Pat Buchanan: "I'm for Hllary"

[sabra]

http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2008/05/buchanan-says-obama-would-not-000571.php


Pat Buchanan says Hillary Clinton is "one of us"
Keith Boykin

I was standing in the green room of MSNBC last night talking with conservative commentator Pat Buchanan about the West Virginia primary, when he made a startling revelation. "I'm for Hllary," he said.

I assumed it was a joke, but after hearing what he said on "Hardball with Chris Matthews" a few minutes later, I'm not so sure. When defending the racial sentiments expressed by whites in West Virginia, Buchanan indicated there was nothing wrong with white voters deciding to support Clinton because she is "one of us."

[Waya]

1. One of us......

... as in: one of us White people? One of us Repub shills? Either way - I wouldn't take that as much of compliment if I were Hillary.

[Lerkfish]

2. scary

I don't think that is an endorsement she is courting nor needs, but disturbing nonetheless.

[lisa58]

3. He also said he wouldn't vote for either...

...Hillary or Obama in the general - he was just pulling for Hillary - he thinks she can pull off the nomination.

[Texas Hill Country]

14. he actually said, he roots for the underdog.

[sabra]

so you are defending Buchanan's assessments?

[housewolf]

30. "Rooting" and "Voting for" are 2 completely different things

He very specifically said that he would not be voting for either Obama or Hillary. By "us" he meant "white people."

Pat Buchanan loves the political theater. He's been excited for months now about all that's gone on in the primary races. He loves the sport of it, loves to see folks who have been knocked down get up again and keep on going. He can admire that and enjoy it (and the Dem candidates), but he will still remain true to his Republican roots. Don't expect anything different from him.

[redqueen]

4. There's the clue-phone again... (nt)

[crimsonblue]

33. I bet he's got a raging clue....

[NJmaverick]

5. Obama has Edwards and Hillary has Buchanan

[Occam Bandage]

6. After the campaign she's been running, I'm not shocked Boocannun likes her

[Cha]

19. hilary's so damn White..

[PoliticalAmazon]

27. Pat became Hillary's bitch when she started bigot-pandering....

...but there were signs before that of his support for Hillary.

[WA98296]

7. Of course he is, he wants the drama to continue. She's always been the GOP pick

[leftynyc]

43. Now Sen Obama is their pick

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/07/limbaugh.obama/index.html

They root for whoever thinks is most likely to lose so those who take this shit endorsement seriously are delusional.

[CountAllVotes]

8. gee no kidding!

I saw him last night along with Andrea Mitchell. I couldn't tell which of them had the most froth dripping out of their mouths! :rofl:

:kick:

[book_worm]

9. Hillary is getting all kinds of right wing supporters these days

[harun]

60. I think they would rather have her as their nominee than McCain (n/t)

[JVS]

10. This is the type of supporter you get when you pander to the "hard-working"

If you know what I mean by "hard-working"

[casus belli]

11. Will she reject AND denounce the endorsement? n/t

[JVS]

20. I demand she reject and denounce!

[Texas Hill Country]

12. he also said that there was nothing wrong with AA's supporting Obama b/c he is "one of them"... its

called Identity politics people...

people from the south tend to vote for southerners, latinos tend to vote latino, AA's tend to vote for AA's, working class tend to vote for working class, etc etc etc


IDENTITY POLITICS is as old as the hills.


Pat has said some inane shit on race, but if you are gonna make accusations, at least be accurate about it.

[FrenchieCat]

21. The only identity politics centered on race is wrong, and encouraging this

is more wrong.....just because it is old, doesn't make it the right thing. That's like saying that murder has been around forever, so why not?

Justifying identity politics is exactly something that one would want to discourage. That's why, until Hillary felt otherwise, Democrats have encourage that folks vote their financial interest and not this value/culture shit.

Hillary Clinton has done much to take us back in time and has made racial divisions cool again. For that, I'll never forgive her.

[Doityourself]

37. Pat's rabid 'cuz a black man may actually become president of the US..lol..God save us!

[leftynyc]

44. His is one of the first heads I

want to see explode when they have to utter the words President Obama.

[Doityourself]

46. Hope it's on TV when it happens!

[leftynyc]

49. While I usually pass directly

over fox news, election night just might be a change for me. Other heads I'll be looking for: Brit Hume, Karl Rove, Fred Barnes - it was fun election night 2006, it'll be fun in November.

[Doityourself]

51. Don't forget Hannity, O'Reilly and Steve Deucy...I gotta ad Juan Williams too! 2006 was fun!

[leftynyc]

53. Oh - I hadn't forgotten

I just don't think those guys to election night coverage but I could be wrong about that.

[Doityourself]

36. Not always the case. AA's to my knowledge don't vote for AA's..just 'cuz they are AA's ..at least

not in my district/state. Plenty have run and lost against white politicians. Just my experience of course...and working class don't necessarily vote for working class either, plenty of rich politicians from my neck of the woods.

[Texas Hill Country]

42. of course, and what i mean is that they tend to vote for people that connect with them...

and that is done in a variety of different ways.


And most often, in heavily african american districts, the city council members, state reps, mayors, us reps, etc... are usually african american.... much like along the border in texas, most of the city government officials, and US reps are hispanic, and so on and so forth... that happens because of identity politics. It is not racism, people vote for a representation of themselves or an idealized version of themselves... someone they identify with... a connection between voter and candidate.

this is a well documented, studied and understood phenomenon.

[Doityourself]

48. As I said not in my district, but maybe we are unique.. which is a good thing..though I will agree

local politics are different from national politics..for various reasons.

[Eric Condon]

54. So, in the name of "identity politics," you're defending racism.

You know as well as I do that a lot of white working class voters are NOT "tending to vote working class" when they vote for Zellary. But because it's "identity politics," you think that's okay?

Oh, wait - of course you do. You're a Clinton supporter. If racism benefits your candidate, you'll defend it to the death.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Pat Buchanan editorial: Right before WV - "IN DEFENSE OF HILLARY'

This was the night before West Virginia, main page of the World Nut Daily,
goes on and explains that his type of racism is not racism, and Hillary's is
not racism either..... Think about it....... Right before the primary, a major
editorial.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64150

[nomaco-10]

15. It is a joke.....

He has said a thousand times he wouldn't vote for either one them (clinton obama). He said he's for clinton because he does not want this primary to end. The old fart wants to be politically relevant on msnbc as long as they will let him sit in on morning joe and hardball. He loves it.

[Chiyo-chichi]

16. this is no startling revelation

Just turn on Morning Joe or Hardball on any given day & you'll see Patty-Patty-Buke-Buke defending Hillary AND the "racial sentiments expressed by whites in West Virginia."

[Cha]

17. Who gives a shit, racist pig?

Really? Who gives a fuck but other racists? With endorsements like these who needs saboteurs?

[Buzz Clik]

18. Gee, Pat, knock me over with a feather. That's a total suprise.

:sarcasm:

Buchanan went insane all over Tweety last night immediately after the Edwards endorsement. Buchanan knows that Hillary's campaign is finally dead, and the Republicans have no chance to win the White House.

Bummer.

[Saturday]

22. Please explain to me why it is OK for 90% of Black's to vote for

BO because he is Black but Whites voting for Whites is racist. And I don't accept the argument that all 90% of Blacks think he is the best candidate.

[sabra]

23. Clinton had the African American vote in the earlier primaries - so something swayed the opinion...

[Zynx]

50. She never won the black vote in a single state. Not even close.

[sabra]

62. correct - I meant polling earlier on the process showed her with better numbers

[TahitiNut]

28. Pat? Is that you?

:wow:

[yodermon]

31. Very simple. Black people have been voting for white candidates

for decades. You won't hear them say "I'll never vote for a white person". The very idea is ludicrous.

[kmsarvis]

38. That is almost exactly what Buchanan said yesterday.

[Youphemism]

24. He just means not "You People"

Ross Perot broke it down nicely in the 90s while talking to the NAACP. Pat Buchanan is just distilling that point a little further. Everybody but "you people" is "one of us."

I assume we'll eventually be provided with better distinctions to help clarify more complex racial differences -- for example, minorities who are "among us" but can sometimes be considered "those people."

[skooooo]

25. that says it all, imo

[PoliticalAmazon]

26. DOH. Pat has been a Hillary supporter for months.....

I cant understand why this is a big revelation to the author of the op-ed piece.

I also can't understand how Hillary supporters can feel comfortabe with Pat Buchanan's loyal support for Hillary.

[leftynyc]

45. Loyal support???!!!

Did he say he would vote for her or is he, like every other right wing gasbag, just hoping this primary lasts till the convention? I never expected smart dems to fall for this bullshit but this thread is quite the eye opener.

[PoliticalAmazon]

58. He has continually advocated for her and her campaign, and against Obama....

I didn't say he "endorsed her with his vote" but hat he supported her.

[leftynyc]

63. His "support" is due to the fact

that he felt she'd be easier to beat until recently.

[Vinca]

29. That's a seriously offensive remark.

Why is Pat on MSNBC 24/7 opining on Democratic races?

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[jazzjunkysue]

34. When Pat says "she's one of us," ask yourself: Do you also want to count yourself

in that same category?


If at this point you still think Hillary Clinton cares about her country or her party or her supporters, will the sinister words of Pat Buchanan finally get through to you?

If not, you're either uninformed, or you're irrational.

My money says she'll keep his endorsement. She'll take whatever her pathetic ego needs. She's a GOP shill, just like Lieberman.

Don't believe me: Believe Pat Buchanan.

[Barack_America]

35. Shouldn't that mean an immediate disqualification for a Democratic candidate?

:shrug:

[Beregond2]

39. She must be so proud.

[keep_it_real]

40. She is "one of us" Buchanan meant she is white like us

[Spazito]

41. Despicable racist who's ass should be kicked off MSNBC n/t

[TheDonkey]

47. Obama should demand that Hillary denounce Buchanan's endorsement.

[rateyes]

52. "One of us" what?

Barack Obama is one of us "human beings."

How are you and Hillary and the West Virginians who voted for Hillary because she is "one of us," different from Obama?

What group are you and Hillary both a part of that Obama is not?

Anybody here have an answer to that question?

[Raine]

55. "One of us" = white

as far as he's concerned. x(

[rateyes]

61. I got news for Pat, then...

Obama is "one of us."

What a putrid piece of outhouse shit Pat Buchanan is!!

[Clear Blue Sky]

56. Didn't Ann Coulter say she would vote for Hillary over McCain?

[AtomicKitten]

57. "One of us." Freaks, circa 1932

[lastliberalintexas]

59. Oh bullshit

Buchanan will be beating the drums for McCain soon enough. Anyone who believes otherwise needs to buy a political education.