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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:30 PM
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Project For The New American Century site is "suspended" - anyone know how to get to the cache file?
My fear is the site is being scrubbed.

See: www.newamericancentury.org
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:33 PM
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1. ...
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:33 PM
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2. sounds like??:
This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.

:wtf:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:35 PM
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3. Wow, that's interesting...
Have you ever used the way-back machine?

I think you can call up old Web pages--even if they've been taken down.

That site is really important. It spells out their sick plan, in detail.

There's a wealth of information on the neocon crimes--all spelled out for everyone to see.

I wonder why they took it down?

I know PNAC reorganized and has a new name. Same cast of thugs...operating under a new
banner.

Keep us posted on what you find, and I'll look around as well.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:45 PM
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8. They're Covering Up Their Tracks......
they are anticipating a major change in the way this country is run and their honeymoon is over. They are also anticipating maybe the new administration might initiate investigations and they don't want any incriminating evidence hanging around. I'm just hoping that people like Conyers copied all of the site and have it all documented should it be needed.

There is a watershed change coming to this country and its going to be good.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:58 PM
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30. No, they just haven't paid their bill
the site hasn't been changed in ages, like a couple of years or so. You can still get at it through Google's cache. No need for a conspiracy theory when there is a perfectly reasonable alternative explanation. And please don't tell me that I don't know how evil the right wing is. I was warning people about PNAC being a bunch of deranged imperialists back in 1999 and urging people to read the essays they wrote in Foreign Affairs.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:38 PM
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4. Down the memory hole...eom
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:41 PM
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5. Not this time
Too many people know about it and have long ago cached the website.

This is one bit of toothpaste they cannot put back into "the series of tubes".
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:43 PM
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7. True.
cached long ago here as well.

I suspect they think they can take it down and make it go away.

Kinda stunning nonetheless.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:43 PM
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6. try looking here
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:47 PM
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10. Seems like they have a lot of snapshots, lol.
Edited on Fri May-16-08 02:50 PM by LoZoccolo
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.newamericancentury.org

on edit: Looks like the direct URL doesn't post well on DU either, lol.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:37 PM
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24. Awesome! Grabbing what I can.
Specifically, this one: http://web.archive.org/web/20020923154604/www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

This is the infamous "Pearl Harbor" catastrophe memo (see page 63). Try to count the number of times the words "Iraq" or "Saddam Hussein" appear, then tell me they didn't have this invasion/occupation planned pre-9/11...and still they manged to cock everything up.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:45 PM
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9. the cockroaches...they don't like the light too much....
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:55 PM
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11. Ray Taliaferro of KGO San Francisco put it all on his website...
http://www.raytal.com

He was one of the first radio talkshow hosts to talk about PNAC.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:58 PM
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13. This site is down, too.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:02 PM
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14. GREAT, I figured someone had mirrored he site. n/t
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 02:57 PM
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12. They can run, but hey can't hide.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:50 PM
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27. Thanks, T G...you rock!!!
:headbang:
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:05 PM
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15. Guess PNAC realized that tide has turned in the U.S. I bet DLC is the next to...
"reorganize" their website.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:06 PM
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16. The domain hasn't expired
Domain ID:D49682011-LROR
Domain Name:NEWAMERICANCENTURY.ORG
Created On:21-Dec-2000 19:28:41 UTC
Last Updated On:26-Jul-2006 23:09:27 UTC
Expiration Date:21-Dec-2009 19:28:41 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com Inc. (R71-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:C5950342-RCOM
Registrant Name:William Kristol
Registrant Organization:William Kristol
Registrant Street1:1150 17th Street, N. W., Suite 505
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Washington
Registrant State/Province:DC
Registrant Postal Code:20036
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2022934900
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.2024636652
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:wkristol@weeklystandard.com
Admin ID:C29756037-RCOM
Admin Name:Gary Schmitt
Admin Organization:NewCitizenshipProject
Admin Street1:115017thStreet,N.W.
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Washington
Admin State/Province:DC
Admin Postal Code:20036
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2022934983
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.2022934572
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:project@newamericancentury.org
Tech ID:C29756041-RCOM
Tech Name:Gary Schmitt
Tech Organization:NewCitizenshipProject
Tech Street1:115017thStreet,N.W.
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Washington
Tech State/Province:DC
Tech Postal Code:20036
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.2022934983
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.2022934572
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:project@newamericancentury.org
Name Server:NS.CAIS.COM
Name Server:NS2.CAIS.COM
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:26 PM
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18. and McCain was once president of the New Citizenship Project
which spawned PNAC.

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=553&name=New-Citizenship-Project

If you google "McCain" and "NCP" you get hits that reference McCain's Senate bio as saying he was president of NCP. If you go to McCain's bio there is no such reference. In fact, for a guy running for president his Senate bio is sparse.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:39 PM
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20. Damn, I don't know where you got all that information at, but you are good.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:39 PM
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25. Impressive!
Especially DU's translation of : O's and : D's into emoticons.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:09 PM
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17. pnacinfo.com has a huge amount of archived stuff... link:
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:32 PM
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23. Awesome - thanks! n/t
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:39 PM
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19. I was on it yesterday getting info for a LTTE.
It wrote regarding the real reason behind the selection of the date. Sept. 11, 1992 Bush Sr. gave his NWO speech to Congress. The speech infuriated Cheney and the neo-cons.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:56 PM
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21. I have a complete copy of the site on my Linux box
I've been expecting that site to be scrubbed for a while (it's to Iraq and the Middle East what Mein Kamph was to Europe and the Jews), so I downloaded the entire site a while back. Because my router died, I don't have any way to connect that box to the net. But once I've got things running again, I'm more than happy to either post the site on my own server or e-mail anyone an archive of the site, or both.

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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:31 PM
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22. Thanks! Please PM me when you've got it ready. Cheers. n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:37 PM
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26. It's a sign that they aren't just intellectually bankrupt. n/t
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:53 PM
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28. I don't know why they would bother...
DU, pundits and other liberals screamed about this for years before and after 9/11 and the media could care less. Why would they scrub it now?
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:55 PM
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29. A good question. Maybe they smell the blood in the water?
Just spitballin'...
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:05 PM
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35. Yeah or is there something in there we missed or
dismissed as unimportant. After 9/11 most of the focus was on the whole "spreading democracy and need another "Pearl Harbor" to kick it off" thing. I'll have to dig up the document and re-read it.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:00 PM
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31. Sounds like they didn't pay the bill. Have you tried archive.org?
Edited on Fri May-16-08 09:06 PM by QC
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://newamericancentury.org

Edit--something funny happened to the link when I pasted it. You will need to copy and paste it, rather than just clicking.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:03 PM
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32. Do a Google search
Edited on Fri May-16-08 09:10 PM by Patsy Stone
for newamericancentury. When the results come up, click on the Cached link under the little synopsis.

Here's an example of what it will look like: http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:en0P4RoJjCYJ:www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm+project+for+a+new+american+century&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

This only works for a little while, until Google trolls again and finds nothing, like it does now for some of the pages, but the text is still there.

Also, some links from there here: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1535.html
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:07 PM
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36. You are Ab f*cking Fab. Thank you! n/t
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:13 PM
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38. Cheers!
To clarify, when newamericancentury comes back, click on the "more results from" link under the list of sections, and then go to the cached links from those results.

:toast:
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:16 PM
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39. Were I not married, I'd be asking you out for coffee.
Seriously, thanks.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 07:31 AM
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40. Were I not married
I'd accept. :)
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:05 PM
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34. In my filing cabinet. I printed all that shit out in 2002.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:09 PM
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37. I printed out a lot, too...but counted on the online crap to be around for awhile....
..I guess that, given the absolute failure of their plans, they might eventually decide to withdraw their game plan from the public domain.
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