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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:49 PM
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You Won't Believe Who's Being Swiftboated
Edited on Thu May-08-08 01:51 PM by Symarip
I was outside in my car listening to Sirius Indie and they had the guy who runs this organization on. Apparently, this guy was balls deep in the swiftboating of John Kerry. Yes, he's a crazy nutball conservative but if this shit catches on, this might change the dynamic of the race drastically. They've got money and a big head start because they've been after McCain since 2000. Expect to start seeing ads soon.

Crazy.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:51 PM
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1. There is a God!
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:52 PM
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2. what, they're going to swift boat Obama AND McSame??
hard to believe, that....
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:53 PM
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3. But they might cancel each other out
Vets for Kerry didn't emerge until it was way too late. This time, it might be much much different.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:54 PM
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4. 8-o
Un-be-fucking-lievable!

Who is behind this?!
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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:56 PM
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7. You should have heard this guy
He is not fucking around. He hates Kerry, McCain, and a whole lot more. In the short time I was in my car, he debunked the '5 years in a tiger box' meme. This dude is out for blood. He said he despises McCain far greater than Kerry.

Seriously, I think latte drinking assholes like us might be McCain's last thing to worry about.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:59 PM
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8. Big Difference
McCain never spoke out against the war except when reading statements. Kerry had a history with the medal throwing and what not.

Questioning McCain's service only gives him an opening to talk about it.

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Symarip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:00 PM
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9. Trust me, I'm not particularly giddy over this
I'm more shocked than anything.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:05 PM
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10. My dad was a Vietnam Vet
and he hated both Kerry and McCain for using their service in the war in politics so I understand where they are coming for him

On the otherside my bestfriend's dad is a vietnam vet who is supporting McCain for that reason and supported Kerry for that reason.

McCain hugged my mom when she told him she was an army nurse there....its complex and I hate when we refight this war every 4 years.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:54 PM
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5. This could backfire
I'd prefer if we kept Vietnam out of the conversation.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:07 PM
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11. It's not an Obama thing...
been registered since 2005.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:10 PM
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13. Doesn't matter
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:29 PM
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16. The failed occupation of Nam is as relevant as the current failed one in Iraq
The bastards that send them over there don't give a rats ass about the soldiers or country they are occupy. They only care for retribution to those who don't tow the line of the multinational corporation agenda.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 01:55 PM
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6. Now that Ive seen this, Cindy McCain looks like a Russian spy! nt
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:09 PM
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12. wow, that is friggin crazy
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:13 PM
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14. No more crazy than what the swiftboat assholes did to Kerry.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:14 PM
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15. There were two sets of vets against Kerry
The Sampley group are the ones Kerry has dealt with for years and yes, they went against McCain too.

The second group, the Swift Boat Veterans, are the ones that attacked his service and the validity of the medals. That part came pretty much out of nowhere. I don't think JK had ever had his actual service questioned before. Obviously he didn't think anybody would believe you could get medals if you hadn't earned them. Who would think Americans would believe such insanity?

But this Sampley group are just a bunch of kooks and I wish they would be banned from this site.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:39 PM
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17. If memory serves me, these stories were out when McCain ran in '04 ..>
Veterans against McCain group, I believe, and probably others. All sorts of claims that he was never a POW and stupid stuff.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:41 PM
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18. K & R
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:53 PM
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19. OMG! That video of him with Ms. Alfond was atrocious.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 02:54 PM by VenusRising
:grr::grr::grr:

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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:54 PM
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20. hmm seems kinda sick but I guess thats politics.
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