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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:43 PM
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Meep Meep
Guys we have been two steps ahead of her since Iowa. What makes you think anything is different now. Axelrod and Obama have no naive illusions to who they are dealing with. They've been fighting her since last February and they know what she is capable of and made of. Remember last week her "big win" in WV and how they handled it? She didn't see that coming now did she?

The only super delegates she is picking up are people who are add ons or that districts went for her overwhelmingly. She is losing PLEDGED Delegates let alone picking up Supers.

Remeber May 7, the day after Indiana and NC. Not that many SD two days later we got 10 in a day. Why because she opened her big mouth with divisive rhetoric. Let her talk. She always overplays her hand with her tantrums and it results in the hole getting bigger.

Honestly if the SD were interested in her case she wouldn't be out shouting it in public trying to get support for it. She'd be doing it in private on the phone or in DC.

Relax let her make a fool out of herself.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:44 PM
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1. Thanks for talking me down off the cliff. I'm going to go watch American Idol now :-)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:09 PM
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19. Graham Nash played. Some young kids I"ve no idea just ended. Who the hell are they?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:14 PM
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22. Good lord, pick up a teenybopper mag ! LOL. The Jonas Brothers.. multimillionaires
at 15.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:44 PM
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2. Yeah
:thumbsup:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:45 PM
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3. So just curious you think we can win if she goes to the convention?
The republicans will say. Let them win! And not launch a Blitz?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:46 PM
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4. No one is going to allow
Edited on Wed May-21-08 07:47 PM by Jake3463
this to go to the convention. Congress has to get re-elected too. Taking it to the convention hurts their chances as much as Obama's and they want to keep their committee assignments and state wide offices.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:47 PM
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5. You think Clinton cares?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:48 PM
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8. It doesn't matter
what she wants. The party my friend can take care of Senator Clinton.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:24 PM
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20. Do you not get it? If she appeals the decision it GOES to the convention!
And NOTHING will stop that!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:26 PM
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21. If Obama
has the delegates he controls the floor. If he wants he can say that she can't fucking speak to the convention. She can get in as a SD but she can be barred from the stage.

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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:47 PM
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6. Does this mean she just purchased...
...the ACME Goalpost Relocator?
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:48 PM
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7. She makes me sick right now. I actually can't stand this person.
I just want the supers to shut her stupid rhetoric down. She can stay in until June 3, but after that, BYE.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:49 PM
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9. No worries
I might be wrong but I expect some warning endorsements tommorow. Just like there was after IN and NC. If we don't see 10 SD by Saturday than start going nuts.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:05 PM
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17. I'm on the edge. If I don't see supers starting to move soon then


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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:07 PM
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18. This helps me
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:50 PM
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10. Exactly. SD's won't even meet with her. This is just a scare tactic.
Don't fall for it.

Thanks for the reality check.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:52 PM
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11. If she was in DC
having people to her brownstone all week I'd be worried.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:54 PM
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12. Jaaaakkkkee

:toast:


:grouphug:


:headbang:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:59 PM
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13. Yeah, point taken, but every time she or Bill attacks the party, or makes accusations of sexism or
unfairness, we are losing an opportunity to draw the party together.
And the longer we wait, the less credible the unifying will be.
It's so frustrating to see her encouraging people to feel wronged.
That being said, please enjoy my delight-filled thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6064891
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:01 PM
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15. It sucks
However I highly doubt anyone in the Obama Campaign expected her to go quietly into the night. None of the staffers I worked with in PA ever did so I'm sure the higher ups never did.

Her having tantrums right now will actually move the process along faster because no one will expect her to behave till the convention.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:00 PM
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14. Whether one relaxes or stresses
one thing remains a constant. Hillary is going to do whatever she is going to do. There is nothing I can do to change this. The more "demands" she make the less likely it is that she will obtain her desired outcome. As she is assured of finishing second, the SDs can choose to not go along with relative impunity. The point of diminishing returns in this regard was reached several weeks ago. Democrats have a tradition of awarding second place finishers very little power. A bit of humility would serve her better politically both now and in the future, but this is entirely unlikely.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:03 PM
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16. What sucks
is you make some breakthroughs with her supporters on here and she gets everyone whipped all up again on both sides.

Obama has a plan. The more she throws her tantrums the actually quicker this process goes. If she acted with Grace after IN and NC we'd probably still be tied in the SD. Her divisive rhetoric right now causes people to turn on her.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 10:35 AM
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23. KICK
:kick:
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