Obama Memo: 17 Pledged Delegates Away from Winning Primary

[powergirl]

Maybe victory declared next Tuesday???


"In a sign that they are likely to declare victory in the presidential primary very soon, the Obama campaign is now boasting in a memo to reporters that they are on the cusp of winning the pledged-delegate majority, thanks to the endorsement from John Edwards and a group of his delegates.

"By the Obama campaign's math, they are only 17 elected delegates away from the pledged-del majority, a number that they are guaranteed to pull off next week in Oregon and Kentucky. Expect them to court super-delegates to break their way en masse after that happens, on the basis that Obama has the popular mandate to be the nominee."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/16/obama-memo-17-pledged-del_n_102083.html


:woohoo:

[BlooInBloo]

1. Title's a bit overstated, but it's still a cool situation.

[grantcart]

3. 17 is the number so what is overstated?

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

[BlooInBloo]

6. Unless he has 2008 delegates right this second, the title's overstated.

[grantcart]

7. right I was only looking at the 17 - the rest is premature

he is 119.5 from 2025


He should get atleast 60 on Tuesday

He needs about 60 Super Delegates between now and then

Add on and Pelosi SDs account for about 15

9 more Edwards Delegates

He needs about 35 SDs to claim victory on Tuesday.

[Gore1FL]

13. The total to which the 17 speaks

is a pledged delegate majority.

[BlooInBloo]

14. Yes, I know.

[rocktivity]

5. Overstated? Since he's already clinched the superdelegate lead

once Obama gets those 17 delegates on Tuesday, Hillary is mathematically eliminated. The only way she can stop him (on a fair and square basis) is to win both KY and OR with at least 85.6% of the vote.

:headbang:
rocknation

[powergirl]

18. I know - but that is the title of the article

n/t

[mmonk]

2. Yep

It's coming.

[Bucky]

4. I wish people would get their terminology right. There is not "A" primary.

He might be 17 delegates short of winning the nomination, but a primary is when an individual state party holds a delegate election. There are dozens of primaries, but only one nomination. Votes win elections; elections win delegates; delegates win nominations. It's not complicated.

[onenote]

9. thank you. that's been bugging me too!

The process is not a "primary" -- its the nomination process. That process has various components -- primaries, caucuses, a convention, and finally, a nomination.

[powergirl]

19. My bad - the article title referred to "primaries" in the plural

I just copied it wrong and made it primary - when I speak, I refer to the "Democratic primary." Maybe it's the Texan in me that slurs my speech. :)

[Bucky]

20. I'm a Texan.

I only slur when I'm drunk. Or pissed off. Or in trouble with my momma.

[powergirl]

22. Lately, one of those three events has been prevailing for me

the pissed offedness!! Howdy! :pals:

[K Gardner]

8. Kick.. I believe its down to 16 now.

[Texas Hill Country]

10. it will be very bad if he claims the nomination before they settle MI and FL

just sayin

[mythyc]

11. you do know Obama has the lead even were FL and MI to be counted, no? by 66 delegates at that

just sayin

[Zachstar]

12. With MI and FL settled with their plan Clinton would still be Mathmatically defeated.

Obama is not picking up 17 delegates he is picking upwards of 50.

[TrogL]

15. MI and FL are settled

Count them and we'll all be in court for years.

[Texas Hill Country]

17. no, they are not settled until the credentials committee meets. they will settle it.

[Zachstar]

23. And most likely near the plans presented

Clinton netting about 10 from Mi and Maybe a few from FL.

They are NOT going to seat them as is.

[cali]

16. Why? Seriously, what would be bad about it?

It's clear that MI and FL being settled won't change anything as far as his being the nominee. And c'mon, Hillary knows it's over.

[CakeGrrl]

21. Good news. I wonder when the Pelosi Club will declare? n/t

[Zachstar]

24. Depends.

Normally I would say yes but we arent that far away from June 3 so they may wait.