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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:26 PM
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You tell us, WHY do "hard working whites" favor Hillary???
Please tell us what difference between them tells us WHY "hard working whites" favor Hillary?

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:30 PM
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1. Because they wouldnt vote for Jesse Jackson in 88
Racism is a deeply ingrained attribute, and many Hillary supporters have been played for fools by the Clintons from SC onward.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:30 PM
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2. Hard workin' folks need a beer after workin' so hard. NT
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:45 PM
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11. and a shot. don't forget the shot.
Hard workin' folks love they boilermakers.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:50 PM
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16. A shot of top shelf whiskey.
If she really wanted to impress she should have tossed back some Thunderbird.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:35 PM
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3. I Think "Hard Working" Was A Code Word nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:45 PM
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13. It's mostly white people who work
and the only ones who work hard.
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superxero044 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:49 PM
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15. I didn't approve of the way she said it
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:37 PM
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4. They don't actually... just misinformed MSM shorthand for Appalachian voters
This is not true in Wisconsin, Iowa and out west where Obama wins the majority
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:45 PM
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10. yep. saying ignorant rednecks who dropped out of school in 11th grade
is so...so...so... crass

of course she COULD have been focusing on WHY there are no more good jobs that would pay enough for "low-education" people to HAVE a GOOD LIFE..and not have to struggle so hard
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:38 PM
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5. You first, why do eggheads and African Americans favor Barack? nt
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:42 PM
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7. the Obama camp is not going out dividing people by race or income
That would be the Hillary camp.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:54 PM
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19. Ask Paul Begala ... those are his words.
:puke:
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:11 PM
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25. The Hillary camp said both of those racist comments.
So wouldn't it be up to Hillary's side to explain them?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:38 PM
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6. Beats me, I'm just glad there aren't many of them.
:rofl:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:44 PM
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8. Only us lazy white trash and ornery nigras support Obama!
(and ivory tower elitists with white guilt)

We want him elected to give us more of the welfare!!!!


I wish I was joking but this is the "dog whistle" theme of the Clinton gutter campaign.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:45 PM
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12. That's "lazy latte drinkin" white trash to you! nt
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:47 PM
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14. Which would really be "jittery insomniac white trash" if you really got down to it.
n/t.
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marcus3xw Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:44 PM
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9. same reason why black voters support obama at 90%
.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:06 PM
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22. Please tell me more...
You have me curious with your comments

"This is ridiculous i am black and i see nothing wrong with hillary citing a fact that is repeated after caucases and primaries.

the media has done a wonderful job of making a lot of noise over nothing"

"obama is getting 90% black support because he is black the black voting block aren't supporting obama because he pledged to support issues they want addressed"
Oh really? You know this how?

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:51 PM
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17. "Hard working whites" is code for Reagan Democrats who responded to his continuation of Nixon's
race-baiting "Southern Strategy"--and from which the Republicans have benefitted ever since.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:07 PM
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23. That's right. Those "Reagan Democrats".
Dixiecrats made respectable.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:40 PM
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29. Here's a photo for you--the Reagans with Strom Thurmond.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:18 PM
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30. And the corporate media uses the term "Reagan Democrats"
without blinking.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:52 PM
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18. For One Thing, Hillary Has Made It a Campaign Promise to IMMEDIATELY Start Bringing the Troops Home
Edited on Fri May-09-08 03:53 PM by Crisco
From Iraq.

What demo do you reckon makes up the bulk of GIs these days?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:40 PM
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28. And she is soooo 'honest'...
Is she only going to bring home the hard working blue collar white soldiers, or will she bring the black one's home as well?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:18 AM
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34. So why did she lose so badly among a similar demographic
here in Vermont? Even whiter than WV. Lots of poor white rural people. Highest per capita death rate from the Iraq War in the country.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:04 PM
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20. B I L L C L I N T O N
It is the brand ...

These voter's have seen nothing other than republican presidency's their entire life, except for Carter and Clinton ... They saw the country stagnate under Reagan/Bush I, thrive under Clinton and regress horribly under Bush II ... And, you cannot understate the impact of this country being on the backend of the Disaster in Chief's reign ...

These people look back, they see that the best times for this country were under BILl ... They know they have just gone though a heck of a bad stretch, and are simply referencing back to the 90s ...

Really, would she suddenly be the champion of the white middle class if her name was just Hillary Rhodam ???
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:05 PM
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21. The Truth That Shall Not Be Named.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:19 PM
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31. You're probably right, too (nm)
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:09 PM
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24. Just another example of Politicians making americans out to be idiots

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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:23 PM
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26. The Clintons were NEVER for the hard working,
be they poor, black or white. "The people never have been interesting to the Clintons, not in organized, confident form. They have been interesting as election props and poll numbers, and interesting as victims, atomized, whose pain could be felt, causes championed, and misery exploited. They are interesting to Bill on rope lines, as exemplars of popular adulation and individuals to be charmed or lectured. Hillary used to hate the rope lines, hate being touched, and in the 1992 campaign she used to make sure that big men were around her to keep the plebs at bay. That changed as her ambition grew and she discovered Purell instant hand santizer. Having purelled universal health care as a live issue for a generation, she's back at it, just where she wants to be, as an answer to a murmured prayer, among a populace mobilized for nothing but elections.

Bill Clinton bribed and buttered up every member of Congress he could to pass NAFTA in 1993. The unions made speeches and phone calls and rallied here and there, but it wasn't much of a fight. And it wasn't the only issue that labor failed to make into an energetic public case. Even as unions were being crushed by employer intimidation during representation campaigns, they didn't fight en masse for labor law reform while Clinton had a Democratic Congress, and they didn't fight, after the long night of Reaganism, for a seachange in government priorities, for an industrial policy, for reinvestment to end the bleeding of their jobs and their communities and the class. Organized labor vowed to throw out the bums who had passed NAFTA, but ended up backing most of them for re-election in 1994, and did nothing to organize globally with other losers in the aggressively pro-capital regimen of neoliberal capitalism.

Organized feminists didn't fight when Clinton continued Reagan's war on "welfare queens" in more polite language. They didn't fight as women were made peon labor, displacing unionized public workers, or as they were made a captive labor force for multinationals like Tyson's chicken. Or as they were threatened with eviction from public housing. Or as they were forced into more peon labor in exchange for that public housing.

Predatory lending increased, and there was no fight. Household indebtedness increased, and there was no fight. Deregulation marched on, leading the way for the current foreclosure crisis among other things, and there was no fight. Hillary Clinton's closest foreign policy adviser now, Madeleine Albright, said the death of half a million children because of sanctions on Iraq was "worth it", and there was no fight. The drug war escalated on American city streets and in Colombia with the bribing and arming of government-linked paramilitaries, and there was no fight. Bill Clinton wrote anti-gay discrimination into law in the Defense of Marriage Act and there was no fight. While he had a Democratic Congress and squandered an opportunity for banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in civilian life, he won cheers from gays and their bloc vote at the ballot box for fighting for their equal opportunity to be paid killers and cannon fodder."

These suave' Clintons are the biggest part of the reason we (U.S. citizens) are where we are today (broke and enslaved)!
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:14 AM
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33. You nailed it, Pup.
n/t.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:38 PM
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27. It's "Hard Working 'Blue Collar' Whites"
without college educations. I happen to fit into the category but I voted for Obama, so I can't help you out. Although...I did once have a latte.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:19 PM
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32. The Clinton brand. Nothing wrong with that. Doesn't mean they are racist.
Shame on Hillary for falsely accusing her supporters of racism.
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