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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 02:59 PM
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Many more viable female candidates; not enough viable minority candidates...
Hillary supporters and women all over the world who are distraught by what appears to be a loss for her campaign, must realize the following:

There are a good number--actually quite a large number--of qualified, brilliant, up-and-coming female stars within the Democratic party, from the local, grassroots level to the highest echelons of government.

BE NOT DISMAYED, LADIES!! We will have our day!! But quite frankly, regardless of who her contenders are or were, the truth is that Hillary Rodham Clinton ran an abysmal campaign. Additionally, she went into this campaign with very high negatives. She will exit this campaign with very high negatives.

However, do not fret. There are other women like Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm (a Hillary supporter) and Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius (an Obama supporter).

There's no need to feel that no other qualified woman can take Hillary's place. I am very confident that we WILL see a woman president in our lifetime.

On the other hand, there are sadly not enough minorities who are being groomed for higher office--that includes not only blacks, but Latinos, Asians, Jewish and Muslim Americans. There is a much greater likelihood that we will have more women competing for higher posts than minority candidates.

We need to do more on both ends to encourage women and minorities to run for higher office, but they MUST BE qualified, organized, and ready to serve.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:00 PM
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1. Hint to those other female candidates: Your chances are better if....
you're not a lying, bribing, race-baiting warmonger.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:02 PM
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4. even Obama said that his staff set up the race baiting bullshit... so stop it.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:14 PM
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13. No he didn't
It's amazing how things are interpreted. I wish you all would stop it.

His office chronicled all the offensive racial things done by their opponents and surrogates. At the time they compiled this list most people had made up their own mind.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:01 PM
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2. z
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:01 PM
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3. I'm not going to get into another glass ceiling vs. historical racism argument. NT
Edited on Tue May-20-08 03:02 PM by Cant trust em
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:07 PM
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8. Is that what I was doing?
My point is that we need to run MORE QUALIFIED WOMEN AND MINORITIES. Since I am a black woman, I don't want to be forced in a position to compare race and gender tragedies, as they BOTH are! To be quite honest, if anyone was mistreated during this entire campaign, it was black women, who were constantly told to choose between race or gender. If you chose one over the other, you were either a sexist or suffered from internalized racism. So please spare me with these kinds of lectures. They are very condescending and pathetic!!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:16 PM
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16. I'm sure that your intentions are pure
but I know that the argument will come up and I'm going to nip this one in the bud.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:03 PM
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5. One small note: Jennifer Granholm is constitutionally ineligible to run for the presidency. n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:07 PM
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9. Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten about that. n/t
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sfaprog Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:04 PM
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6. You haven't heard: this was supposed to be Hillary's turn
Edited on Tue May-20-08 03:05 PM by sfaprog
Some people aren't going to have it any other way.

And don't say "stay positive" while Clinton and her surrogates are out on the campaign trail pushing lies about "popular vote" instead of honest math... and lies about sexism and Wright, designed to destroy Obama.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:06 PM
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7. Why do people overlook the American Indian? - Yes,
the INVISIBLE Native American
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:11 PM
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11. Good point.
Are there any Native Americans, that you know of, involved in state politics, and with a good chance of being nurtured and brought into national politics? That is long overdue.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:16 PM
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17. Oh yes, I write about them all the time in my blog - Native Unity
Edited on Tue May-20-08 03:18 PM by Bobbieo
Navajo's Joe Shirley Jr. for one. Kalyn Free, Choctaw from Okla, a former state's att. gen.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:09 PM
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21. Thank you!
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:14 PM
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12. In Montana,
The American Natives held signs that said:

"FIRST AMERICANS FOR OBAMA!!" I thought it was great!!

So yes, ALLLLLL Minorities should be included in that list. No one left out. Of course that wasn't my intent.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:21 PM
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18. It is true- they are the INVISIBLE Americans and we have to change that image!!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:09 PM
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10. um, youvmight consider a couple of things:
Women are over 50% of the population, and it's simply not true that there aren't enough minorities being groomed for higher office. There's a significant number of AAs in the House. Same with latinos, and Jews. There are also Asian American reps. There are 2 Latino Senators, and off the top of my head there are 8 Jewish Senators. We do need to recruit more Americans of different faiths, and I'd love to see an atheist elected, but my point, I hope, is made.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:14 PM
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14. There is one lonely atheist in the House:
Pete Stark. (At least, one self-admitted atheist. I'm sure there's really plenty more that pander to a religious base but don't really believe what they're selling.)

But an atheist president is a very far-off dream.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 03:16 PM
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15. I'm well aware of the good numbers of minorities in Congress,
Edited on Tue May-20-08 03:16 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
I guess that I was referring to the Senate, which is traditionally considered "the upper chamber," or a higher office than the House. I'd like to see more minorities and women in the Senate, more governors, lt. governors, and yes, more of them running for judicial posts...and the presidency!!
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:00 PM
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19. This is an interesting point.
There have been 35 women in the United States Senate since the establishment of that body in 1789, meaning that out of the 1,897 Americans who have served in the United States Senate since that time, 1.85 percent of all Senators have been female. Women were first elected in numbers in 1992. Today 16 of the 100 US Senators are women.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_United_States_Senate

Twenty-nine women have been or are currently serving as the governor of an American state, including two in an acting capacity. The first female governor was Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming who was elected on November 4, 1924 and sworn in on January 5, 1925. She was preceded in office by her late husband William Ross. Also elected on November 4 was Miriam A. Ferguson of Texas, but she was not sworn in until January 21, 1925. The first female governor elected without being the wife or widow of a past state governor was Ella T. Grasso of Connecticut, elected in 1974 and sworn in on January 8, 1975.

Connecticut and Arizona are the only two states to have elected female governors from both major parties. New Hampshire has also had female governors from two parties, but Republican Vesta M. Roy served only in the acting capacity for a short time. Arizona was the first state where a female followed another female as governor (they were from different parties). Arizona also has had the most female governors with a total of three.

Currently, eight women are serving as governors of U.S. states. Between December 6, 2006, when Sarah Palin was inaugurated as the first female governor of Alaska, and January 14, 2008, when Kathleen Blanco left office as governor of Louisiana, a record nine women were serving as the chief executive of their states.

The District of Columbia and the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, though not states, have also had female chief executives in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_state_governors_in_the_United_States

African Americans in the U.S. Senate:
Senator                    Party                   State                   Term
Hiram Rhodes Revels    Republican              Mississippi             1870-1871
Blanche Bruce             Republican             Mississippi             1875-1881
Edward Brooke             Republican            Massachusetts        1967-1979
Carol Moseley Braun     Democrat             Illinois                   1993-1999
Barack Obama             Democrat             Illinois                   2005-present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress

African American Governors
Douglas Wilder (D-VA) 1986-1990
Deval Patrick (D-MA) 2007-Present
David Paterson (D-NY) 2008-Present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African_American_governors

African American Presidents of the United States
Barack Obama 2009-2017 :-)

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:02 PM
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20. and they'll all meet the same fate as Hillary
pushed aside for a weaker candidate.

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