Is Gephardt out as a VP pick?

[4_Legs_Good]

I don't know why, but I keep coming back to him when I think about how to open the midwest. If either Gore or Kerry had chosen him as a runningmate we'd be in the White House right now, I don't doubt.

OTOH, his star is probably passed, but a lot of his former team are on board with Obama now according to the articles out today about the campaign.

I dunno, just thinking.

David

[last1standing]

1. The man behind the "latte drinking" ad against Howard Dean in 2004?

The ad no one would admit to running because it was so heinous? The man who supported bush* on nearly every piece of legislation?

I'm going to have to say no on that one. And to be honest, almost no one in the Midwest even remembers the guy. He was a failure as a Dem leader in the house as well.

[dkf]

2. The IWR was his baby. Are you thinking of Daschle? I know his crew are with

Obama. I wasn't aware of Gephardt's people.

Some are floating Tom Daschle as Obama's Chief of Staff.

[4_Legs_Good]

4. This is part of the yahoo news article I read earlier today

http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/may/25/obama-team-is-on-the-verge-of-seeing-belief-in-him/

I can't find the original, but I think there was more than one reference to Gephardt people working in the Obama campaign.

David

[lurky]

3. Deleted.

Sorry, I was thinking of Daschle... :blush:

[charlie]

5. Mr Excitement?

The idiot who wore his happy face in the Rose Garden with Bush and cut the knees out from under Democrats who were trying to organize opposition to the Iraq farce? No thanks, I'm interested in a clean break from Dems who instinctively buckle when Republicans charge them with being "soft" on whatever. Too bad, the Obama administration could use someone who's as good on labor issues as Dick.

[tokenlib]

6. I'd forgotten Gephardt....

It is as if he's dropped off the face of the planet. Considering the war--I am not surprised...

[Purveyor]

7. I hope he was never 'on the list'... "Gephardt who?"... eom

[JoFerret]

21. If you kept at it

you (and several others on this thread) could probably single-handedly alienate three quarters of the voting democrats. Fortunately Obama has more sense.

[sasquatch]

8. Gephardt!? I think we had enough of the pink tutu democrats for a lifetime thank you

[JoFerret]

16. Obama wears a pink tutu too

Did you not know?

Under the Muslim robes, of course.
But only when he's with Donnie McClurkin.

(Don't diss good democrats.)

[sasquatch]

20. Post #9

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. In the Rose Garden on Bush's lap Gephardt? I think not.

[LTR]

10. I thought he was retired from politics

He's kinda old.

Besides, the biggest thing he would bring to the table is union support, and Obama already has that.

[Debi]

23. Yeah, at 67 he's probably drooling and using a walker on his way to play bingo

:crazy: Oh, to be so young as to think 67 is 'kinda old'.

[hfojvt]

30. Huh? 36 is 'kinda old'. 67 is 'really old'

bordering on ancient.

[Debi]

34. *snark*

We gotta keep those old folks from running for office!

[LTR]

33. I thought he was older

Like early 70s.

Forgive me.

[Debi]

35. Forgiven

Mr. Debi is 65 and nowhere near 'old'. Several members of Congress are in their sixties (two who ran for President this time around Biden at 65 and Dodd at 62) and I wouldn't consider them old either. I don't know that chronological age makes a person old - but mindset and abilities - for instance there are some chronologicaly 'young' republicans who have gotten very very old of late. x(

[TexasObserver]

11. No. His VP ambitions ended the morning he was picking up dog doo on national news.

2004

He was supposedly under consideration for VP in 2004. He was interviewed early one morning by all the news networks, as he was taking his dog outside for its morning business. He was shown then picking up after the dog. Nothing out of the ordinary, just not what the VP needs to be seen doing.

[dsc]

13. that has got to be the most assine reason not to choose a man for VP

that I have ever read.

[Why Syzygy]

12. Yes. He's nothing special.

[dansolo]

14. Absolutely no for so many reasons

Gephardt struck a deal with the Bush administration and shut down debate on the IWR. That is the beggest reason. I won't even support Edwards because of his vote, and he'd even apologize for it. But Gephardt and Lieberman have a special place in hell for their roles in pushing the Iraq War.

[Debi]

25. Dean supporters don't forget his behavior in 2003-4, do we? n/t

[JoFerret]

15. I doubt it

but the nastiness about him on this thread is disgraceful.

[Debi]

26. He has earned it - in his position w/the DCCC - in his behavior in the 2004

race - in his working with the Bush administration w/regard to IWR. Gephardt did great work in Congress, but his behavior in the last decade has tarnished his reputation.

[quaker bill]

17. one can only hope n/t

[Johnny__Motown]

18. I Wish.... I voted for him in the '04 Primary, Honestly I think he could have won when Kerry lost

But maybe that is just me. I was anti-NAFTA from way way back, just like Mr. Gephardt.




I don't think he is in the top 10 for VP picks. Sec. of Labor maybe. Something like that would be great. He does not hold office ATM so we don't need to give up a sitting _______ to fill a cabinet position. (Also why I think Edwards will get a seat somewhere)

[saltpoint]

19. Kerry at 37% or so, Edwards at 32%, Howard Dean at just over 17% in

the 2004 Iowa caucus totals, with Dick Gephardt buried alive at 11%.

He was thought early on to have a strong advantage in Iowa. He was from neighboring Missouri, he'd won Iowa once before, he was a kind of inoffensive bland moderate-liberal, he was tall, he had freckles.

One of Obama's plus issues is his opposition to Bush's Iraq invasion. Gephardt, as House Speaker, very publicly endorsed Bush in Rose Garden appearances on the Iraq War.

I think that issue alone would be disqualifying, and I'm not certain Gephardt as veep nom could easily give us Missouri. Or I could be wrong on both counts. The veep noms of both major parties are going to be a great story in this election cycle.

[Debi]

27. Iowans were pissed at Gephardt for many reasons - and just like Clinton this cycle -

he chose to ignore any of the signs and just campaign 'as if'. The outcome was the same.

[saltpoint]

28. Hi, Debi. But the over-riding consideration for a Gephardt veep selection

would be that the New York POST has already readied its headline, "IT'S GEPHARDT!" to run again on the last day of the Denver convention.


:hi:

[Debi]

31. OMG, I forgot about that one!

Thanks OC!

[saltpoint]

32. There it is! Not the best of moments for the POST, was it!

[Debi]

22. Did he deliver MO for Clinton? Did he support Obama? What has he done

since smearing Dean in 2003?

[BlooInBloo]

24. Meh. More people just throwing out names that they've heard before.

[newmajority]

29. As a Deaniac from 2004, I'm not a big fan of Mr. Gephardt.

If President Obama made him Secretary of Labor, I could live with that. But VP? HELL no.