Is Kerry being "gored" by network news?

[wurzel]

Are they at it again? Or is it me? Recently Kerry seems to be shown always on the defensive. His statements are now constantly being parsed, challenged, and even contradicted by "reporters". Meanwhile Bush is getting a totally free pass. Just today an NPR reporter talked about how Bush introduced Goss in Florida as a "great Floridian". Challenging, the reporter said, the Democrats to appose. This was all in a tone of admiration. Boston, we have a problem.

[NewJeffCT]

1. your'e just noticing this now?

Kerry changes some positions on issues over 20 years... Bush has changed virtually every position he has taken in 3 1/2, yet Kerry is portrayed as an indecisive flip-flopper while Bush is strong & resolute.

[wurzel]

6. I'm not just talking about biased content..

I'm talking about the actual manner of "reporters" when talking about Kerry. The tone of voice they adopt. The smirky attitude. The patronizing manner when they are "being fair" to Kerry. I don't think that can be scripted. It seems to me, since the convention, there is a definite shift beyond the bias we normally expect. But I'm also paranoid about being paranoid.

[dennis4868]

8. you are not being paranoid ......

the fact that the media is even giving this group called Swiftboat veterans for truth any airtime at all is proof that they are not fair to Kerry. These guys are falt out lieing and still get air time....it is amazing!

[wurzel]

11. Reporters are adopting Bush's body language as well as his lies.

The reporter's manner and "body language" when "reporting" is very effective and a lot more difficult to challenge. They seem to not only to have adopted Bush's lies, but his body language as well. Am I seeing too much here? This is what I mean by my Paranoia

[Ducks In A Row]

22. my thought exactly

[wurzel]

23. Please see my post #11

I wasn't clear enough. I don't mean just the routine misrepresentation of Kerry's views with a free pass for Bush. I'm really trying to get at the manner in which this is being done. It seems much more insidious than it was acouple of weeks ago.

[dbt]

2. Bet on it.

Democrats and Liberals (yes, there is a difference) have been fair game for the Media Borg since the early days of Limpballs himself.

Expect to hear the increasing bleat of "Republicans good, Democrats baaaa-aad" from now until Election Day--if there is one.

:argh:
dbt

[amber dog democrat]

3. 65% of what comes out of the media is propaganda

Espedcially the "mainstream" media whores. They can not be counted on to do their jobs with even a sense of objectivity.
I am shocked, shocked - did you hear me ?

[Doctor_J]

10. 65%?

you mean 95%, I guess. * is now lying on a daily basis, and there is no serious examination of his increasingly ridiculous canards - none. the network news is 95% bushaganda, and 5% Kobe.

[amber dog democrat]

15. I DID mean 95% but I want to stay from too broad a generalization.

I figured 65% was a more believable value. Personally what comes out of the media is all garbage and lies. It was true when I was coming of age in the Vietnam War and is true today.

[dennis4868]

4. Where have you been?

Of course Kerry is being "Al Gored" by the so-called liberal media....there is no one in the mainstreem media who will come out and tell the people about Bush's lies and many many flip-flops these past 3 1/2 years. Bush's lies are big and small and many effect people lives...life or death. Kerry's are trivial...lets see was Kerry in Cambodia or not 30 years ago? Real important stuff. Bush lies us into a god damn war, almost 1000 soldiers are dead and he gets a free pass by the liberal media.

Of course Kerry is being GORED!

[wurzel]

7. Please read my post #6 n/t

[SeveneightyWhoa]

5. Bob Somerby says Kerry is NOT being Gored.

You know, the guy from The Daily Howler.
He thinks the media has gotten much better and is not intent on destroying Kerry. I think Bob would know!

[JHB]

9. It may be better than last time, but...

...they're still letting the Republican attack machine call the tunes, without examining in detail what has been Republican Campaign SOP since at least 1988.

[sendero]

12. Well...

... there goes his credibility!

There was a time when a sitting president would get more scrutiny than a challenger, after all his record is there for all to see.

Not in these times.

Yes, the "media" is getting its talking points/marching orders from the same Repug operatives and they are following orders. But to me, they are getting WAY to obvious. When it is nonstop bullshit with not even a nod to balance, people start to notice. People know the economy sucks, and no amount of spinning the numbers will replace a lost job.

Let the media continue their festival of lies. They are shooting themselves in the foot.

[buycitgo]

13. something is wrong ini somerville

one of the things is, perhaps, that he was Gore's roommate in college, and might have a vested interest in "seeing" that Kerry isn't being Gored

who knows?

he really went off the deep end over Joe Wilson, so I don't hold his judgment as in high regard as I used to

and, AFA Kerry not being Gored, all one needed to see was NBC's treatement of Kerry last night. they MISSTATED his position on the IWR, while playing SEVERAL of Bush's insulting comments about Kerry, also showing a fawning clip of McCain with Bush. Meanwhile, they gave Kerry a few SECONDS of airtime on this topic

I started a thread on it last night, I was so furious

[Feanorcurufinwe]

21. Link?

[sadiesworld]

14. No.

Not that the media is being FAIR to Kerry, but I don't think he is being Gored. In 2000, the press took obvious lies about Gore and repeated them ad nauseam. I don't see that happening with Kerry. They passed on the intern lie entirely and seem to be giving the swift boat vets crap some scrutiny.

Of course, they continue to overlook most of *'s crimes and flog Kerry for minor mistakes, but that is typical RW spin. What they did to Gore was far worse.

(network news and mainstream newspapers only here...RW radio and cable will, and do, say anything)

[BillZBubb]

16. Is the Pope Catholic?

Do bears shit in the woods?

Of course the corporate media is attacking Kerry and propping up the Chimperor. No surprise there.

[RetroLounge]

17. You think????

Duh...

RL

[tom_paine]

18. Nothing has changed for the better since 2000 on this score

If anything it has gotten worse.

There is NO Free Press in Imperial Amerika.

Just State-Coerced Pravda.

[RobinA]

19. I Noticed This

last night as I was channel surfing. I don't watch TV news at all, so I don't really know what goes on there normally, but as I was flipping through last night at about 11:15 it seemed like every other channel had a bash-Kerry show going on.

I mean, here's a guy who is a veteran, a law school graduate, a major force in a veterans movement, a prosecutor and a US Senator for many years, and he's getting picked apart for how long he was in Vietnam, what he said at the convention, what he didn't say at the convention, what somebody else said about him at the convention, how many words he said at the convention about his Senate record, whether or not he was in Cambodia 30 years ago, whether or not he's ever changed his mind, the exact body position of an enemy soldier he shot 30 years ago.... Without even getting into the issue of how the candidates' respective resumes stack up against each other, hasn't anybody heard of ISSUES anymore?

As far as the tone of the reporting, it's not just you. There's this obligatory "OK, here's us being unbiased" tone of doubt that this could really be true when something good about Kerry has to be said. Then it's a tone of relief when they can go back to the heroic and unquestionable exploits of our strong and manly warrior-leader.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

20. Duh.

Luckily for America, it's not working.