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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:45 PM
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Poll question: Simple question for you all
Do you believe the Dems can win the WH without Michigan OR Florida?
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:47 PM
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1. It's ours to win, pal.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:50 PM
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2. Yes, We Can......but we won't have to.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:51 PM
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3. why, are they going to hold their GE ahead of the rest of the states?
how does your question make any sense?
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:53 PM
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4. I said no, but we will win Michigan...no doubts!!!
Edited on Fri May-09-08 01:01 PM by tokenlib
Michigan is in a recession--too many people have lost jobs or are underemployed. McCain is not going to win this state.

Barack Obama will run up huge numbers downstate...

When Barack comes to Michigan it will be like an earthquake hit!!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 12:56 PM
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5. Yes! I think we will win with 30 states, and won't have to have either of them.
Florida is a Republican state for the presidency. With its Cubans, elderly, and rednecks, it's got a natural lean to the R side for the presidency.

Michigan would be nuts to go R, but if they go, so be it. Their problem, their unemployment.

We win with them or without them.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:10 PM
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6. How much do individual primaries count for on Nov 4?
Nothing.

Why try to conflate one with the other, then?

Because Hillary has no other argument.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:16 PM
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7. I believe we have to PLAN on winning without Florida
Not because of this DLC created primary clusterfuck, but because the election fraud systems set up by the Bush Crime Family are still very much in place.

And in a state where Bill Nelson and Debbie Wasserman Shit For Brains are considered "Democrats", I wouldn't expect that to change anytime soon, unfortunately.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:23 PM
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8. WHAT! WHAT! WHAT!.........
You mean dems from michigan and florida can't vote in the GE if hillary is not on the ballot? Holy hell, why didn't anybody tell us this? Oh, wait, is this what hillary, wolfie and terry mccauliff have been trying to tell us all this time. I am so stupid, grrrrr......
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 01:35 PM
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9. Let me explain
I am asking the question because I am stunned at how many (supposed) Democrats we have here that seem to have no problem telling the elected delegates "tough shit" and not seating them in Denver.

Yes, here in Michigan our "leaders" screwed up big time, no doubt to give their girl Hillary some kind of edge. That is no reason to disenfranchise the rank and file Dems of the state. Turn away the supers, who cares?? But don't punish we little people!

And to you dumb asses who ASS-U-ME wrongly, I am an Obama supporter.

Julie
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