it was.

Chimp is campaigning like an underdog. Kerry is responding like he's thirty points ahead.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 09:38 AM
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31. He also said if Kerry wins the GOP would implode
He said it would set republicans back fifty years or more. They have much invested in Bush*. They got greedy and blew it IMHO. If they would have put a few of their programs into play at a time instead of trying to ramrod their whole conservative agenda all at once they may just have done it. They overstepped and I truly hope Novakula is right about this. I hope it sets them back so far they never step up again.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-04 11:19 AM
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36. we need the house and Senate, they know a tidal wave is headed at them
they will stop at nothing to not get swept away by it, we have to brace for anything and everything
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